So Luongo is better than Price and Price is worth Sharp or Kane, but Lu has negative worth in trade, to the buyout cost of Gomez? Dude, you're even way more out there than usual.

Besides, with the buyout cost of Gomez, Schneider would end up costing more than Luongo. If Gomez was the only offer, I'd keep Lu and trade Schneider. But this is a stupid debate to begin with.
- micah555

Yes, Lu has negative worth in a trade because of his contract and age.

On a different note, I'm surprised you didn't ban me again. I was actually a little pissed off that you banned me for absolutely nothing, so an apology would be nice? I'll check back occasionally for the apology.

As most Canuck fans know I am not a Lu fan .I will give credit where credit is due. Everyone rags on Lu about being a basket case.

Ten months ago Lu battled against goalies such as Crawford ,Rinne ,Niemi,and Thomas. Out of all of those elite Goalies there was only one that bettered him .Tim Thomas.

Two years ago there was a thing called the Olympics and the champs were a team called Canada.The goalie that Canada had chosen as their best was a guy named Luongo.

When Luongo first arrived in Vancouver he took a rather bad team and led them to the playoffs.

I see mostly fans in here from two teams Toronto and Edmonton. One team has finished 29 ,30, 30 th in the last three years and the other has not been in the playoffs in 9 years.The fact that both cities are in here screaming rip off, for a trade that has yet to be determined, about a top 15 goaltender ,at a cap hit of 5.3 mil explains lots. I think mercifully he will end up on neither team ,and be subjuected to the hockey hell for the next six years.

I think a smarter more educated team like Detroit may step up and understand that they are dealing with a 6 year contract for a pretty good goalie with a decent cap hit..SJ is another team that may jump in and have a decent offer to come back.TB and CBJ are definte possibilities also.

To the rest enjoy missing the playoffs AGAIN
- VANTEL

Yea Detroit is going to realize that Luongo is what they need...... A high priced back up to Jimmy Howard. As if their roster is not the oldest in NHL history already, and Van will get what? Datsyuk, Franzen and a 1st right??? You think you are gonna get Victor Hedman and Brett Connolly for Lu and Edler?? Guys who literally are getting pushed out the door? OMG delusion at it's finest. By everyones own admission, Luongo is only good until April? Yet you seem to think that he is worth top6/prospect and picks? Why because he is the 2nd best goalie on your team? Because he was benched in the middle of the playoffs?? Because he has a ridiculous contract?? I dont think Luongo is a bad goalie, he obviously is not, but this trade is a salary dump, thats it. There will be 1 or 2 teams trying to aquire him, it wont be a bidding war. Not too many teams want a 33 y.o goalie who only plays well until April on their books until he is 40. They just dont.

Yea Detroit is going to realize that Luongo is what they need...... A high priced back up to Jimmy Howard. As if their roster is not the oldest in NHL history already, and Van will get what? Datsyuk, Franzen and a 1st right??? You think you are gonna get Victor Hedman and Brett Connolly for Lu and Edler?? Guys who literally are getting pushed out the door? OMG delusion at it's finest. By everyones own admission, Luongo is only good until April? Yet you seem to think that he is worth top6/prospect and picks? Why because he is the 2nd best goalie on your team? Because he was benched in the middle of the playoffs?? Because he has a ridiculous contract?? I dont think Luongo is a bad goalie, he obviously is not, but this trade is a salary dump, thats it. There will be 1 or 2 teams trying to aquire him, it wont be a bidding war. Not too many teams want a 33 y.o goalie who only plays well until April on their books until he is 40. They just dont.
- sbroads24

Fans who think Sulzer is a top 4 D should not be coming in here and calling others delusional.

Paying Ehrhoff 10 years of four million is fine for his weak ass D but Lu is not worth 5.3 . You are building one of the softest teams in the league to play against and we won't even touch your top priced players .Look up delussional in the dictionary you will see a Sabre fan in line waiting for playoff tickets,

Yea Detroit is going to realize that Luongo is what they need...... A high priced back up to Jimmy Howard. As if their roster is not the oldest in NHL history already, and Van will get what? Datsyuk, Franzen and a 1st right??? You think you are gonna get Victor Hedman and Brett Connolly for Lu and Edler?? Guys who literally are getting pushed out the door? OMG delusion at it's finest. By everyones own admission, Luongo is only good until April? Yet you seem to think that he is worth top6/prospect and picks? Why because he is the 2nd best goalie on your team? Because he was benched in the middle of the playoffs?? Because he has a ridiculous contract?? I dont think Luongo is a bad goalie, he obviously is not, but this trade is a salary dump, thats it. There will be 1 or 2 teams trying to aquire him, it wont be a bidding war. Not too many teams want a 33 y.o goalie who only plays well until April on their books until he is 40. They just dont.
- sbroads24

He's an upgrade for a lot of teams, and he sells tickets, which on a team in Southeast like TB or FLA, can't be discounted. A couple of teams are also looking to weedle a new arena from their respective city/county/state/province and so getting Lu who will get you at the very least, to the playoffs on his own would be very attractive. It will take a package of at least a top 9 forward/top 4 D or else a combo of midlevel prospects and a 1st round pick.

Fans who think Sulzer is a top 4 D should not be coming in here and calling others dillusional.
- VANTEL

I dont. Whats Dillusional?? Some kind of Pickle? Delusional is winning one more playoff game than the Leafs and ending your posts with " Have fun Missing the Playoffs again" As if your season did not end any more dissapointing

I dont. Whats Dillusional?? Some kind of Pickle? Delusional is winning one more playoff game than the Leafs and ending your posts with " Have fun Missing the Playoffs again" As if your season did not end any more dissapointing
- sbroads24

We seen out team play 5 playoff games and you?

He's an upgrade for a lot of teams, and he sells tickets, which on a team in Southeast like TB or FLA, can't be discounted. A couple of teams are also looking to weedle a new arena from their respective city/county/state/province and so getting Lu who will get you at the very least, to the playoffs on his own would be very attractive. It will take a package of at least a top 9 forward/top 4 D or else a combo of midlevel prospects and a 1st round pick.
- DariusKnight

It's ok it is just another non playoff troll .

He's an upgrade for a lot of teams, and he sells tickets, which on a team in Southeast like TB or FLA, can't be discounted. A couple of teams are also looking to weedle a new arena from their respective city/county/state/province and so getting Lu who will get you at the very least, to the playoffs on his own would be very attractive. It will take a package of at least a top 9 forward/top 4 D or else a combo of midlevel prospects and a 1st round pick.
- DariusKnight

He is an upgrade yes I agree. But who is going to trade for a guy that is getting to be over the hill?? Is it a team rebuilding like CBJ?? Probably not. You dont build around a 33 yo goalie. Is it a team that is close to making the playoffs like TO or TB?? Maybe, but if their close to the playoffs they are not giving up top 6 forwards or top 4 d-men for an aged goalie with 6 yrs left on his deal. Your best bet is a team like Edmonton. Still bottom in the league, they have their rebuilding pieces but still need some players and could use a veteran like Luongo. I just think there is no way you would get a Eberle or a Taylor Hall for him. Maybe a Sam Gagne...Maybe

We seen out team play 5 playoff games and you?
- VANTEL

Congrats we have seen our team win 0 cups and you??

Congrats we have seen our team win 0 cups and you??
- sbroads24

Vancouver has won one cup back around the same time as the Leafs .How are the Sabres enjoying our sloppy seconds.?


I will be serious for a minute . That Ehrhoff contract is a thing of beauty. Should be great in about 4 years when that wussy gets slower.Your friend came in here ealier today and said Sulzer is great. He couldn't even make our team.Your goalie gets ran and your team didn't have the stones to stand up and defend him ,so what does Buffalo do? They trade their tough guy for no one.

Want to come in and criticize our team more? There is other dirt I can dig up.

Yes, Lu has negative worth in a trade because of his contract and age.

On a different note, I'm surprised you didn't ban me again. I was actually a little pissed off that you banned me for absolutely nothing, so an apology would be nice? I'll check back occasionally for the apology.
- RedwingsAreKHL

I wouldn't hold my breath. And I might think about being on my best behaviour to avoid a similar fate in the future.

Yes, Lu has negative worth in a trade because of his contract and age.

On a different note, I'm surprised you didn't ban me again. I was actually a little pissed off that you banned me for absolutely nothing, so an apology would be nice? I'll check back occasionally for the apology.
- RedwingsAreKHL

Vancouver has won one cup back around the same time as the Leafs .How are the Sabres enjoying our sloppy seconds.?


I will be serious for a minute . That Ehrhoff contract is a thing of beauty. Should be great in about 4 years when that wussy gets slower.Your friend came in here ealier today and said Sulzer is great. He couldn't even make our team.You goalie gets ran and your team didn't have the stones to stand up and defend him ,so what does Buffalo do? They trade their tough guy for no one.

Want to come in and criticize our team more? There is other dirt I can dig up.
- VANTEL

Ok.....I originally was not criticizing your team I was criticizing you. As far as digging up dirt???? Who are you?? Sherlock Holmes? Dig away be my guest. I could care less about Ehrhoff's contract, Im not posting garbage insinuating that my team is going to recieve Victor Hedman and a top 10 prospect for my aging goaltender, thats what I was criticizing. Hodgson is a no one?? lol, he went from being Trevor Linden 2.0 to no one. I am so glad the Kings are still in the playoffs....Their fans deserve it

Ok.....I originally was not criticizing your team I was criticizing you. As far as digging up dirt???? Who are you?? Sherlock Holmes? Dig away be my guest. I could care less about Ehrhoff's contract, Im not posting garbage insinuating that my team is going to recieve Victor Hedman and a top 10 prospect for my aging goaltender, thats what I was criticizing. Hodgson is a no one?? lol, he went from being Trevor Linden 2.0 to no one. I am so glad the Kings are still in the playoffs....Their fans deserve it
- sbroads24

The 200 of them that actually pay for tickets thinking they're Laker or Clippers tickets?

He is an upgrade yes I agree. But who is going to trade for a guy that is getting to be over the hill?? Is it a team rebuilding like CBJ?? Probably not. You dont build around a 33 yo goalie. Is it a team that is close to making the playoffs like TO or TB?? Maybe, but if their close to the playoffs they are not giving up top 6 forwards or top 4 d-men for an aged goalie with 6 yrs left on his deal. Your best bet is a team like Edmonton. Still bottom in the league, they have their rebuilding pieces but still need some players and could use a veteran like Luongo. I just think there is no way you would get a Eberle or a Taylor Hall for him. Maybe a Sam Gagne...Maybe
- sbroads24

Tampa Bay went from the ECF to near the bottom of the league on goaltending. So I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that they would be eager to get a top goalie like Luongo to compliment their impress forward ranks. And I think trading off a promising rookie would be a pretty small price to pay to pretty much guarentee teh playoffs and know that you are going to get some solid numbers and a lot of games form your starter.

Honestly, I think you are ignoring just how big a goalie like Luongo will have for the team that gets him. He's not just any goalie with a big contract. He's a proven difference maker with consistantly impressive numbers and he's a workhorse. There will be a market for him, same as there would be for Miller if Buffalo wanted to move him.

Ok.....I originally was not criticizing your team I was criticizing you. As far as digging up dirt???? Who are you?? Sherlock Holmes? Dig away be my guest. I could care less about Ehrhoff's contract, Im not posting garbage insinuating that my team is going to recieve Victor Hedman and a top 10 prospect for my aging goaltender, thats what I was criticizing. Hodgson is a no one?? lol, he went from being Trevor Linden 2.0 to no one. I am so glad the Kings are still in the playoffs....Their fans deserve it
- sbroads24

Your starting to look like a troll. Anyone talking about the deal with Hedman usually include Edler in it. Trevor Linden was a hero in Vancouver, especially because he was so loyal and low maintenance. I'm sure CoHo will turn into a solid player for you. Now mind your manners.

Ok.....I originally was not criticizing your team I was criticizing you. As far as digging up dirt???? Who are you?? Sherlock Holmes? Dig away be my guest. I could care less about Ehrhoff's contract, Im not posting garbage insinuating that my team is going to recieve Victor Hedman and a top 10 prospect for my aging goaltender, thats what I was criticizing. Hodgson is a no one?? lol, he went from being Trevor Linden 2.0 to no one. I am so glad the Kings are still in the playoffs....Their fans deserve it
- sbroads24

Ok Sherlock what had Hedman done in his career that makes him so much better than Edler?Instead of just flapping your lips and complaining you tell me how Hedman is better than Edler

I will bring up the stats
Edler 49 pts 143 hits 0 +/- 2012 All Star
Hedman 23 Pts 96 hits -9 +/- NOT a 2012 All Star

I never brought up Hodgsons name once .I think you got a good deal with him. I am talking about Ehrhoff mostly comparing his 10 year deal to LUs 10 year deal

Anybody else getting a page that asks for their cell number to reply to a post? I had to revert back to my old account because every time I try to post it won't let me unless I give my cell number and sign up for some rogers mail BS, in order to get a pin to post.

nope

Tampa Bay went from the ECF to near the bottom of the league on goaltending. So I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that they would be eager to get a top goalie like Luongo to compliment their impress forward ranks. And I think trading off a promising rookie would be a pretty small price to pay to pretty much guarentee teh playoffs and know that you are going to get some solid numbers and a lot of games form your starter.

Honestly, I think you are ignoring just how big a goalie like Luongo will have for the team that gets him. He's not just any goalie with a big contract. He's a proven difference maker with consistantly impressive numbers and he's a workhorse. There will be a market for him, same as there would be for Miller if Buffalo wanted to move him.
- micah555

Miller is 31 and signed until he is 33. Far more attractive to a team like TB or CBJ. Im not under-valuing LU, he is good, not great anymore, and like everyone of you said only good until April. Lu is not a free agent, no team is "eager" to take on that contract, no one is. He is not worth it for another 6 yrs, like I said you dont rebuild a team with an old goalie, nor do you trade away valueable assets to take on a salary dump player.

Miller is 31 and signed until he is 33. Far more attractive to a team like TB or CBJ. Im not under-valuing LU, he is good, not great anymore, and like everyone of you said only good until April. Lu is not a free agent, no team is "eager" to take on that contract, no one is. He is not worth it for another 6 yrs, like I said you dont rebuild a team with an old goalie, nor do you trade away valueable assets to take on a salary dump player.
- sbroads24

Thanks for your expert opinion on what every GM in the league will or won't do. It's great to have all this insider info.

Thanks for your expert opinion on what every GM in the league will or won't do. It's great to have all this insider info.
- fiveandagame

Is that how all of you respond???? How bout a different opinion based on any facts or logical opinion??? " Thanks for your expert opinion" You sound as intelligent as I do. Anytime someone on this website has anything to say that Vancouver fans might not like our opinions are dismissed with sarcasm. You guys are becoming sore losers.

Miller is 31 and signed until he is 33. Far more attractive to a team like TB or CBJ. Im not under-valuing LU, he is good, not great anymore, and like everyone of you said only good until April. Lu is not a free agent, no team is "eager" to take on that contract, no one is. He is not worth it for another 6 yrs, like I said you dont rebuild a team with an old goalie, nor do you trade away valueable assets to take on a salary dump player.
- sbroads24

You know this how? How many times have you seen Lu play this year?

Him and Schneider were our two best players .Our goaltenders were our MVPs .Lu had the lions share of the games.The two of them took the team to the best record in the NHL.

33 is not old for a goalie. 6 more years will bring him to 39. Even if a team like the Leafs had him to the playoffs another 4 times ,this is still a 400% improvement over the last decade. That would be at the minimum 8 playoff games increasing TML value about 10 million dollars which happens to be 2 years of LUs salary.

I think Lu has more game than Miller and all year round I heard Miller for Kane.Yet Lu could not bring in a top 10 draft pick.


I get the impression you read a lot of headlines.

Tampa Bay went from the ECF to near the bottom of the league on goaltending. So I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that they would be eager to get a top goalie like Luongo to compliment their impress forward ranks. And I think trading off a promising rookie would be a pretty small price to pay to pretty much guarentee teh playoffs and know that you are going to get some solid numbers and a lot of games form your starter.

Honestly, I think you are ignoring just how big a goalie like Luongo will have for the team that gets him. He's not just any goalie with a big contract. He's a proven difference maker with consistantly impressive numbers and he's a workhorse. There will be a market for him, same as there would be for Miller if Buffalo wanted to move him.
- micah555

The fact that Vinny and St Louis shelf life is almost up, it'd make sense that they either a) trade them or b) get a top-calibre goalie that IS a known commodity and take another serious run at the cup...

Luongo and a minor leaguer would likely net us Eric Brewer and Brett Connolly.....

Miller is 31 and signed until he is 33. Far more attractive to a team like TB or CBJ. Im not under-valuing LU, he is good, not great anymore, and like everyone of you said only good until April. Lu is not a free agent, no team is "eager" to take on that contract, no one is. He is not worth it for another 6 yrs, like I said you dont rebuild a team with an old goalie, nor do you trade away valueable assets to take on a salary dump player.
- sbroads24

Nor do you keep valuable assets if you can upgrade where you really need to. Teams don't have to be eager, but they also can't afford to sit back and hope they can get someone like him for cheap. Again, the reality in the NHL for a lot of teams is that unless you win now, your job is gone. That includes all coaches and GMs, especially in markets that aren't doing well financially. With your new owner, you can't afford to miss the playoffs again for another year, not after he's actually let Regier spend money on UFAs to try and make a run. Not saying that Buffalo would trade for Luongo seeing as Miller will be good enough for the next few years and you have Enroth waiting in the wings, but that doesn't preclude other teams from doing so.