Again living in the past. It's not about making the playoffs right away. That would have been nice, and BB admitted he thought they were closer when he came in than they were. He and everyone else has moved on and forward since then. Prospects will keep us in the playoffs year after year once we are ready. Getting in this year would be nice, but this team is still being put together, piece by piece. You obviously are not a patient person
- Leafs24seven

So when are they putting up the statue of Burke infront of the ACC?

Yup, we should get Carter, Moen and Harding..... if we do that, we should be fine, if not, then it better be a busy off-season for Burke
- cor99

I don't understand how Nash supposedly fits on your team anyways; you guys have needed a 1C for a long time now, and Carter is 'available' possibly. Sure he's played like piss this year, but a line of Kessel-Carter-Lupul could be pretty scary.

Nash doesn't solve anything, and I honestly think you should trade Reimer while you can, his value is still high (and he has the potential to be good), but being the goaltending grave-yard that it is, playing in Toronto any longer might result in his value becoming next to nothing, even if he has the skill to be a starting tender.

Jonas seems to be a decent back-up, not sure he can amount to anything more than that.

Schenn for Harding?

How many blue chip prospects do the Leafs have honestly? Take of your blue and white goggles first.

And again this 2nd youngest crap means nothing. Stop it. It only makes your point invalid.
- mr.peanut

Gardiner, Kadri, Colborne, Aulie....

Those are our main prospects, and I'm not saying that we have a bunch of blue chippers, I'm saying we have a good amount of above averge prospects, and that we have a deep prospect pool that is one of the deepest in the league, if you actually read my comments....

And yes, a young team does mean something.... The fact that we are young, and are currently in a playoff spot means something, and doesn't make my point invalid at all

The fact that you think it means nothing questions how much you really know

I don't hate Burke, glad you assumed it. And no most Leafs thought Burke GM=Playoffs. His big claim to fame is signing Scott Neidermayer who wanted to play with his brother anyways, and giving the best package for Chris Pronger who wanted to Leave Edmonton anyways. But keep dreaming. Truculence baby!
- mr.peanut

I'd say his big claim to fame was getting Franson and Lombo for Lebda a close second is fleecing ANA for Gardiner & Lupal and 3rd fleecing CGY. But hay moving bad players and contracts isnt a sign of progress right? No dreaming here, I'm happy with what he has done and is doing..only thing that has changed for me in the past year is I now think a new coach is necessary after this season

well he did say "stay here" before
- dmarsden2988

You must be bored to come here and read two Leaf fans argue about Burke for 3 pages.

Stop with this, it means nothing!

And a cupboard full of average and above average prospects isn't much to brag about.
- mr.peanut

Wrong again on both accounts

I don't understand how Nash supposedly fits on your team anyways; you guys have needed a 1C for a long time now, and Carter is 'available' possibly. Sure he's played like piss this year, but a line of Kessel-Carter-Lupul could be pretty scary.

Nash doesn't solve anything, and I honestly think you should trade Reimer while you can, his value is still high (and he has the potential to be good), but being the goaltending grave-yard that it is, playing in Toronto any longer might result in his value becoming next to nothing, even if he has the skill to be a starting tender.

Jonas seems to be a decent back-up, not sure he can amount to anything more than that.

Schenn for Harding?
- ghostibator

Nash doesn't fit our team at all, he'd be nice to have for sure, but we need a 1C and that is what Carter is.

I personally wouldn't trade Reimer, and let Gusty walk to FA.

Get Harding and let him split time with Reims. And I wouldn't do Harding for Schenn because Harding is going to FA (likely) if he doesn't get traded.

I think maybe Rynnas and a pick/another prospect should get him if there's not a big market for him

Gardiner, Kadri, Colborne, Aulie....

Those are our main prospects, and I'm not saying that we have a bunch of blue chippers, I'm saying we have a good amount of above averge prospects, and that we have a deep prospect pool that is one of the deepest in the league, if you actually read my comments....

And yes, a young team does mean something.... The fact that we are young, and are currently in a playoff spot means something, and doesn't make my point invalid at all

The fact that you think it means nothing questions how much you really know
- cor99

Oh please.

It's not youth that counts it's the experience. Edmonton is the youngest team but they have no experience and little vetran presence which is why they are at the bottom. While Phaneuf, Kessel etc are young they've been playing since 18-19 in the NHL.
Now remember it is the experience that counts. Try to keep up.

Wrong again on both accounts
- Leafs24seven

Edmonton is the youngest, so why are they so much worse?

Carter "AND" Nash

So when are they putting up the statue of Burke infront of the ACC?
- mr.peanut

Same time you manage to graduate from high school...I know it could be awhile..but I am patient and can wait for either You have not had anything to say that backs up your clear distaste for the direction or state of the team or BB. Must be real bored this Sunday afternoon.
Anyways wish you all the best in your continued negative attitude..enjoy! Maybe the glasses you speak of are the ones you are wearing.

Oh please.

It's not youth that counts it's the experience. Edmonton is the youngest team but they have no experience and little vetran presence which is why they are at the bottom. While Phaneuf, Kessel etc are young they've been playing since 18-19 in the NHL.
Now remember it is the experience that counts. Try to keep up.
- mr.peanut

Gardiner, Aulie, Kadri, and Colborne will be good 1st or 2nd line guys in the future, not sure why you think different. Kadri just needs to be traded to a team where he can reach it.

Experience counts mainly in the playoffs. Hockey Players know how to play in the season, it's talent that gets them to the Playoffs, and experience helps them grind through playoff hockey.

We're a young, quick team, and we're in a playoff spot.

Being in the playoffs, with the 2nd youngest roster means something....

BTW, I'm ahead of you, I don't need to keep up

Same time you manage to graduate from high school...I know it could be awhile..but I am patient and can wait for either You have not had anything to say that backs up your clear distaste for the direction or state of the team or BB. Must be real bored this Sunday afternoon.
Anyways wish you all the best in your continued negative attitude..enjoy! Maybe the glasses you speak of are the ones you are wearing.
- Leafs24seven

Oh an education joke bravo BTW I finished high school and have my DEC from CEGEP. And what have you added to back up anything? 2nd youngest team average prospects OMG BURKIEIZDABEST!

Edmonton is the youngest, so why are they so much worse?
- mr.peanut

Because we have a better GM? You tell me you have all the answers today.

Edmonton is the youngest, so why are they so much worse?
- mr.peanut

Because we have a better GM? You tell me you have all the answers today.

Edmonton is the youngest, so why are they so much worse?
- mr.peanut

Colorado is #1, St. Louis $2, Edmonton #3, Toronto #4, Kings #5

BTW, Edmonton has good young players, but they have hit injuries, poor goaltending, and their vets are under preforming

Gardiner, Aulie, Kadri, and Colborne will be good 1st or 2nd line guys in the future, not sure why you think different. Kadri just needs to be traded to a team where he can reach it.

Experience counts mainly in the playoffs. Hockey Players know how to play in the season, it's talent that gets them to the Playoffs, and experience helps them grind through playoff hockey.

We're a young, quick team, and we're in a playoff spot.

Being in the playoffs, with the 2nd youngest roster means something....

BTW, I'm ahead of you, I don't need to keep up
- cor99

You're lost, and I'm not sure anyone can help, vetran experience helps develo the youth on the team. Who's been the best d-man? Liles. Who's been the best fowards Lupul and Kessel both have been playing for a while.

Colorado is #1, St. Louis $2, Edmonton #3, Toronto #4, Kings #5

BTW, Edmonton has good young players, but they have hit injuries, poor goaltending, and their vets are under preforming
- cor99

So Toronto isn't infact the 2nd youngest, so you've based your point on something that wasn't true?

You're lost, and I'm not sure anyone can help, vetran experience helps develo the youth on the team. Who's been the best d-man? Liles. Who's been the best fowards Lupul and Kessel both have been playing for a while.
- mr.peanut

I'm not arguing that experience means nothing, I'm saying that being the NHL's 4th youngest team, and possibly making the playoffs means something, where you seems to think it doesn't.

So Toronto isn't infact the 2nd youngest, so you've based your point on something that wasn't true?
- mr.peanut

So Edmonton isn't infact the youngest, so you've based your point on something that wasn't true?

Oh an education joke bravo BTW I finished high school and have my DEC from CEGEP. And what have you added to back up anything? 2nd youngest team average prospects OMG BURKIEIZDABEST!
- mr.peanut

I never added either of those..that the other guy you are annoying. With those credentials I figured you would have know that already.

I'm not arguing that experience means nothing, I'm saying that being the NHL's 4th youngest team, and possibly making the playoffs means something, where you seems to think it doesn't.
- cor99

So while being the now 4th youngest is struggling to keep a spot, The Blues who are the second youngest are doing much better, but it isn't the youth there of course it is the coaching and solid goaltending.

So Edmonton isn't infact the youngest, so you've based your point on something that wasn't true?
- cor99

Sorry I don't reseach team's youth to make up for poor play.

I never added either of those..that the other guy you are annoying. With those credentials I figured you would have know that already.
- Leafs24seven

It's all I've heard, sorry if I mixed it up. The youth junk gets annoying and repetitive, it means nothing.

So while being the now 4th youngest is struggling to keep a spot, The Blues who are the second youngest are doing much better, but it isn't the youth there of course it is the coaching and solid goaltending.
- mr.peanut

They are barely struggling, if it wasn't for these past two weeks, we are possibly in 7th and no one is calling for the end of the world.

Your one of those fans that are just ass-hurt because we got our asses handed to last night,