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stevecarpetman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 1:41 AM ET
the allaire stuff is a wash, he works with what he has. two goalies with battered confidence, in my opinion, due to improper use by the coach. the slumps started when one goalie rode the pine for 2 weeks, just to bail the other out. won't go there... but BB is the one who endorsed riding 2 goalies this season with a combined probably 100 career starts. just saying.

the kadri thing is touch and go with me. i think he should've been developed slowly, but his use in the nhl in the meantime has been mismanaged. logan couture says it's allright though..

the playoff stance i get.. but i think it's dependent on the situation. i understand that it's not a matter of choice, you don't choose whether to miss or not. you're bang on the losing culture stance, but it could have it's negatives. my entire theory on it is based on how BB handles the deadline, and how wilson handles things going forward. a poor mentality going in, and a slaughter in the playoffs could set the team back years.. but it could absolutely go the other way. all foresight though...

- joel878


Allaire does cause a bit of a situation. Any veteran we bring in has to be set to his system as that is what he is trying to teach the kids. Both were good junior goaltenders, and had great success when they first arrived but have struggled the longer they've been on the Leafs.

Gustavsson has not benefited from Allaire's teaching at all, Reimer is naturally a Allaire type butterfly goalie but has not been right since the concussion. Something was brought up tonight during the game about how Reimer makes himself smaller like Niemi does. I thought that was an incredibly weird consept for percentage playing butterfly goalie. I thought it must be about deception to the shooter, which allows for popping at the last second, much like a blow fish. I did not see that tonight, he plays smaller than his frame, which is why his glove looks so akward most nights. Scrivens has the same glove which leads me to ask, are they teaching them to be weak gloved blocking goalies?
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 24 @ 1:44 AM ET
Nabby anyone? For our first?
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 24 @ 1:44 AM ET
Nabby anyone? For our first?
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:44 AM ET
How come it's alright to comment on his "irish pride" or "irish stubbornness" but can't mention anything about jewish traits or black traits?
- weirdoh


Because the Irish have been in this country in larger numbers for a larger time than any of those two. They've worked their way into the national fabric of this country in a very significant way. Plus being a politically correct age the irish aren't part of an identifiable victims group like the aforementioned people you speak of.

Plus BBs spoken of his irish heritage on many occasions, and how patience is not a great trait of his
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Feb 24 @ 1:44 AM ET
Nabby anyone? For our first?
- mr.peanut




I hate you
stevecarpetman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.05.2011

Feb 24 @ 1:45 AM ET
A potential 6-10 pick for a 36 year old goalie that may or may not help the Leafs make the playoffs, and when there might help them go on a cinderella run like the Habs did or whomever. Well worth the risk where do I sign?
- weirdoh


I wasn't saying go after him. He wouldn't fit in our system, but he does have a 940 save percentage. Pretty good for today's NHL
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Feb 24 @ 1:45 AM ET
Because the Irish have been in this country in larger numbers for a larger time than any of those two. They've worked their way into the national fabric of this country in a very significant way. Plus being a politically correct age the irish aren't part of an identifiable victims group like the aforementioned people you speak of.

Plus BBs spoken of his irish heritage on many occasions, and how patience is not a great trait of his

- AngryWhiteMale



I'm sure PK has spoken with some of his friends about his virtues.
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:46 AM ET
Nabby anyone? For our first?
- mr.peanut


No


No.


As I said, goaltending was not the issue tonight. We lack a legit no. 1 centre. In the games Reimer's started post all-star I don't think he's really blown a game for us. It's just that tonight our offensive zone presence was non-existent except for our glorified thrid line of Connolly-Lombo-Crabb
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Feb 24 @ 1:47 AM ET
I wasn't saying go after him. He wouldn't fit in our system, but he does have a 940 save percentage. Pretty good for today's NHL
- stevecarpetman




thank christ.
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:47 AM ET
I'm sure PK has spoken with some of his friends about his virtues.
- weirdoh


Once he gets traded to California those traits will speak for themselves.

Like I said, we live in a poltiically correct age..


can't do jack about that
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 24 @ 1:47 AM ET
I wish I could say that would be the last straw for me, but unfortunately I'm a whore and will keep coming back..but (frank) me it wouldn't sit well.
- weirdoh

i know. theyre going to rape next game. then ill be content again. Stockholm syndrome
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 24 @ 1:49 AM ET
How come it's alright to comment on his "irish pride" or "irish stubbornness" but can't mention anything about jewish traits or black traits?
- weirdoh


... Because the Irish don't give a sh1t about all of the overly sensitive politically correct bullsh1t that much of today's society has succumbed to.

Does that answer your question?
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 24 @ 1:49 AM ET
No


No.


As I said, goaltending was not the issue tonight. We lack a legit no. 1 centre. In the games Reimer's started post all-star I don't think he's really blown a game for us. It's just that tonight our offensive zone presence was non-existent except for our glorified thrid line of Connolly-Lombo-Crabb

- AngryWhiteMale

Centre is not the teams issue.
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:50 AM ET
Allaire does cause a bit of a situation. Any veteran we bring in has to be set to his system as that is what he is trying to teach the kids. Both were good junior goaltenders, and had great success when they first arrived but have struggled the longer they've been on the Leafs.

Gustavsson has not benefited from Allaire's teaching at all, Reimer is naturally a Allaire type butterfly goalie but has not been right since the concussion. Something was brought up tonight during the game about how Reimer makes himself smaller like Niemi does. I thought that was an incredibly weird consept for percentage playing butterfly goalie. I thought it must be about deception to the shooter, which allows for popping at the last second, much like a blow fish. I did not see that tonight, he plays smaller than his frame, which is why his glove looks so akward most nights. Scrivens has the same glove which leads me to ask, are they teaching them to be weak gloved blocking goalies?

- stevecarpetman


I remember TSN analysts commenting on Price a few years back, saying how the Habs goalie coach was telling Price that he was holding his glove too low for his own good and that it needed to be raised to make himself bigger.

I'm not sold on allaire for Reimer. Gusti was technially unsuited for NHL hockey when he came over, and Allaire did fix quite a few things, but Reimer shouldn't be a playing percentages, he should be focusing on weaknesses, and how they to improve them
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 24 @ 1:50 AM ET
Nabby would really help put our team over the top, I do not care what weirdoh says, he is a Habs fan anyways.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 24 @ 1:51 AM ET
Because the Irish have been in this country in larger numbers for a larger time than any of those two. They've worked their way into the national fabric of this country in a very significant way. Plus being a politically correct age the irish aren't part of an identifiable victims group like the aforementioned people you speak of.

Plus BBs spoken of his irish heritage on many occasions, and how patience is not a great trait of his

- AngryWhiteMale


DING! DING! DING!
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:51 AM ET
Centre is not the teams issue.
- mr.peanut


good point,

we lost 2-1 tonight. Not because we didn't score 2 or more goals, but because Nabokov wasn't here at a steep price to keep them from scoring at all in the first place
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 24 @ 1:53 AM ET
I'm sure PK has spoken with some of his friends about his virtues.
- weirdoh

Hit, Shoot, and do not Pass go, Go Directly to Jail
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 24 @ 1:54 AM ET
good point,

we lost 2-1 tonight. Not because we didn't score 2 or more goals, but because Nabokov wasn't here at a steep price to keep them from scoring at all in the first place

- AngryWhiteMale

Yes choose just tonights game, You realize that scoring isn't the teams problem every game? Look at the top scorers, you clearly are a Reimer apologist.
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:58 AM ET
Yes choose just tonights game, You realize that scoring isn't the teams problem every game? Look at the top scorers, you clearly are a Reimer apologist.
- mr.peanut


We had no sustained pressure tonight. Our third line was all that we had for the longest time. We had no big body in front of the SJ net.

It wasn't goaltending, to imply so belies ignorance. I would suggest googling that word, in fact, I would reccommend it
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Feb 24 @ 2:00 AM ET
good night you stinkin' racists.
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 24 @ 2:00 AM ET
We had no sustained pressure tonight. Our third line was all that we had for the longest time. We had no big body in front of the SJ net.

It wasn't goaltending, to imply so belies ignorance. I would suggest googling that word, in fact, I would reccommend it

- AngryWhiteMale

But just tonight?
Because on Tuesday what was the problem?
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Feb 24 @ 2:01 AM ET
good night you stinkin' racists.
- weirdoh


Later fellow cracker
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 24 @ 2:01 AM ET
Question.

If the Leafs had a legit #1 goalie from the start of the season, how many more points do you think that the Leafs would have? 5 more points? 10 more points? 15 more points? How many?

Answer that question and then look where the Leafs would be in the standings...

Then ask yourself, "is a #1 goalie or a #1 center the priority?"

The answer should be pretty clear after this excerise.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 24 @ 2:02 AM ET
good night you stinkin' racists.
- weirdoh


Top o' the mornin' to ya!
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