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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 30 @ 2:21 PM ET
**** = denotes where Stevie Y hangs up/LOLZes
- BerglundsGrundle

TB two biggest weaknesses are D and Goaltending but you know better .Take a hike .Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Apr 30 @ 2:22 PM ET
We were all waiting for the reasoning behind trading Cody... now he comes out with a taste of news and you guys jump all over him for being honest.

I applaud him for ripping the kid, the NHL doesn't need rookies telling GMs and coaches what to do, especially when it's done by the kid's father.

- Scooby_Doo


Exactly. How do you think Kesler feels busting his ass for six years before getting a sniff on the second line. You work for what you get.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Apr 30 @ 2:24 PM ET
I have to agree with the Doc ,Gillis did not handle it well .He should have just kept quiet. We are seeing MG is not superman but all in all a damn fine GM.
- VANTEL


Ya he's not the super GM everyone thought but he's better than 25 other ones and I disagree. Gillis was right to say what he said. The entire city was a bunch babies thinking Cody would have been an impact player in the playoffs, when he wasn't one in the regular season. He would have been DOMINATED in the playoffs. Gillis was just telling the cattle how it was. He doesn't do it enough.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 30 @ 2:28 PM ET
Ya he's not the super GM everyone thought but he's better than 25 other ones and I disagree. Gillis was right to say what he said. The entire city was a bunch babies thinking Cody would have been an impact player in the playoffs, when he wasn't one in the regular season. He would have been DOMINATED in the playoffs. Gillis was just telling the cattle how it was. He doesn't do it enough.
- Boinker



Nor should he.If everyone knows his business then we will know his weaknesses too,same as not revealing an injury of a player. Our business in the finished product on the ice.What is happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 30 @ 2:34 PM ET
10 years @ 5.3 cap hit.
Yep, his value is super high ian.

Mattjd123
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 10.01.2009

Apr 30 @ 2:37 PM ET
Luongo makes 5.3
Youll need to resign Schneider...dosnt exactly give a ton of extra cap space if you move him for nothing. Plus, consider that whatever you trade Luongo for, there will be cap coming back.

- noename09


Thanks, Gary.

Mattjd123
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 10.01.2009

Apr 30 @ 2:39 PM ET
10 years @ 5.3 cap hit.
Yep his value is super high ian.


- hugefemale dog77


Win for 3-4 years, pass the buck to the next GM.

Exactly what will happen.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 30 @ 2:41 PM ET
Hey JJ... Burrows on the top line with Benn and Perry.

Not bad for a hair pulling biter.

- Scooby_Doo


One step closer to the Olympic team. A good showing in this tournament will get him an invite at least.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 30 @ 2:42 PM ET
10 years @ 5.3 cap hit.
Yep his value is super high ian.


- hugefemale dog77


Next year Messier will be the new GM ,Prez of NYR leaving Sather to go back to EDM .We all know how Sather likes to overspend for players.Lu in the orange and blue Oil uniform next year .Book it.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Apr 30 @ 2:45 PM ET
10 years @ 5.3 cap hit.
Yep his value is super high ian.


- hugefemale dog77


The people who keep beating this drum are clueless - I'm glad you let the media do your thinking for you.....

Lu is the best goalie on the market should gillis even try to trade him. He's a known commodity and don't let the 10 years fool you - cap circumvention - he'll retire in 5 years with a moderate cap hit of $5.3 mill which in 2 years will seem like peanuts. He won't fetch an elite package but he will get a return that will help Vancouver...
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 30 @ 2:49 PM ET
Win for 3-4 years, pass the buck to the next GM.

Exactly what will happen.

- Mattjd123


Thats a possibility for sure.
Hes not completely untradeable.
Just dont expect anything of real value in return.

Dumping the contract IS the value
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 30 @ 2:49 PM ET
I have to agree with the Doc ,Gillis did not handle it well .He should have just kept quiet. We are seeing MG is not superman but all in all a damn fine GM.
- VANTEL


Wait and see.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 30 @ 2:51 PM ET

With Horcoff @5.5 for 4 more years and Hemskey stupid contract at 5 mil
10 years @ 5.3 cap hit for Lu is a bargain.
Yep, his value is super high ian.


- hugefemale dog77



Fixed.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 30 @ 2:52 PM ET
Please. Leino's contract can't be judged after one year.

Dipietro, Yashin.

'Nuff said.

Edit: I don't think Yashin was Snow's handy work but he's still paying him.

- Pairo11


The Canucks just finished paying Messier two years ago. Messier wants to sue for more...
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 30 @ 2:54 PM ET
The people who keep beating this drum are clueless - I'm glad you let the media do your thinking for you.....

Lu is the best goalie on the market should gillis even try to trade him. He's a known commodity and don't let the 10 years fool you - cap circumvention - he'll retire in 5 years with a moderate cap hit of $5.3 mill which in 2 years will seem like peanuts. He won't fetch an elite package but he will get a return that will help Vancouver...

- chompsey


Yeah, the return will be dumping that abortion like contract.
And yes, that will help vancouver.


Mattjd123
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 10.01.2009

Apr 30 @ 2:57 PM ET
Yeah, the return will be dumping that abortion like contract.
And yes, that will help vancouver.

- hugefemale dog77


That doesn't even make sense.

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 30 @ 2:57 PM ET
For what? Trading your precious Cody? Kassian will be a more impact-full player. Offensive player's who can only play in the other teams zone are easy to find. Players that weigh 230 lbs, that can skate better than the aforementioned Hodgson, are not easy to find. He was in his rookie season last year, and at times could physically fend off big 30 year old defenseman. Wait until this kid develops and gets comfortable.
- Boinker


You obviously didnt read the story today. It wasnt about trading im...it was about all the crap Gillis has been spewing.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 30 @ 2:59 PM ET
Fixed.
- VANTEL


And no one would trade for horcoff....
Maybe hemsky as its only 2 years.

So u agree then?! These retarded contracts are like anchors.
Your little homer, mad cause the truth hurts, post change, did more to validate my opinion than anything else brah.




BerglundsGrundle
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.12.2009

Apr 30 @ 2:59 PM ET
TB two biggest weaknesses are D and Goaltending but you know better .Take a hike .Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
- VANTEL


Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Apr 30 @ 2:59 PM ET
Thats a possibility for sure.
Hes not completely untradeable.
Just dont expect anything of real value in return.

Dumping the contract IS the value

- hugefemale dog77


You're wrong about that one. Luongo has a lot of value. When was the last time a goalie of Luongo caliber was traded?
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Apr 30 @ 3:02 PM ET
You obviously didnt read the story today. It wasnt about trading im...it was about all the crap Gillis has been spewing.
- boonerbuck


All the crap? He said one thing. Cody was high maintenance and didn't wanna be here. ooooooooooo sooo bad. Gillis should be fined for that. After all of Burke's done here I figured something like that would be nothing to our ears. I guess not. Gillis had to say it because of the pressure he's been under, so in short its because of you, yes you Booner, that gillis said that. If you weren't such a whiny b*itch, like most Canucks fans, he wouldn't have had to say it.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 30 @ 3:02 PM ET
You're wrong about that one. Luongo has a lot of value. When was the last time a goalie of Luongo caliber was traded?
- Boinker


One that had a cap hit of over 5 mil for ten years??
Id say probably never...,
Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri
Joined: 04.01.2011

Apr 30 @ 3:03 PM ET
Anyone got this beauty?




And my point is if their goal is to win the cup in the next 2 years then moving Schneider would accomplish this better, then moving Luongo.

Moving Luongo brings in extra bodies they may not exactly want/need. It may bring in extra salary that will work against them immediately.

Moving Schneider will fetch better asset(s) and help them immediately. They move their "supposed role players" and bring in better ones, and work on playing hockey, not soccer. The team is immediately better.

The team needs to improve in : grit, leadership, character.

Not goaltending.
- noename09

Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Apr 30 @ 3:04 PM ET
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- hugefemale dog77


Ya 6 years at 5.3 is so bad for an elite goalie. It's so unwatned that it'd get the Leafs and Blue Jackets into the playoffs next year. I guess teams don't wanna make the playoffs?
Mattjd123
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 10.01.2009

Apr 30 @ 3:04 PM ET
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- hugefemale dog77


I think you're using the wrong word.

Please stop.
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