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rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 7 @ 1:59 PM ET
Yep. Agreed. It IS a predatory hit. However, with the leeway provided by Rule 48, Kronwall gets no punishment. There's not even a half second between Voracek's slight turn and contact. If Voracek doesn't turn, Kronwall hits his shoulder.
- Jsaquella


Not predatory imo. Not in this instance. You are taught to make that hit since you're 12 years old.
pharcyde
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Mar 7 @ 2:00 PM ET
Not predatory imo. Not in this instance. You are taught to make that hit since you're 12 years old.
- rockychocbill

The hockey school of decapitation?
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:01 PM ET
Any word on Jake yet? I see that Jagr, Timonen and Mezzy will all miss tomorrow's game.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 7 @ 2:02 PM ET
They're identical hits actually.

*Mezzy sighting at 35 sec in*


- rockychocbill


Srsly have to be insane to say he didn't leave his feet before delivering the hit.
BoomGoesTheCoburn
Location: The Land of the Rising Sun
Joined: 10.27.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:02 PM ET
Not predatory imo. Not in this instance. You are taught to make that hit since you're 12 years old.
- rockychocbill


You are taught a lot of things at age 12.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Mar 7 @ 2:03 PM ET
i know i' not supposed to do this but

would HAVE

would HAVE

would HAVE



- Don'tForgetTocchet

shoulda coulda woulda
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Mar 7 @ 2:03 PM ET
I thought the point of a check is to separate the player from the puck, not his head from his body..
- pharcyde



highlight hit...the mentality has changed
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Mar 7 @ 2:03 PM ET
Any word on Jake yet? I see that Jagr, Timonen and Mezzy will all miss tomorrow's game.
- Duran76


nothing on Jake at this time

doubtful
out
out
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 7 @ 2:04 PM ET
Yep. Agreed. It IS a predatory hit. However, with the leeway provided by Rule 48, Kronwall gets no punishment. There's not even a half second between Voracek's slight turn and contact. If Voracek doesn't turn, Kronwall hits his shoulder.

There is nothing in the rule about predatory hits being illegal.

- Jsaquella


Match penality for intent to injure....
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:04 PM ET
Srsly have to be insane to say he didn't leave his feet before delivering the hit.
- OrangeBlack27


That hit is nothing close to the Kronwall hit imo. Downie drills a player coming around the net and leaves his skates. He also is moving full speed at the player. I agree with you. You have to be insane to think its similar.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:05 PM ET
THERE IS NO JUSTICE IN THE NHL. IT'S ALL BASED ON BUDDY BUDDY CRAP. BRENDAN SHANAHAN IS A FRAUD AND HAS ZERO INTEGRITY.
briseman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, DE
Joined: 07.09.2007

Mar 7 @ 2:06 PM ET
The hockey school of decapitation?
- pharcyde


just read this on tweet.

<<
@TheOnionNHLreporter:
NHL has called a supplimental hearing for JVoracek for 4 PM this afternoon and is probably looking at a 3 game suspension for the Philly winger for disrupting a Red Wing scoring opp with his injury shan-an-igans.

I wonder how Jake is feeling today.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Mar 7 @ 2:06 PM ET
Any word on Jake yet? I see that Jagr, Timonen and Mezzy will all miss tomorrow's game.
- Duran76


He'll be evaluated again tomorrow. As of now, he says, he feels OK. Says his neck is sore and mouth hurts (and is quite swollen) from the cut he sustained. But he was joking around, smiling and otherwise looking better than you'd expect the day after getting knocked for a loop like that.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:07 PM ET
THERE IS NO JUSTICE IN THE NHL. IT'S ALL BASED ON BUDDY BUDDY CRAP. BRENDAN SHANAHAN IS A FRAUD AND HAS ZERO INTEGRITY.
- flyerscup2011

Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 7 @ 2:07 PM ET
He'll be evaluated again tomorrow. As of now, he says, he feels OK. Says his neck is sore and mouth hurts (and is quite swollen) from the cut he sustained. But he was joking around, smiling and otherwise looking better than you'd expect the day after getting knocked for a loop like that.
- bmeltzer

love this kid
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 7 @ 2:08 PM ET
That hit is nothing close to the Kronwall hit imo. Downie drills a player coming around the net and leaves his skates. He also is moving full speed at the player. I agree with you. You have to be insane to think its similar.
- stveshdy


knew i could count on u
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Mar 7 @ 2:08 PM ET
Briere has done a lot of great things for the Flyers in past regular seasons; and he's done a lot of outstanding things for the Flyers in past postseasons. Let's see if he can work himself out of this current slump - because as absurd as it sounds, hockey players do experience peaks and valleys.
- BoomGoesTheCoburn


I think if we weren't so banged up Briere should be a HS for a game to 2 to wake his butt up.... Say all you want about being a past Hero's, but look on other teams... Knuble was a HS this year.... Kovalchuk was last year... Briere doesnt play D... If he isnt scoring.... He should be sitting..
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:09 PM ET
He'll be evaluated again tomorrow. As of now, he says, he feels OK. Says his neck is sore and mouth hurts (and is quite swollen) from the cut he sustained. But he was joking around, smiling and otherwise looking better than you'd expect the day after getting knocked for a loop like that.
- bmeltzer

That's good to hear, I hope he stays symptom free. Do you think he'll be held out tomorrow at this point?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 7 @ 2:09 PM ET
I will attempt to summarize the last 17 hours of talk here, from ALL possible angles:





Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 7 @ 2:09 PM ET
love this kid
- Crimsoninja

He was causing havoc on the forecheck last night until the hit.

I sure hope they re sign him, I love him too.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:10 PM ET
knew i could count on u
- OrangeBlack27


No problem.
BoomGoesTheCoburn
Location: The Land of the Rising Sun
Joined: 10.27.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:10 PM ET
I will attempt to summarize the last 17 hours of talk here, from ALL possible angles:






- Flyskippy


You never disappoint, Skip.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Mar 7 @ 2:10 PM ET
I will attempt to summarize the last 17 hours of talk here, from ALL possible angles:






- Flyskippy




2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 7 @ 2:11 PM ET
Not predatory imo. Not in this instance. You are taught to make that hit since you're 12 years old.
- rockychocbill

some places used to teach racism doesn't mean it's right
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Mar 7 @ 2:12 PM ET
He'll be evaluated again tomorrow. As of now, he says, he feels OK. Says his neck is sore and mouth hurts (and is quite swollen) from the cut he sustained. But he was joking around, smiling and otherwise looking better than you'd expect the day after getting knocked for a loop like that.
- bmeltzer


That's a tough noggin he's got there then. Be good to see him come out unscathed.
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