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RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 7 @ 2:20 PM ET
You all ready for 8 straight games between the Pens and Flyers at the end of the year?
- kgrpitt


If last night's hit on Voracek was on Crosby, do you think there would have been a suspension?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 7 @ 2:21 PM ET
No. Even Voracek said today he thought it was a clean hit and unavoidable once Kronwall stepped up on him. He did not think it was suspension-worthy, nor did Jagr, Talbot, Holmgren and others.
- bmeltzer

ug ok... thanks
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:21 PM ET
He's made a fair share of suspect plays, yes. But to say that he's been completely useless is a drastic exaggeration. I actually thought he looked stellar coupled with Jagr on the recent road trip.
- BoomGoesTheCoburn


I don't really feel like scratching Briere for Harry Z...
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 7 @ 2:21 PM ET
I think if we weren't so banged up Briere should be a HS for a game to 2 to wake his butt up.... Say all you want about being a past Hero's, but look on other teams... Knuble was a HS this year.... Kovalchuk was last year... Briere doesnt play D... If he isnt scoring.... He should be sitting..
- RooNosHockey

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 7 @ 2:21 PM ET
That wasn't an option!
- kgrpitt

That's what Lando Calrissian said when he lost the Millennium Falcon to Han Solo.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:21 PM ET
If the player puts himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to contact or simultaneous to the contact, then it's a mitigating factor. From watching the video, Voracek turns from the boards to center ice just before he gets hit. If he's still facing the boards, he's hit on the shoulder and not the face.
- Jsaquella


Immediately prior to...?

Kronwall watched that play unfold and smoked Jake. Let's not act as if it was bang-bang.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 7 @ 2:21 PM ET
No. Even Voracek said today he thought it was a clean hit and unavoidable once Kronwall stepped up on him. He did not think it was suspension-worthy, nor did Jagr, Talbot, Holmgren and others.
- bmeltzer


Thank you for that. Now we can all move forward. I will say, I wish the NHL didn't show that clip as a highlight for the week. It is sickening in a bad way.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:22 PM ET
If last night's hit on Voracek was on Crosby, do you think there would have been a suspension?
- RooNosHockey


No. Sid would of done a spin-a-rama and scored on a breakaway.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:22 PM ET
If last night's hit on Voracek was on Crosby, do you think there would have been a suspension?
- RooNosHockey


Been in Arizona for a week so I haven't been up on hockey. Link to the hit?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:23 PM ET
I don't really feel like scratching Briere for Harry Z...
- funmaster18

With only two call ups left, if we scratch Briere you know who'd probably be back in the line-up. Are we really ready to replace Briere with him?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 7 @ 2:23 PM ET
If last night's hit on Voracek was on Crosby, do you think there would have been a suspension?
- RooNosHockey

Death penalty.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 7 @ 2:23 PM ET
No. Sid would of done a spin-a-rama and scored on a breakaway.
- stveshdy



I like your answer better.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 7 @ 2:23 PM ET
I meant that saying Bryz had improved because of them was probably overstating their impact. Since Bryz improved throughout February.
- bodiva88

Oh, Bryz was improving I just think their presence augments the progression and if we had them throughout the season or Pronger the damage would have been much more minimized. Ah feels good to read and discuss something other than this kronwall hit
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:23 PM ET
With only two call ups left, if we scratch Briere you know who'd probably be back in the line-up. Are we really ready to replace Briere with him?
- BulliesPhan87


#45?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 7 @ 2:24 PM ET
I don't know, I'm a bit disappointed after that broken gif link near the start of his post. I expected better from a veteran such as he.
- BulliesPhan87

Works for me...
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 7 @ 2:24 PM ET
If last night's hit on Voracek was on Crosby, do you think there would have been a suspension?
- RooNosHockey


coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 7 @ 2:24 PM ET

- JoeRussomanno


Wow, I agree with this statement. Briere is not effective unless he is willing to go to the dirty areas of the ice and lately that hasn't happened. In the POs he is willing to get hit, sacrifice, in the regular season? Not so much.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:24 PM ET
Have those 3 even played 12 games together the past 2 seasons?
- rockychocbill


I believe last year we have 1.5 games (winter classic and game after it) with all three and this year I believe we have had 4-5 games with all three. So to answer you, No. No we haven't
BoomGoesTheCoburn
Location: The Land of the Rising Sun
Joined: 10.27.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:24 PM ET
That's what Lando Calrissian said when he lost the Millennium Falcon to Han Solo.
- Flyskippy


Always some white boy gotta invoke the holy trilogy. Bust this: Those movies are about how the white man keeps the brother man down, even in a galaxy far, far away. Check this poop: You got cracker farm boy Luke Skywalker, Nazi poster boy, blond hair, blue eyes. And then you got Darth Vader, the blackest brother in the galaxy, Nubian god!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:24 PM ET
#45?
- stveshdy

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 7 @ 2:25 PM ET
Been in Arizona for a week so I haven't been up on hockey. Link to the hit?
- kgrpitt

NO it's over please let this end! There's been about 30 pages of discussion enough already!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:26 PM ET
NO it's over please let this end! There's been about 30 pages of discussion enough already!
- JoeRussomanno


What happened to Carle sucks, Bryz cant stop a beachball and Shelley's famous popcorn tricks?
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 7 @ 2:27 PM ET

- OrangeBlack27




*any chance he signs with the Jets so he and Eli can lick Oreo's together in NYC?*
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 7 @ 2:27 PM ET
Voracek himself said the hit was clean, per Timmy P.
- bradleyc4



he put himself in a very bad position having his head down.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Mar 7 @ 2:27 PM ET

- OrangeBlack27

future viking
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