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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
(frank) the Carolina Hurricanes!!

Start a bidding war and then keep the player. What a bunch of senseless garbage.

- Schenn2shine

Sink.
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jan 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
Beauchemin was just signed like a week ago.
- bradleyc4

I definitely didn't know that. I guess they're going after one of their other dmen.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
nhl_canes Carolina Hurricanes
The Canes have signed defenseman Tim Gleason to a four-year, $16 million extension: carhur.com/cre

- Buts16


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 30 @ 1:43 PM ET
The last concussion I got that was serious enough for me to go to the hospital, they did full head, neck and upper chest CAT scans.
- Jsaquella


Really, and we wonder why we pay so much for healthcare....


May I ask, what was the reason for the chest scan?
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jan 30 @ 1:43 PM ET
don't be mad cause the gm recognizes a good player
- 2Real


So the Canes recently noticed he's a good player because all sources say they were looking to trade him at too high a cost.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 30 @ 1:44 PM ET
Yeah, see I don't get this. The object of playing a sport is to win, at least in my life. All things being equal, I would rather win.

Now I wont defend the way Carter acted after he got there, but saying you cant understand why he was pissed, that after signing a cap friendly deal to play in hockey heaven, he was sent to hockey hell, makes no sense to me.

Millions of people also take less money, to work at a place they love. It goes both ways. This was Carter....

I guess I just don't understand the Jason Werth mentality, or the mentality that seems to pervade this place, that you would rather take more money and lose, or that you cant feel bad about making lots of money, playing a game where the object is to win, going to place where you know you will lose constantly.

I would rather win. I would rather enjoy my job. I would rather like where I work. Money is secondary.

I guess Ill never get the other side of this. Hey I have all this money, but I hate what I do, hate where I do it....believe me, it wears you down.

- MBFlyerfan


bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 30 @ 1:44 PM ET
Why would doctors look at someone's neck when dealing with a head injury? Are you serious?
- PLindbergh31

You don't have to be inept to miss something in a neck CT immediately after the injury. My neck injury didn't become obvious until years after the initial insult. And there's really no difference in the end result. Slow leak or fast, there's nothing they could do to save the disks.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jan 30 @ 1:44 PM ET
Don't dump on the Camero... It, along with all muscle cars are a part of Americana. Muscle cars defined generations of our youth. I'd like to see you pop the hood on your Prius and try and work on it with your son...
- RooNosHockey


Tell it to the skipmeister. You don't have to sell me on Auto Americana.

*he was joking btw.*
bird_dog
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PEI
Joined: 09.30.2011

Jan 30 @ 1:44 PM ET
People here think that the flyers medical staff stink. I would think it's prudent to check the neck as well with any head injury.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 30 @ 1:45 PM ET
Really, and we wonder why we pay so much for healthcare....


May I ask, what was the reason for the chest scan?

- MBFlyerfan


Anterior view of the cervical spine.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 30 @ 1:45 PM ET
Really, and we wonder why we pay so much for healthcare....


May I ask, what was the reason for the chest scan?

- MBFlyerfan


To see if there was any damage. It's pretty standard procedure to get from the shoulders up viewed, because neck injuries can cause PCS like symptoms.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 30 @ 1:47 PM ET
You don't have to be inept to miss something in a neck CT immediately after the injury. My neck injury didn't become obvious until years after the initial insult. And there's really no difference in the end result. Slow leak or fast, there's nothing they could do to save the disks.
- bodiva88


I understand that things can be missed. When you have a world class athlete involved you would hope the team treating him wouldn't miss things such as fractured vertebrae. Sounds like he may not even have had the tests that would be required to identify such an injury.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 30 @ 1:47 PM ET
I disagree he isn't that good. And this news is NOT good for the Flyers. Yes, I too am happy we aren't overpaying for him but that is one less D man on the market. All other D men's values just went up. Supply and demand.
- coffee junkie


it also means he's not going to a rival, like the rags, who were rumored to be interested in his services.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jan 30 @ 1:48 PM ET

- stveshdy


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 30 @ 1:48 PM ET
You don't have to be inept to miss something in a neck CT immediately after the injury. My neck injury didn't become obvious until years after the initial insult. And there's really no difference in the end result. Slow leak or fast, there's nothing they could do to save the disks.
- bodiva88


There is also this. And wasn't the injury already healed by the time they discovered it? While it probably happened when he received his concussion, there is no guarantee the C1, C2 injury occurred then.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 30 @ 1:49 PM ET

- bradleyc4


Is that G-Cobb singing?
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Jan 30 @ 1:49 PM ET
People here think that the flyers medical staff stink. I would think it's prudent to check the neck as well with any head injury.
- bird_dog


Ferraro said as much this morning. He said he was shocked that the neck thing was missed being that Sid has been to at least 3 specialists now. The team doctor might have missed something like this on a first examination or x-ray, but for the specialists to have missed it he said that the team would not be pleased at all.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 30 @ 1:50 PM ET
it also means he's not going to a rival, like the rags, who were rumored to be interested in his services.
- hammarby31


The Rags don't need Gleason. They have Woywitka, Bickel, Stralman and stiffs like that shutting teams down.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 30 @ 1:51 PM ET
JvR is practicing with the team, per Dave Issac, wearing a regular uniform(i.e. not a no contact job)
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jan 30 @ 1:51 PM ET
Yeah, see I don't get this. The object of playing a sport is to win, at least in my life. All things being equal, I would rather win.

Now I wont defend the way Carter acted after he got there, but saying you cant understand why he was pissed, that after signing a cap friendly deal to play in hockey heaven, he was sent to hockey hell, makes no sense to me.

Millions of people also take less money, to work at a place they love. It goes both ways. This was Carter....

I guess I just don't understand the Jason Werth mentality, or the mentality that seems to pervade this place, that you would rather take more money and lose, or that you cant feel bad about making lots of money, playing a game where the object is to win, going to place where you know you will lose constantly.

I would rather win. I would rather enjoy my job. I would rather like where I work. Money is secondary.

I guess Ill never get the other side of this. Hey I have all this money, but I hate what I do, hate where I do it....believe me, it wears you down.

- MBFlyerfan


May not be applicable in Carter's situation, but what is winning? Making 50K a year, living in smaller house, and sending your kid to public school while being at a job that makes you happy; or making twice that, living in a larger house, and giving your kids the best opportunities to succeed at a job where you aren't as happy?

That's a no-brainer, if you ask me.....
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 30 @ 1:52 PM ET
The Rags don't need Gleason. They have Woywitka, Bickel, Stralman and stiffs like that shutting teams down.
- PLindbergh31


Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 30 @ 1:52 PM ET
Is that G-Cobb singing?
- stveshdy

G-Cobb is the absolute worst sportstalk host ive ever heard in my entire life.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 30 @ 1:53 PM ET
JvR is practicing with the team, per Dave Issac, wearing a regular uniform(i.e. not a no contact job)
- Jsaquella


Right in time to be traded. Great!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jan 30 @ 1:53 PM ET
JvR is practicing with the team, per Dave Issac, wearing a regular uniform(i.e. not a no contact job)
- Jsaquella


As is Briere and Jagr in non contact jerseys.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 30 @ 1:53 PM ET
JvR is practicing with the team, per Dave Issac, wearing a regular uniform(i.e. not a no contact job)
- Jsaquella


i was hoping to see a tweet that he was getting labrum surgery or whatever the f is wrong with his core.
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