If I'm Toronto, I see what's available at 5, hope to god Galchenyuk or Grigo falls. If not, I try to parlay that 5th Overall into another young center (Strome? Schenn?), unlikely to happen but worth exploring...

Then take the chance, to move down a spot or two, recoup another 2nd and take Faksa.





- Brian Huddle

Snow is a moron but even he is not stupid enough to trade Strome for the 5th pick, how does this even make sense?

Snow is a moron but even he is not stupid enough to trade Strome for the 5th pick, how does this even make sense?
- Cptmjl

I could make an argument for Ryan Murray straight up for Strome if that scenario unfolds, which I don't think it would. I think Murray could end up being a more valuable player for the Isles than Strome, all things being equal.

Snow is a moron but even he is not stupid enough to trade Strome for the 5th pick, how does this even make sense?
- Cptmjl

See last post--- 5 for Strome isn't gonna happen. If I'm Toronto, I explore it though, and see how much I'd have to add to get Strome.

Again I'm not saying it'll happen, I'm explaining the thought process Toronto would have if it were me. If my guys aren't there at 5, I explore a trade for someone else before I move down and grab Faksa.

I could make an argument for Ryan Murray straight up for Strome if that scenario unfolds, which I don't think it would. I think Murray could end up being a more valuable player for the Isles than Strome, all things being equal.
- Lohaus

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- AdamFrench

You're so insensitive.

You're so insensitive.

- Lohaus

I make fun of him because he's done such a great job

I make fun of him because he's done such a great job
- AdamFrench

When he was with the Wings back in the day, they used to have this Bryan Murray Wings program on and it was seriously painful to listen to him talking about Steve Yzerman and the rocket man Paul Ysabart.

Prospect fans:

Will be interviewing Miles Koules and Morgan Reilly on Wednesday. Any q's you'd ask them if you got the chance?

Just like they have Rushed Kadri and Colborne ... players drafted 3 and 4 years ago
- senstroll

No they just suck so it's not a big concern. Why rush third line players. Let me now when either of them actually make an impact in this league

No they just suck so it's not a big concern. Why rush third line players. Let me now when either of them actually make an impact in this league
- TypicalCat18

Kadri was on pace for 20 goals if he played a full season this year. I'm willing to bet he's a good 20 goal guy for Toronto next year, playing on Grabovski's line.

EDIT: to add to that, I've been very outspoken about my dislike of Kadri (having been a Kitchener Ranger Season Ticket holder for years). He was originally drafted witht he upside to be a first line 80 pt guy. While TO won't get that, they've got themselves, IMO, a 20 goal 60 pt player in him. Don't think he's a bust.

See last post--- 5 for Strome isn't gonna happen. If I'm Toronto, I explore it though, and see how much I'd have to add to get Strome.

Again I'm not saying it'll happen, I'm explaining the thought process Toronto would have if it were me. If my guys aren't there at 5, I explore a trade for someone else before I move down and grab Faksa.
- Brian Huddle

I hear you, just think it would be a step back instead of forward. Hope to God Snow agrees with my way of thinking because it would be a ridiculously stupid move on his part which means theres a chance he'll do it!

No they just suck so it's not a big concern. Why rush third line players. Let me now when either of them actually make an impact in this league
- TypicalCat18

Gotcha... if they bring them up now they are rushing them, leave them down they are a bust..

Gotcha... if they bring them up now they are rushing them, leave them down they are a bust..
- senstroll

As long as they aren't calling them up and sending them down on a regular basis. That ruins them.

Kadri was on pace for 20 goals if he played a full season this year. I'm willing to bet he's a good 20 goal guy for Toronto next year, playing on Grabovski's line.

EDIT: to add to that, I've been very outspoken about my dislike of Kadri (having been a Kitchener Ranger Season Ticket holder for years). He was originally drafted witht he upside to be a first line 80 pt guy. While TO won't get that, they've got themselves, IMO, a 20 goal 60 pt player in him. Don't think he's a bust.
- Brian Huddle

Kadri has 19 points in 51 career games... but B. schenn drafted 2 spots higher has 20 points in 63 games.

Makes sense Kadri is a Bust

I could make an argument for Ryan Murray straight up for Strome if that scenario unfolds, which I don't think it would. I think Murray could end up being a more valuable player for the Isles than Strome, all things being equal.
- Lohaus

You could be right but I really don't think Strome is getting traded. Murray could be an Islander none the less if he drops to four, Toronto picks five. It would just be taking a step back in this "rebuild"( ). This thing has to start showing some progress and trading a pick(with a lot of upside) and a year post draft under his belt(and training camp as well)for a pick is kind of senseless, Toronto being able to sweeten the pot would make it more believable but what would they offer? Overpaying on their part for a unproven talent would make little sense and thats what it would take IMO.

As much as I'd love to have two picks in a row in the top-5, I can't see the Isles swapping #5 for Strome. We are desperate for immediate help on this team, and trading a prospect drafted a year ago for one drafted this year only tacks on an extra year of development for a higher-end prospect.

Also, what's the deal with Galchenyuk? Sucks nobody got to see him play much this season. Is he the real deal or was his great season last year more a product of playing with Yakupov? Clearly I have no idea considering I see approximately 0 to 0 OHL games down here on the Islander, per year.
- eichiefs9

This is also viewed as a relatively weak draft, so we're all overrating guys just because they're "top 5." for instance, I would take Strome over every forward in this draft, except Yakupov. I even think he's a better prospect than any of the d-men this year. So trading Strome for Galchenyuk is not only adding more development time, but you're getting a lesser player IMO.

Snow is a moron but even he is not stupid enough to trade Strome for the 5th pick, how does this even make sense?
- Cptmjl

Oh, I know, signing Matt Moulson and PA Parenteau for nothing when anyone could have had them was a really stupid move. Grabbing Nabokov on waivers was really dumb on Snow's part, even though Nabokov has since decided TO STAY LONGER. And on and on. Please pay attention to the current Islanders- it's not 2001 anymore, thanks.

I could make an argument for Ryan Murray straight up for Strome if that scenario unfolds, which I don't think it would. I think Murray could end up being a more valuable player for the Isles than Strome, all things being equal.
- Lohaus

Murray is good, but he's not on Hedman or Larsson's level. I wouldn't trade Strome for Murray straight up; I'd rather just stay at 4 and draft Dumba or Reinhart and keep Strome.

I hear you, just think it would be a step back instead of forward. Hope to God Snow agrees with my way of thinking because it would be a ridiculously stupid move on his part which means theres a chance he'll do it!
- Cptmjl

OMG THAT'S HILARIOUS! THATS THE FUNNIEST THING I'VE READ ALL DAY! What's laughable is how you apparently don't follow the Islanders, then come on message boards undeservedly bashing your own GM. Some fan you are. Like Islander fans need opposing fans to have more misconceptions about our team, thanks.

You could be right but I really don't think Strome is getting traded. Murray could be an Islander none the less if he drops to four, Toronto picks five. It would just be taking a step back in this "rebuild"( ). This thing has to start showing some progress and trading a pick(with a lot of upside) and a year post draft under his belt(and training camp as well)for a pick is kind of senseless, Toronto being able to sweeten the pot would make it more believable but what would they offer? Overpaying on their part for a unproven talent would make little sense and thats what it would take IMO.
- Cptmjl

Well, my previous post to he one quoted is my real opinion, just saying I could make an argument. It won't happen because there isn't another player in the draft I'd value more than Strome. Forsberg has question marks, Galchenyuk could end up with the same type of ceilign as Strome with injury concerns, Grigorenko I don't believe offers the same offensive ceiling as Strome, just has a bigger body. The D kids outside of Murray I can't make the argument. So unless the Isles place more value on the forwards than Strome, which i'd disagree with, the Murray scenario doesn't materlalize unless the Ilses deal their pick elsewhere for a player. Thats the only scenario where I'd justify it but like I said, it won't happen.

As long as they aren't calling them up and sending them down on a regular basis. That ruins them.

- Lohaus

Quiet you!

This is also viewed as a relatively weak draft, so we're all overrating guys just because they're "top 5." for instance, I would take Strome over every forward in this draft, except Yakupov. I even think he's a better prospect than any of the d-men this year. So trading Strome for Galchenyuk is not only adding more development time, but you're getting a lesser player IMO.
- isles10289

I hate how the media go on about "weak".

It's a top heavy draft, similar to last year, just doesn't have the depth that 2011 had through the 2nd round. (players like Saad in the 2nd?)

Remember at this time last year how everyone was pumping up 2012 and talking crap about 2011. Happens eveeeerry year.

Murray is good, but he's not on Hedman or Larsson's level. I wouldn't trade Strome for Murray straight up; I'd rather just stay at 4 and draft Dumba or Reinhart and keep Strome.
- isles10289

Again, I'm just saying I could make an argument for it, not that I would do the deal. My last post points out why it won't occur anyways.

Kadri has 19 points in 51 career games... but B. schenn drafted 2 spots higher has 20 points in 63 games.

Makes sense Kadri is a Bust
- senstroll

Schenn also adds infinitely more defensively and is making a big impact on a team with Stanley Cup aspirations. Kadri has spend a few seasons failing at every opportunity to stick with the NHL club until this past season. We'll see what happens, but so far, hard to compare these two unless you conveniently cherry pick one stat that they happen to be close in.

I hate how the media go on about "weak".

It's a top heavy draft, similar to last year, just doesn't have the depth that 2011 had through the 2nd round. (players like Saad in the 2nd?)

Remember at this time last year how everyone was pumping up 2012 and talking crap about 2011. Happens eveeeerry year.
- Brian Huddle

That's true; I guess that's a good question- if you could pick one, would you take Strome or Galchenyuk? I'd pick Strome, not only because he's a year further in his development but also because I think his offensive ceiling is higher.