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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:43 PM ET
I'm not sure if Jeff Carter would feel bad for me if the roles were reversed so I am withholding my opinion.
- wilsonecho91

i know really the guy wasn't performing and he got dealt only has himself to blame

maybe if he was putting out effort and scoring 40 goals a season he wouldn't be there
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jan 30 @ 3:43 PM ET
don't worry homer knows... i told him
- 2Real



Glad we are in agreement!
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 3:44 PM ET
Exactly. People get fired or laid off work every day, after they commit to working for a company for the rest of thier lives. At least Carter still gets his pay check.
- RooNosHockey

My Dad has worked for 19 years at Sunoco Oil Refinery in Marcus Hook... I, unfortunately, know first hand how that works. On Friday one of his buddies who he has worked with all 19 of those years suffered a heart attack while at work.. just a little while after he got into an argument with HR about not getting his full retirement benefits.. He died at work.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:44 PM ET
Glad we are in agreement!
- Philly1980

indeed we are buddy
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:44 PM ET
My Dad has worked for 19 years at Sunoco Oil Refinery in Marcus Hook... I, unfortunately, know first hand how that works. On Friday one of his buddies who he has worked with all 19 of those years suffered a heart attack while at work.. just a little while after he got into an argument with HR about not getting his full retirement benefits.. He died at work.
- jak521

archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:45 PM ET
I don't think too many would argue that point. But I think MJL's point was that Gleason's game is comparable to Coburn's. The style of play and what they bring to the ice is similar. It's a good comparison, whether or not Coburn has scored more goals.
- bradleyc4


Gleason is a stay at home dman...

Coburn has the talent to be a solid 2 way defender...

I dunno... maybe i'm nitpicking...

I just don't see the two playing similar styles.

archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:46 PM ET
i know really the guy wasn't performing and he got dealt only has himself to blame

maybe if he was putting out effort and scoring 40 goals a season he wouldn't be there

- 2Real


He can score 100 goals a season for all i care... you need to show up for the playoffs.

Yes i understand injuries happen, but it was always a little funny with the timing of all his injuries. Never during the regular season... always during the playoffs.

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 30 @ 3:48 PM ET
i know really the guy wasn't performing and he got dealt only has himself to blame

maybe if he was putting out effort and scoring 40 goals a season he wouldn't be there

- 2Real


Carter sucks, right?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:48 PM ET
He can score 100 goals a season for all i care... you need to show up for the playoffs.

Yes i understand injuries happen, but it was always a little funny with the timing of all his injuries. Never during the regular season... always during the playoffs.

- archion113

yea i was going to touch on that too but it was pretty much a given carter was a playoff nobody

he should be happy he's in columbus and doesn't have to worry about the pressure of not performing in the playoffs
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jan 30 @ 3:48 PM ET
homer must have convinced him it's ok to be dealt
- 2Real

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:48 PM ET
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade_deadline/top25/index.html

Here's a rumor chart you don't have to pay for!

- archion113

spectors is pretty good
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:48 PM ET

- Richieattack18

you agree?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 30 @ 3:51 PM ET
Whats wrong with Columbus?



- Philly1980


I have no idea, ask Jeff
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 3:51 PM ET
I don't think too many would argue that point. But I think MJL's point was that Gleason's game is comparable to Coburn's. The style of play and what they bring to the ice is similar. It's a good comparison, whether or not Coburn has scored more goals.
- bradleyc4

I dont know how their game is comparable though. Gleason is a smaller guy (6' 210lbs) who plays a rough hard nosed defensive game. He isnt even a 2 way d-man let alone an offensively gifted one.

Coburn on the other hand is a huge d-man (6'5'' 220lbs) who skates extremely well, has a very good first pass, can play big minutes, kill penalties and QB a power play..

With the editions of Pronger and Meszy.. his game changed. He didnt see the PP time he had.. (in his first full season while seeing regular PP time he had 5 goals and 10 assists). He was paired with Timonen a lot and you could see them trying to change him into a more reliable defensive d-man.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:51 PM ET
Carter sucks, right?
- stveshdy

he was traded right?
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 30 @ 3:52 PM ET
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade_deadline/top25/index.html

Here's a rumor chart you don't have to pay for!

- archion113

This is really cool.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:53 PM ET
I have no idea, ask Jeff
- funmaster18

i'd love to get paid 5 mil for the next 11 years to live in clb
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 30 @ 3:53 PM ET
he was traded right?
- 2Real


Hell yeah. The return was very nice too. You get no arguement from me bc I wanted Carter and Richards both gone.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Jan 30 @ 3:54 PM ET
hard to compare us regular folks to athletes. 5 million a year and playing on a losing team is drasticaly different than our lives. I think if someone paid you 5 million, you should be able to find some way to be happy about playing in columbus. there's being happy and then there's being spoiled.
- funmaster18


I lived in Columbus for 2.5 years and it would take about 5 million per to get me to ever consider living in that poophole again
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 30 @ 3:54 PM ET
he was traded right?
- 2Real


I guess Gretzky sucked too.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 30 @ 3:54 PM ET
i'd love to get paid 5 mil for the next 11 years to live in clb
- 2Real


So would I. I would live a lot of places for that much money
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jan 30 @ 3:54 PM ET
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade_deadline/top25/index.html

Here's a rumor chart you don't have to pay for!

- archion113


Flyers are in on 50% of the rumors. Feels like hockeybuzz.....
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 3:54 PM ET

- 2Real

Im assuming you are not familiar with whats going on with the Oil refineries in the philly area (since you are a Cali guy).

So here ya go...

http://www.delcotimes.com...ed85a6089237253945373.txt

I believe sweet Lyn had a bonus last year of $15 mil...
archion113
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 06.04.2007

Jan 30 @ 3:55 PM ET
he was traded right?
- 2Real


In 43 playoff games.. he has 13 goals.

For a goal scorer thats bad.

Umberger in 26 games has 19 points.

Bah.. this is such a stupid topic.. who even cares about carter anymore... i'm over it
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 30 @ 3:55 PM ET
My Dad has worked for 19 years at Sunoco Oil Refinery in Marcus Hook... I, unfortunately, know first hand how that works. On Friday one of his buddies who he has worked with all 19 of those years suffered a heart attack while at work.. just a little while after he got into an argument with HR about not getting his full retirement benefits.. He died at work.
- jak521


This is really aweful, but if there is any bright side, his family will be getting full benefits, plus full life insurance payouts. I know that is no replacement for a father/husband, but at least the man can rest in peace knowing his family will be taken care of. My prayers go out to this man's family and friends.
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