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Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Mar 29 @ 12:32 PM ET
Random question...is top shelf 15 over the age of 20?
- senstroll


Is that the best rebuttal to his comments?? You're better than that.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 29 @ 12:36 PM ET
How many times has Karlsson "needed to be bailed out"?



Where is the link to this stat?




Without you ever watching Karlsson play this season, all you can do is wonder. We who watch him play don't see what you are "wondering" about.





Far more than who? Where are the links to your stats to back up your "wondering"

Instead of trolling, back up your opinions with links to the stats sites that you rely on.

- Doppleganger



nhl.com, dumba$$.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 29 @ 12:37 PM ET
Is that the best rebuttal to his comments?? You're better than that.
- Doppleganger

Do you honestly believe his posts deserve rebuttals at all?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 29 @ 12:41 PM ET
Is that the best rebuttal to his comments?? You're better than that.
- Doppleganger


I would like to know, I wasn't rebutting anything. If you notice I have not really been in this discussion, but was reading over some of the responses and I get the feeling he/she is young.

If the question offends you, let them answer it
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Mar 29 @ 12:43 PM ET
nhl.com, dumba$$.
- prock



So you ADMIT that you have not seen Karlsson play this season. Totally negates any argument you make against him, and proves it's a hate driven opinion.

Thanks for the clarification.
Asquaredx2
Ottawa Senators
Location: Oh no I wasn't so stfu and I'm
Joined: 02.18.2007

Mar 29 @ 12:59 PM ET
Posted this in another thread but it applies here:

In terms of GVT, the only skaters in the NHL who are ahead of Karlsson are Malkin, Stamkos, and Giroux. The rest are goalies.

http://hockeyprospectus.com/sortable/
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Mar 29 @ 12:59 PM ET
Dopps, should Karlsson in your opinion win the Norris?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
Posted this in another thread but it applies here:

In terms of GVT, the only skaters in the NHL who are ahead of Karlsson are Malkin, Stamkos, and Giroux. The rest are goalies.

http://hockeyprospectus.com/sortable/

- Asquaredx2


Whoa Elliot is more valuable to his team than Karlsson... how did the sens let him slip away
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 29 @ 1:14 PM ET
So you ADMIT that you have not seen Karlsson play this season. Totally negates any argument you make against him, and proves it's a hate driven opinion.

Thanks for the clarification.

- Doppleganger



You asked me where I found a stat. I answered. How, in your limited intellect, does that equate to proving I've never seen him play this season? Honestly, please answer that.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 29 @ 1:16 PM ET
Whoa Elliot is more valuable to his team than Karlsson... how did the sens let him slip away
- senstroll



I do enjoy Kessel over Datsyuk, though.

I'd also like to point out that the Leafs have Grabovski, Connolly, Bozak ahead of Turris on that list. 4th line centre for the Leafs? If he's lucky.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 29 @ 1:30 PM ET
I do enjoy Kessel over Datsyuk, though.

I'd also like to point out that the Leafs have Grabovski, Connolly, Bozak ahead of Turris on that list. 4th line centre for the Leafs? If he's lucky.

- prock



Joey Crabb is ahead of Turris
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 29 @ 1:34 PM ET
Joey Crabb is ahead of Turris
- senstroll



rightfully so.
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Mar 29 @ 1:57 PM ET
Joey Crabb is ahead of Turris
- senstroll


I think Crabb has to be the most underrated Leaf
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 29 @ 2:07 PM ET
I think Crabb has to be the most underrated Leaf
- mfreedman



Didn't Wilson say at one point "this guy is too good to be playing in the AHL" about him?
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Mar 29 @ 2:11 PM ET
Didn't Wilson say at one point "this guy is too good to be playing in the AHL" about him?
- prock


I would believe that

He is a solid 3rd liner imo. I would play him ahead of Connolly, Army, Lombo, Steckel, at the moment. Heck, reunite him with Colborne ont he 3rd line, they were doing damn well together in the AHL.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 29 @ 2:15 PM ET
I would believe that

He is a solid 3rd liner imo. I would play him ahead of Connolly, Army, Lombo, Steckel, at the moment. Heck, reunite him with Colborne ont he 3rd line, they were doing damn well together in the AHL.

- mfreedman



At which point Turris would then be behind 4 Leaf centres, and back with the Marlies. (if he were a Leaf)
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 29 @ 2:15 PM ET
I think Crabb has to be the most underrated Leaf
- mfreedman


He must be very valuable then, Turris is the reason the sens are in the playoffs, solid Defensively and helps pack the equipment on the bus.

ok..im done I swear

That is a great list though..
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Mar 29 @ 2:18 PM ET
At which point Turris would then be behind 4 Leaf centres, and back with the Marlies. (if he were a Leaf)
- prock




I actually think that Turris can become a solid 2nd line player.

If he was here he would probably be int he minors, but that is not a knock on his skill. It is more the fact that it seems like Burke wants the young guys to mature in the minors for a while, so they aren't rushed to the team.

Kadri, Colborne, Blacker, etc.. will be solid contributors eventually.

Frattin is up at 23, and it seems like it was a good move to hold off for a bit.

Say what you want about the team, but this with what we have in place currently, and the pick we are about to get, I'm liking the direction... Now if only the next 5 months would fly by
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 29 @ 2:25 PM ET


I actually think that Turris can become a solid 2nd line player.

If he was here he would probably be int he minors, but that is not a knock on his skill. It is more the fact that it seems like Burke wants the young guys to mature in the minors for a while, so they aren't rushed to the team.

Kadri, Colborne, Blacker, etc.. will be solid contributors eventually.

Frattin is up at 23, and it seems like it was a good move to hold off for a bit.

Say what you want about the team, but this with what we have in place currently, and the pick we are about to get, I'm liking the direction... Now if only the next 5 months would fly by

- mfreedman


I like Blacker. Solid contributor to 2 Mem cup teams. Has played the role on top defensive guy on a one of them, and top puck mover on another.

He has the potential to develop into a very solid Dman.
mfreedman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 10.04.2010

Mar 29 @ 2:28 PM ET
I like Blacker. Solid contributor to 2 Mem cup teams. Has played the role on top defensive guy on a one of them, and top puck mover on another.

He has the potential to develop into a very solid Dman.

- prock


Agreed. I'd like him to replace Phaneuf

3 years down the road:

?????-?????
Gardiner-Schenn
Franson-Blacker
Holzer/Percy
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Mar 29 @ 2:40 PM ET
Random question...is top shelf 15 over the age of 20?
- senstroll
WTF does that have anything to do with what we are discussing??
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Mar 29 @ 2:41 PM ET
Do you honestly believe his posts deserve rebuttals at all?
- prock

I have proven you wrong on a few occasions
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 29 @ 2:45 PM ET
I have proven you wrong on a few occasions
- top shelf 15



Sure. You're a legend in your own mind.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 29 @ 2:45 PM ET
WTF does that have anything to do with what we are discussing??
- top shelf 15


It has nothing to do with the topic itself

just curious.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Mar 29 @ 2:46 PM ET
Sure. You're a legend in your own mind.
- prock

Not my fault you are not man enough to admit it ,i man up when iam wrong too bad you dont
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