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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 30 @ 8:51 AM ET
We still owe them for the Zhitnik-Coburn trade...


- leon neon


Oh God hahaha..

Well, Homer could REALLY use another steal of that nature in order to replenish the D. I hope some teams that are close to missing the playoffs and under pressure to make them start to panic and give Homer a call. I see the Leafs in that situation. A five game losing streak out of the break could set Burkie into panic mode.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 8:52 AM ET
Sestito, Homstrom and HarryZ re-called
- Buts16



This squad has played some hard nosed hockey of late.. and thats exactly what they will need tomorrow night..
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jan 30 @ 8:55 AM ET
They Leafs players were not loved
- Buts16


Normally, this stuff doesn't bother me... And, I have no love for the Leafs. But, I thought it was down-right rude. Especially, during the draft - Every time Lupul spoke... It's similar to what I tell my kidz... Once is funny, twice is old news, more than three time is just not funny, irritating, and rude.
Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 30 @ 8:59 AM ET
Normally, this stuff doesn't bother me... And, I have no love for the Leafs. But, I thought it was down-right rude. Especially, during the draft - Every time Lupul spoke... It's similar to what I tell my kidz... Once is funny, twice is old news, more than three time is just not funny, irritating, and rude.
- leon neon


the draft part bothered me as well, sounded like the crowd from the Springer show.

Buts16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: big masters of the puck
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 30 @ 9:00 AM ET
Normally, this stuff doesn't bother me... And, I have no love for the Leafs. But, I thought it was down-right rude. Especially, during the draft - Every time Lupul spoke... It's similar to what I tell my kidz... Once is funny, twice is old news, more than three time is just not funny, irritating, and rude.
- leon neon


very rude at the draft.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jan 30 @ 9:02 AM ET
Oh God hahaha..

Well, Homer could REALLY use another steal of that nature in order to replenish the D. I hope some teams that are close to missing the playoffs and under pressure to make them start to panic and give Homer a call. I see the Leafs in that situation. A five game losing streak out of the break could set Burkie into panic mode.

- Hextall271


The problem is that we don't really have a "Zhitnik" type - old reliable experienced player without a NTC/NMC. Zhitnik was not to bad while playing for us, although he went downhill quick. I think we're in the market for a "Zhitnik", I hope Homer has the smarts not to trade youth for him.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 30 @ 9:33 AM ET
The problem is that we don't really have a "Zhitnik" type - old reliable experienced player without a NTC/NMC. Zhitnik was not to bad while playing for us, although he went downhill quick. I think we're in the market for a "Zhitnik", I hope Homer has the smarts not to trade youth for him.
- leon neon


Good point. I don't see anyway Homer mortgages any part of the future for a win now. I can see the future going in the offseason for a Weber or Suter, but no way he gives a 1st for Gleason etc.. He just restocked the cupboards at least at the NHL level.. why turn around and empty them again when we haven't proven to be a top contender. 2 years from now, we'll be a force if he sorts out the D.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 30 @ 9:33 AM ET
the draft part bothered me as well, sounded like the crowd from the Springer show.
- Buts16


The crowd was comprised of drunken morons that I could see..
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 30 @ 9:39 AM ET
Normally, this stuff doesn't bother me... And, I have no love for the Leafs. But, I thought it was down-right rude. Especially, during the draft - Every time Lupul spoke... It's similar to what I tell my kidz... Once is funny, twice is old news, more than three time is just not funny, irritating, and rude.
- leon neon


I wouldnt mind the Boo once or twice, just because its a rivalry, but to boo every time, and try to boo through his picks were just aweful. But some fans ruin it for all.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 9:40 AM ET
I wouldnt mind the Boo once or twice, just because its a rivalry, but to boo every time, and try to boo through his picks were just aweful. But some fans ruin it for all.
- RooNosHockey

We know it better than any other fans base...
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 30 @ 9:42 AM ET
Good point. I don't see anyway Homer mortgages any part of the future for a win now. I can see the future going in the offseason for a Weber or Suter, but no way he gives a 1st for Gleason etc.. He just restocked the cupboards at least at the NHL level.. why turn around and empty them again when we haven't proven to be a top contender. 2 years from now, we'll be a force if he sorts out the D.
- Hextall271


Oh come on. Am i going to be the first one to mention that Suter said at the All-Star draft that he would not be signing before the trade deadline? That might seal his fate. And am I also going to be the one to point out Suter and Timonen were playing together yesterday.... Ok let the speculations begin.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 30 @ 9:44 AM ET
They Leafs players were not loved
- Buts16


i like phil kessel more and more every time i hear him speak. the guy could not possibly want less to do with being a celebrity. you hear him on the bench after he scored, pierre is asking him if he feels better than he did the day before. "no. i feel awful." love that guy.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 9:47 AM ET
Oh come on. Am i going to be the first one to mention that Suter said at the All-Star draft that he would not be signing before the trade deadline? That might seal his fate. And am I also going to be the one to point out Suter and Timonen were playing together yesterday.... Ok let the speculations begin.
- RooNosHockey

I said the same thing (kinda) last night.

He didnt say he wasnt going to resign before the season ends, did he?

If it was Weber that said that, I dont think it would have been a big deal.. but by Suter (who is the UFA) it puts a ton of pressure on the team.. do you make other moves and try to make a run, or do you look at what you could possibly get in return for Suter and make a move. I dont put any stock with him being paired with Kimmo.. the captains and coaches make the line pairings..
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 30 @ 9:49 AM ET
Oh come on. Am i going to be the first one to mention that Suter said at the All-Star draft that he would not be signing before the trade deadline? That might seal his fate. And am I also going to be the one to point out Suter and Timonen were playing together yesterday.... Ok let the speculations begin.
- RooNosHockey


I've speculated many times what I think the team should do. Homer's always agressive, so nothing shocks me really.

I just don't think Nash trades him while they are in the running. Bad message to the fans..I see them playing it out with this group, losing in round 2 and then trading him for a pick before 1 July if they can't get it done. It wouldn't shock me either to see Homer get Gleason for maybe a 2nd and harry Z or something like that. I don't trade JVR or Schenn unless it's for a bona fide young star Dman. Then I guess you draft another forward with your 1st pick to fill that void.
bird_dog
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PEI
Joined: 09.30.2011

Jan 30 @ 9:53 AM ET
Some great one liners and busts here.

www.downgoesbrown.com/201...backstage-at-nhl-all.html
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 30 @ 9:54 AM ET
I said the same thing (kinda) last night.

He didnt say he wasnt going to resign before the season ends, did he?

If it was Weber that said that, I dont think it would have been a big deal.. but by Suter (who is the UFA) it puts a ton of pressure on the team.. do you make other moves and try to make a run, or do you look at what you could possibly get in return for Suter and make a move. I dont put any stock with him being paired with Kimmo.. the captains and coaches make the line pairings..

- jak521


http://www.nhl.com/ice/ne....htm?id=614254&print=true
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 30 @ 9:57 AM ET
i like phil kessel more and more every time i hear him speak. the guy could not possibly want less to do with being a celebrity. you hear him on the bench after he scored, pierre is asking him if he feels better than he did the day before. "no. i feel awful." love that guy.
- OrangeBlack27

it really is amazing
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 9:58 AM ET
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=614254&print=true
- OrangeBlack27

Thats exactly how I took it...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 9:59 AM ET
it really is amazing
- Crimsoninja

For a second I thought he was Kyle Wellwood.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jan 30 @ 10:01 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: 1/30/12
- bmeltzer


It's all fun and games until you take a Chara 108MPH slapshot to the face.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 30 @ 10:03 AM ET
I've speculated many times what I think the team should do. Homer's always agressive, so nothing shocks me really.

I just don't think Nash trades him while they are in the running. Bad message to the fans..I see them playing it out with this group, losing in round 2 and then trading him for a pick before 1 July if they can't get it done. It wouldn't shock me either to see Homer get Gleason for maybe a 2nd and harry Z or something like that. I don't trade JVR or Schenn unless it's for a bona fide young star Dman. Then I guess you draft another forward with your 1st pick to fill that void.

- Hextall271


If Nash could get a package like Coburn and JVR for Suter, then they may do it. Coburn may not be as good as Suter, but he will fill a void nicely, while JVR adds the offense they need. So that still keeps them in contention, while getting assetts for someone your going to lose as a UFA.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 10:04 AM ET
If Nash could get a package like Coburn and JVR for Suter, then they may do it. Coburn may not be as good as Suter, but he will fill a void nicely, while JVR adds the offense they need. So that still keeps them in contention, while getting assetts for someone your going to lose as a UFA.
- RooNosHockey

If the Flyers were to make a trade like that Homer should be fired on the spot.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 30 @ 10:08 AM ET
If the Flyers were to make a trade like that Homer should be fired on the spot.
- jak521


Would be and should be. Trade those two for an impending UFA? I would be the one with a pitchfork and torch heading towards Voorhees.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 30 @ 10:08 AM ET
If Nash could get a package like Coburn and JVR for Suter, then they may do it. Coburn may not be as good as Suter, but he will fill a void nicely, while JVR adds the offense they need. So that still keeps them in contention, while getting assetts for someone your going to lose as a UFA.
- RooNosHockey


That's a lot. I could be convinced to include Carle as we might not be able to sign him, but with JVR, that's a lot. The whole Pronger situation has us (frank)ed 8 ways to Tuesday IMO.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 30 @ 10:13 AM ET
That's a lot. I could be convinced to include Carle as we might not be able to sign him, but with JVR, that's a lot. The whole Pronger situation has us (frank)ed 8 ways to Tuesday IMO.
- Hextall271


As far as on ice this season and the next couple? Sure. But not $-wise. LTIR and it's like he was never there.
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