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weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Feb 1 @ 11:40 PM ET
so every team owner and president who has not given him a job in the past 20+ years has a personal beef with him?
- dt99999




Pretty much. They've all been pissed off that he said the player they drafted in the first round was a bonafide star. And when that didn't happen they figured he was just leading them on. They all hate him.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:41 PM ET
We've both listened to that station for awhile, I think it is safe to say that Melnick probably knows the least about sports on that station. Besides Melnick considers McGuire a good friend, so why would this plea to get his chum a job be taken seriously?
- mr.peanut



close tie between him and Randy Tieman
mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 1 @ 11:42 PM ET
Pretty much. They've all been pissed off that he said the player they drafted in the first round was a bonafide star. And when that didn't happen they figured he was just leading them on. They all hate him.
- weirdoh

The Habs don't want him because he said that they made the stupidest 1st round pick in 2005.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:44 PM ET
The Habs don't want him because he said that they made the stupidest 1st round pick in 2005.
- mr.peanut


I know what a bust that guy turned out to be.



also,



pretty sure this had more to do with




than it did with

mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 1 @ 11:44 PM ET
close tie between him and Randy Tieman
- dt99999

You'd think that a Montreal sports station would be able to get some former players to have shows. Say what you want about Stock, but who'd you rather hear, him who has played the game or a bunch of biased fan boys?
mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 1 @ 11:45 PM ET
I know what a bust that guy turned out to be.



also,




- dt99999

He loves to show that off.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:45 PM ET
You'd think that a Montreal sports station would be able to get some former players to have shows. Say what you want about Stock, but who'd you rather hear, him who has played the game or a bunch of biased fan boys?
- mr.peanut


The only person with NHL game experience on that network is CHris Nilan and he's a (frank)ing junkie
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:46 PM ET
He loves to show that off.
- mr.peanut



"when I coached the penguins"
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Feb 1 @ 11:47 PM ET
The only person with NHL game experience on that network is CHris Nilan and he's a (frank)ing junkie
- dt99999




"Fighting is bad, they should stop making money doing the only thing I ever knew what to do"
mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 1 @ 11:47 PM ET
The only person with NHL game experience on that network is CHris Nilan and he's a (frank)ing junkie
- dt99999

Exactly, btw TypMelnick arguement tactic:
If you don't think McGuire would be a good GM you're either:
a) Know nothing about hockey, or
b) An idiot.
mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 1 @ 11:48 PM ET
"when I coached the penguins"
- dt99999

He did all the work, one could say he made Jagr.
mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 1 @ 11:48 PM ET
"Fighting is bad, they should stop making money doing the only thing I ever knew what to do"
- weirdoh

That works with Laraque as well.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:51 PM ET
He did all the work, one could say he made Jagr.
- mr.peanut


he is the mastermind behind Christopher Pronger
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:53 PM ET
Exactly, btw TypMelnick arguement tactic:
If you don't think McGuire would be a good GM you're either:
a) Know nothing about hockey, or
b) An idiot.

- mr.peanut



thanks for the call... next caller..... hi hopefully you can agree with me make some sense
mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 1 @ 11:53 PM ET
he is the mastermind behind Christopher Pronger
- dt99999

He either says the full name or adds a y at the end of every players name.
mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 1 @ 11:54 PM ET
thanks for the call... next caller..... hi hopefully you can agree with me make some sense
- dt99999

Let me play some Bob Dylan first.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:54 PM ET
Let me play some Bob Dylan first.
- mr.peanut



oh now Bill Lee is on let's talk about some stuff nobody cares about or about my summer at fantasy ball camp... yay
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:55 PM ET
He either says the full name or adds a y at the end of every players name.
- mr.peanut

what a female genitalia... oh well mith... oh hi! that wasn NHL general manager George McPhee. YEAH I'm ON MONTREAL RADIO GEORGE
mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
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Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 1 @ 11:56 PM ET
oh now Bill Lee is on let's talk about some stuff nobody cares about or about my summer at fantasy ball camp... yay
- dt99999

I think I've heard Lee tell the same stories more than 5 times.
mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 1 @ 11:56 PM ET
what a female genitalia... oh well mith... oh hi! that wasn NHL general manager George McPhee. YEAH I'm ON MONTREAL RADIO GEORGE
- dt99999

dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 1 @ 11:57 PM ET
I think I've heard Lee tell the same stories more than 5 times.
- mr.peanut

in one show...







btw:


kushmansFeb 1, 2012 08:05 PM

Mcguire was my choice when Bob Gainey stepped down and still is today. His hockey knowledge whether it's juniors,ncaa,swiss elite,khl,whl,echl or nhl is ridiculous. As a huge fan of Bill James, I hold Mcguire in that high regard. No one is perfect but Pierre comes offely close in player evaluation. A lot of the time he's over emphasizes certain points, but kind of his job as a media guy.

Make no mistake though, he is well respected with both players and management, however there seems to be a disconnect when it comes to ownership (some leftover annymosity perhaps from Hartford).

The time is now for Pierre to really just throw his name out there and see if it lands. As a Habs fan I want him here, but as a fan of the NHL, he would truly revolutionize the GM position.

He understands every aspect of this sport and like Bill James it took MLB years to realize his worth.....lets make it happen!

Mr. Melnick very rarely gets infatuated or attached to candidates because he finds it difficult to stay objective. That just solidifies my personal opinion of Mcguire because if he could get Melnick he must be qualified.


mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 1 @ 11:58 PM ET
in one show...







btw:


kushmansFeb 1, 2012 08:05 PM

Mcguire was my choice when Bob Gainey stepped down and still is today. His hockey knowledge whether it's juniors,ncaa,swiss elite,khl,whl,echl or nhl is ridiculous. As a huge fan of Bill James, I hold Mcguire in that high regard. No one is perfect but Pierre comes offely close in player evaluation. A lot of the time he's over emphasizes certain points, but kind of his job as a media guy.

Make no mistake though, he is well respected with both players and management, however there seems to be a disconnect when it comes to ownership (some leftover annymosity perhaps from Hartford).

The time is now for Pierre to really just throw his name out there and see if it lands. As a Habs fan I want him here, but as a fan of the NHL, he would truly revolutionize the GM position.

He understands every aspect of this sport and like Bill James it took MLB years to realize his worth.....lets make it happen!

Mr. Melnick very rarely gets infatuated or attached to candidates because he finds it difficult to stay objective. That just solidifies my personal opinion of Mcguire because if he could get Melnick he must be qualified.



- dt99999



Oh my (frank), I'm sure that's Mitch himself, just like teachers who themselves on RateMyTeacher.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 2 @ 12:00 AM ET


Oh my (frank), I'm sure that's Mitch himself, just like teachers who themselves on RateMyTeacher.

- mr.peanut



this guy isn't buying it:


SeriousFan09Feb 1, 2012 01:16 AM

I seem to recall Pierre Mcguire saying the 2005-2006 Canadiens were set in net with Theodore, Huet and Yann Denis at the 2005 Draft. Oops.

Pierre Mcguire says manage expectations regarding PK Subban. Fine, but he shouldn't say a prospect like Dmitri Orlov, yet to play a game in the National Hockey League during one of his TSN 990 appearances that Orlov is the next Sergei Zubov. Or that NYR prospect Chris Kreider was 'ripping up and shredding' NCAA Hockey, when he had 47 points over 70 games in his first two seasons when the quote was delivered. If he doesn't think PK Subban should be blown up as a bonafide superstar prospect fine, he shouldn't inflate the status of other team prospects to belittle the Canadiens.

Pierre Mcguire in the 2009-10 season calling a Maple Leafs game: Toronto has a solid "Big Four" of Luke Schenn, Mike Komisarek, Tomas Kaberle and Francois Beauchemain. Two have been dealt away, Komisarek is considered one of the worst contracts in the NHL and Luke Schenn is being talked as being the odd man out in Toronto of late. This is also the year he said the Maple Leafs would be the most improved team in the East. They finished 29th overall and handed Tyler Seguin to the Boston Bruins. Somehow the Great Pierre Mcguire did not consider Vesa Toskala as a starting goaltender was a giant red flag.

Max Pacioretty, playing a pre-season game against the Detroit Red Wings in the 2008-2009 year was ready for the NHL according to Pierre Mcguire on TV. If he'd said that in 2010-11, he might have been on to something.

On your program, Mcguire stated Montreal had no elite centre, but cited a natural RW, Patrick Sharp as an example. True he sometimes plays at centre but elite? No.

The master of 'managed expectations' said Drew Doughty had the hockey IQ of Ray Bourque and the body of Denis Potvin more than once during the 2010 Olympics. Yes, that's managing expectations when you compare a player to two of the greatest defencemen in league history. One who has a whopping 3 points on PK Subban, while getting an extra minute of PP time a game this seaon with the benefit of two years of NHL experience on Subban. Doughty also has the advantage of having a teammate like Jack Johnson to carry responsibilities of carrying offence from the back end, Subban is far more a man alone on that front.

If Mcguire can't call things the way they are because he wants to play people-pleaser/armchair GM, that is his right. But I will not trust him to run a hockey club if that is how easily he will compromise the integrity of the vast hockey knowledge he apparently has.

TSN 990 may keep quotes of Mcguire, but some of us also remember when he's dead wrong or making wild speculations and keep those statements in mind.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 2 @ 12:01 AM ET


Oh my (frank), I'm sure that's Mitch himself, just like teachers who themselves on RateMyTeacher.

- mr.peanut




or when Marinaro gets all his wop neighbors from Lasalle to call in to say how awesome he is in exchange for Dilallo burgers....
mr.peanut
Utah Hockey Club
Location: Generational Poster, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Feb 2 @ 12:03 AM ET
this guy isn't buying it:


SeriousFan09Feb 1, 2012 01:16 AM

I seem to recall Pierre Mcguire saying the 2005-2006 Canadiens were set in net with Theodore, Huet and Yann Denis at the 2005 Draft. Oops.

Pierre Mcguire says manage expectations regarding PK Subban. Fine, but he shouldn't say a prospect like Dmitri Orlov, yet to play a game in the National Hockey League during one of his TSN 990 appearances that Orlov is the next Sergei Zubov. Or that NYR prospect Chris Kreider was 'ripping up and shredding' NCAA Hockey, when he had 47 points over 70 games in his first two seasons when the quote was delivered. If he doesn't think PK Subban should be blown up as a bonafide superstar prospect fine, he shouldn't inflate the status of other team prospects to belittle the Canadiens.

Pierre Mcguire in the 2009-10 season calling a Maple Leafs game: Toronto has a solid "Big Four" of Luke Schenn, Mike Komisarek, Tomas Kaberle and Francois Beauchemain. Two have been dealt away, Komisarek is considered one of the worst contracts in the NHL and Luke Schenn is being talked as being the odd man out in Toronto of late. This is also the year he said the Maple Leafs would be the most improved team in the East. They finished 29th overall and handed Tyler Seguin to the Boston Bruins. Somehow the Great Pierre Mcguire did not consider Vesa Toskala as a starting goaltender was a giant red flag.

Max Pacioretty, playing a pre-season game against the Detroit Red Wings in the 2008-2009 year was ready for the NHL according to Pierre Mcguire on TV. If he'd said that in 2010-11, he might have been on to something.

On your program, Mcguire stated Montreal had no elite centre, but cited a natural RW, Patrick Sharp as an example. True he sometimes plays at centre but elite? No.

The master of 'managed expectations' said Drew Doughty had the hockey IQ of Ray Bourque and the body of Denis Potvin more than once during the 2010 Olympics. Yes, that's managing expectations when you compare a player to two of the greatest defencemen in league history. One who has a whopping 3 points on PK Subban, while getting an extra minute of PP time a game this seaon with the benefit of two years of NHL experience on Subban. Doughty also has the advantage of having a teammate like Jack Johnson to carry responsibilities of carrying offence from the back end, Subban is far more a man alone on that front.

If Mcguire can't call things the way they are because he wants to play people-pleaser/armchair GM, that is his right. But I will not trust him to run a hockey club if that is how easily he will compromise the integrity of the vast hockey knowledge he apparently has.

TSN 990 may keep quotes of Mcguire, but some of us also remember when he's dead wrong or making wild speculations and keep those statements in mind.

- dt99999

#truthbomb
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