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DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Apr 15 @ 1:17 PM ET


Canucks new management

GM... Vintage
Coach ...Insane Mosquito
PP specialist... DCT
Burrows Lapierre Kesler's chirping coach... DShiddy
Defense Coach and Bieksa's personal assistant ... Booner
Cap and rules specialist ...Micah
Head Scout ... Hertzman
Stick boy and beer keeper .Lefty Vantel Alex and Boinker
Media and Image ...Hank the T
Radio broadcasts ..Ian

Pot smoker...Beatle John

- VANTEL


Zamboni Driver: Dariusknight

I definitely wanna be /THAT/ guy
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 15 @ 1:20 PM ET
Zamboni Driver: Dariusknight

I definitely wanna be /THAT/ guy

- DariusKnight



We still need an O Canada guy too
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 15 @ 1:21 PM ET
Zamboni Driver: Dariusknight

I definitely wanna be /THAT/ guy

- DariusKnight


Chompsey can put on tights and shovel the snow from the boards.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 15 @ 1:24 PM ET
We still need an O Canada guy too
- VANTEL

I'm in
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Apr 15 @ 1:33 PM ET
Riot prevention specialist: Whiskey-Tango.

All I need is a fire hydrant and hose in close proximity to the main exit.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Apr 15 @ 1:37 PM ET
Riot prevention specialist: Whiskey-Tango.

All I need is a fire hydrant and hose in close proximity to the main exit.

- Whiskey-Tango

I'll be the Rogers arena greeter(as long as brute force is permitted) Every kings fan would get a complimentary broken nose
jakenewton
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Leaf fans still waiting for a , BC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Apr 15 @ 1:42 PM ET
I bet its a huge Canuck crowd tonight. It seems like everybody I talk to knows a few people that made the trip down.

I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Apr 15 @ 1:43 PM ET
I bet its a huge Canuck crowd tonight. It seems like everybody I talk to knows a few people that made the trip down.
- jakenewton

Maybe they just know the same people
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 15 @ 1:47 PM ET
Det/Nash game heating up
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Apr 15 @ 1:48 PM ET
I bet its a huge Canuck crowd tonight. It seems like everybody I talk to knows a few people that made the trip down.
- jakenewton

Prepare for Barry female doging tomorrow.
hertzman
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.18.2006

Apr 15 @ 1:49 PM ET
Det/Nash game heating up
- VANTEL


Datsyuk is unreal.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 15 @ 1:53 PM ET
Tell us what you really think....
Open up, it's ok...
No one is judging you here.

- Whiskey-Tango


Now there's a load of BS! Leafs are often judged for simpy being Leafs fans, ESPECIALLY by Canucks, Habs, Sens, Flyers, Sabres and Bruins fans!

Don't get me wrong Schneider is a great goalie with a bright future and would fetch the Canucks a nice piece or two, but what you're expecting is WAAAY too much.

There has been a lot of comparison between what the Caps got for Varlamov (1st 2012 = 11thoverall + 2nd 2013) vs. what the Canucks could expect from trading Schneider. Is Schneider a better goalie than Varlamov? I definitely think so, BUT Schneider's value is decreased considering that he is offically a back-up, whereas Varlamov was considered a "#1" at the time. Although I think Schneider's experience on a team like Vancouver and certainyl his playoff experience also help his value.

I totally think Schneider can land the Canucks a 1st rounder, but there is a HUGE difference between trading a 1st that is the 11th overall vs. a 1st pick that is 2nd overall FROM A REBUILDING TEAM! Look at it this way using the Leafs 5th overall. If the Leafs wanted to move up in the draft to the 1st or 2nd overall, the Leafs would have to include significant assets ON TOP of dealing their 5th overall just to move up 3 or 4 spots!

For you to think that Schneider will land the Canucks the 2nd overall + Ryan Johansen + Jon Moore is COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS! I know the Jackets need a goalie, but why the hell would they do this ESPECIALLY when they're thinking dealing Nash in the offseason and officially going back into early rebuild mode?
Besides, Vancouver is in "win now" mode, how would a 1st rounder (who may or may not play) and a couple young players early in their NHL development help NOW?

That said, I think that the Canucks would have a better shot at Rick Nash in a deal that included Schneider++. As to what those "+'s" are, I imagine that the Canucks 1st, 30th overlall + a decent prospect would start the concersation.
A deal surrounding these players are what benefits both teams the most given their respective positions.

Could you imagine Nash in a Canucks jersey with the core of players that Vancouver has now? VERY SCARY!!!

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 15 @ 1:56 PM ET
Now there's a load of BS! Leafs are often judged for simpy being Leafs fans, ESPECIALLY by Canucks, Habs, Sens, Flyers, Sabres and Bruins fans!
Don't get me wrong Schneider is a great goalie with a bright future and would fetch the Canucks a nice piece or two, but what you're expecting is WAAAY too much.

There has been a lot of comparison between what the Caps got for Varlamov (1st 2012 = 11thoverall + 2nd 2013) vs. what the Canucks could expect from trading Schneider. Is Schneider a better goalie than Varlamov? I definitely think so, BUT Schneider's value is decreased considering that he is offically a back-up, whereas Varlamov was considered a "#1" at the time. Although I think Schneider's experience on a team like Vancouver and certainyl his playoff experience also help his value.

I totally think Schneider can land the Canucks a 1st rounder, but there is a HUGE difference between trading a 1st that is the 11th overall vs. a 1st pick that is 2nd overall FROM A REBUILDING TEAM! Look at it this way using the Leafs 5th overall. If the Leafs wanted to move up in the draft to the 1st or 2nd overall, the Leafs would have to include significant assets ON TOP of dealing their 5th overall just to move up 3 or 4 spots!

For you to think that Schneider will land the Canucks the 2nd overall + Ryan Johansen + Jon Moore is COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS! I know the Jackets need a goalie, but why the hell would they do this ESPECIALLY when they're thinking dealing Nash in the offseason and officially going back into early rebuild mode?
Besides, Vancouver is in "win now" mode, how would a 1st rounder (who may or may not play) and a couple young players early in their NHL development help NOW?

That said, I think that the Canucks would have a better shot at Rick Nash in a deal that included Schneider++. As to what those "+'s" are, I imagine that the Canucks 1st, 30th overlall + a decent prospect would start the concersation.
A deal surrounding these players are what benefits both teams the most given their respective positions.

Could you imagine Nash in a Canucks jersey with the core of players that Vancouver has now? VERY SCARY!!!

- As_I_See_It



That is a lot of judging
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 15 @ 1:58 PM ET
Now there's a load of BS! Leafs are often judged for simpy being Leafs fans, ESPECIALLY by Canucks, Habs, Sens, Flyers, Sabres and Bruins fans!

Don't get me wrong Schneider is a great goalie with a bright future and would fetch the Canucks a nice piece or two, but what you're expecting is WAAAY too much.

There has been a lot of comparison between what the Caps got for Varlamov (1st 2012 = 11thoverall + 2nd 2013) vs. what the Canucks could expect from trading Schneider. Is Schneider a better goalie than Varlamov? I definitely think so, BUT Schneider's value is decreased considering that he is offically a back-up, whereas Varlamov was considered a "#1" at the time. Although I think Schneider's experience on a team like Vancouver and certainyl his playoff experience also help his value.

I totally think Schneider can land the Canucks a 1st rounder, but there is a HUGE difference between trading a 1st that is the 11th overall vs. a 1st pick that is 2nd overall FROM A REBUILDING TEAM! Look at it this way using the Leafs 5th overall. If the Leafs wanted to move up in the draft to the 1st or 2nd overall, the Leafs would have to include significant assets ON TOP of dealing their 5th overall just to move up 3 or 4 spots!

For you to think that Schneider will land the Canucks the 2nd overall + Ryan Johansen + Jon Moore is COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS! I know the Jackets need a goalie, but why the hell would they do this ESPECIALLY when they're thinking dealing Nash in the offseason and officially going back into early rebuild mode?
Besides, Vancouver is in "win now" mode, how would a 1st rounder (who may or may not play) and a couple young players early in their NHL development help NOW?

That said, I think that the Canucks would have a better shot at Rick Nash in a deal that included Schneider++. As to what those "+'s" are, I imagine that the Canucks 1st, 30th overlall + a decent prospect would start the concersation.
A deal surrounding these players are what benefits both teams the most given their respective positions.

Could you imagine Nash in a Canucks jersey with the core of players that Vancouver has now? VERY SCARY!!!

- As_I_See_It



Schneider is going nowhere.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Apr 15 @ 2:00 PM ET
Now there's a load of BS! Leafs are often judged for simpy being Leafs fans, ESPECIALLY by Canucks, Habs, Sens, Flyers, Sabres and Bruins fans!

Don't get me wrong Schneider is a great goalie with a bright future and would fetch the Canucks a nice piece or two, but what you're expecting is WAAAY too much.

There has been a lot of comparison between what the Caps got for Varlamov (1st 2012 = 11thoverall + 2nd 2013) vs. what the Canucks could expect from trading Schneider. Is Schneider a better goalie than Varlamov? I definitely think so, BUT Schneider's value is decreased considering that he is offically a back-up, whereas Varlamov was considered a "#1" at the time. Although I think Schneider's experience on a team like Vancouver and certainyl his playoff experience also help his value.

I totally think Schneider can land the Canucks a 1st rounder, but there is a HUGE difference between trading a 1st that is the 11th overall vs. a 1st pick that is 2nd overall FROM A REBUILDING TEAM! Look at it this way using the Leafs 5th overall. If the Leafs wanted to move up in the draft to the 1st or 2nd overall, the Leafs would have to include significant assets ON TOP of dealing their 5th overall just to move up 3 or 4 spots!

For you to think that Schneider will land the Canucks the 2nd overall + Ryan
Johansen + Jon Moore is COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS! I know the Jackets need a goalie, but why the hell would they do this ESPECIALLY when they're thinking dealing Nash in the offseason and officially going back into early rebuild mode?
Besides, Vancouver is in "win now" mode, how would a 1st rounder (who may or may not play) and a couple young players early in their NHL development help NOW?

That said, I think that the Canucks would have a better shot at Rick Nash in a deal that included Schneider++. As to what those "+'s" are, I imagine that the Canucks 1st, 30th overlall + a decent prospect would start the concersation.
A deal surrounding these players are what benefits both teams the most given respective positions.




Could you imagine Nash in a Canucks jersey with the core of players that Vancouver has now? VERY SCARY!!!

- As_I_See_It



Take a deep breath my son.
After getting all that off your chest, do you not feel better?
Now go in peace.
hertzman
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.18.2006

Apr 15 @ 2:01 PM ET
Now there's a load of BS! Leafs are often judged for simpy being Leafs fans, ESPECIALLY by Canucks, Habs, Sens, Flyers, Sabres and Bruins fans!

Don't get me wrong Schneider is a great goalie with a bright future and would fetch the Canucks a nice piece or two, but what you're expecting is WAAAY too much.

There has been a lot of comparison between what the Caps got for Varlamov (1st 2012 = 11thoverall + 2nd 2013) vs. what the Canucks could expect from trading Schneider. Is Schneider a better goalie than Varlamov? I definitely think so, BUT Schneider's value is decreased considering that he is offically a back-up, whereas Varlamov was considered a "#1" at the time. Although I think Schneider's experience on a team like Vancouver and certainyl his playoff experience also help his value.

I totally think Schneider can land the Canucks a 1st rounder, but there is a HUGE difference between trading a 1st that is the 11th overall vs. a 1st pick that is 2nd overall FROM A REBUILDING TEAM! Look at it this way using the Leafs 5th overall. If the Leafs wanted to move up in the draft to the 1st or 2nd overall, the Leafs would have to include significant assets ON TOP of dealing their 5th overall just to move up 3 or 4 spots!

For you to think that Schneider will land the Canucks the 2nd overall + Ryan Johansen + Jon Moore is COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS! I know the Jackets need a goalie, but why the hell would they do this ESPECIALLY when they're thinking dealing Nash in the offseason and officially going back into early rebuild mode?
Besides, Vancouver is in "win now" mode, how would a 1st rounder (who may or may not play) and a couple young players early in their NHL development help NOW?

That said, I think that the Canucks would have a better shot at Rick Nash in a deal that included Schneider++. As to what those "+'s" are, I imagine that the Canucks 1st, 30th overlall + a decent prospect would start the concersation.
A deal surrounding these players are what benefits both teams the most given their respective positions.

Could you imagine Nash in a Canucks jersey with the core of players that Vancouver has now? VERY SCARY!!!

- As_I_See_It


My prediction was that Nash would be a Canuck in the offseason before Hodgson got traded. It would have been Hodgson, Schneider and a pick or prospect. Now, I don't see it happening.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 15 @ 2:03 PM ET
My prediction was that Nash would be a Canuck in the offseason before Hodgson got traded. It would have been Hodgson, Schneider and a pick or prospect. Now, I don't see it happening.
- hertzman


My prediction is if Lu is on the bench today then he is the one being moved this summer.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 15 @ 2:07 PM ET
Schneider is going nowhere.
- VANTEL


Perhaps, but what happens if Luongo won't waive his NTC? How much can the Canucks afford to pay Scheider or better yet, how much will Schneider be asking for when HE KNOWS that he can sign a significant contact elsewhere?

Make no mistake about it, Gillis and the Canucks org. could be in a difficult position this summer and the other GM's and players involve know it too!
And what about the CBA expiring, how does that play into all of this?

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 15 @ 2:07 PM ET
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As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 15 @ 2:09 PM ET
Take a deep breath my son.
After getting all that off your chest, do you not feel better?
Now go in peace.

- Whiskey-Tango




You know I'm right, hence your lack of response!

As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 15 @ 2:11 PM ET
My prediction was that Nash would be a Canuck in the offseason before Hodgson got traded. It would have been Hodgson, Schneider and a pick or prospect. Now, I don't see it happening.
- hertzman


And why couldn't it be Schneider, KASSIAN and a pick or a prospect?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 15 @ 2:12 PM ET
Perhaps, but what happens if Luongo won't waive his NTC? How much can the Canucks afford to pay Scheider or better yet, how much will Schneider be asking for when HE KNOWS that he can sign a significant contact elsewhere?

Make no mistake about it, Gillis and the Canucks org. could be in a difficult position this summer and the other GM's and players involve know it too!
And what about the CBA expiring, how does that play into all of this?

- As_I_See_It


No he is not. If they pull Luongo today after the way he has played do you not think he would want a trade? Lu doesn't particularly care for Vancouver fans.

If he decides not to waive ,then MG alerts Lu that next year he will be grooming Eddie Lach and will be traded in three years.We can handle that.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 15 @ 2:13 PM ET
My prediction is if Lu is on the bench today then he is the one being moved this summer.
- VANTEL


I made a prediction that enough ice would be off Dragon Lake to fish today. I was wrong(sorry dad). Instead I'm here crying about the Canucks.

Halifax Moose were down 3-0 in their series against Quebec. They have a chance to tie the series tomorrow and play a game 7. Go Alex Grenier! He's been very good this season. I see this player on our bottom six in a couple of years....


boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 15 @ 2:14 PM ET
And why couldn't it be Schneider, KASSIAN and a pick or a prospect?
- As_I_See_It


Very few people beleive Kassian has the trade value that Hodgson does. Thats why.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Apr 15 @ 2:17 PM ET
My prediction is if Lu is on the bench today then he is the one being moved this summer.
- VANTEL

if lu is on the bench the poor guy should ask for a trade himself if AV is back next year.

Penalize the players that actually have some playoff drive...great coaching.

Schnieder would bring back more, they really should trade him. And with Lack (and then Cannata...vcr is set on goalies for a long time) ready to step up, its a perfect situation to get him to get some games in during the season.

Schnieder is good, but can he handle 60+ games? No one knows yet.
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