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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 17 @ 10:43 AM ET
I'd like to see a race between Harry Z and Read. They can both fly.
- BringBack25


i think harry z wins that. can't remember seeing anyone as fast since bure. i'm not kidding.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 17 @ 10:44 AM ET
Im far from ruling Schenn a bust after 15 games. Thats why I said I need to evaluate him more over an extended period of time. Injuries have hurt that process this year. I think the kid has tons of talent and potential.
- stveshdy


I've seen enough in flashes to know that he's got NHL skill. The key is sustaining his health and play.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 17 @ 10:44 AM ET
Yeah that would work for me. I just really like the way Couturier is playing at center. But until we really have the full potential of Schenn in front of us, it's hard to make any decision.
- funmaster18


Just seems like we are in the same position we were last year with center:

Richards
Carter
Breire
Giroux

now...

Giroux
Schenn
Couturier
Briere
Talbot
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jan 17 @ 10:45 AM ET


He's a gentleman, too. Popular with the ladies.

- Jsaquella


She's a little underage. But whatever floats the boat I guess.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 17 @ 10:45 AM ET
i think harry z wins that. can't remember seeing anyone as fast since bure. i'm not kidding.
- hammarby31


Grabner is pretty fast.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 17 @ 10:46 AM ET
Yeah that would work for me. I just really like the way Couturier is playing at center. But until we really have the full potential of Schenn in front of us, it's hard to make any decision.
- funmaster18


I'd like to see both get more consistent time in the top six, with the injuries. I would have liked to have seen Jagr sit for another few games and let Schenn or Couturier play with the Giroux Tang Clan
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 17 @ 10:46 AM ET
i think harry z wins that. can't remember seeing anyone as fast since bure. i'm not kidding.
- hammarby31


I think Read is faster... He just flys out there...
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 17 @ 10:46 AM ET
Just seems like we are in the same position we were last year with center:

Richards
Carter
Breire
Giroux

now...

Giroux
Schenn
Couturier
Briere
Talbot

- RooNosHockey


I think Talbot could easily move to wing and that would solve the issue. We would be young down the middle on the 3rd and 4th line, but that's how I'd fix it Schenn is ready to do that.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 17 @ 10:47 AM ET
Grabner is pretty fast.
- stveshdy


Anyone looks fast when you cherry pick... Except Hartnell.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 17 @ 10:47 AM ET
Just seems like we are in the same position we were last year with center:

Richards
Carter
Breire
Giroux

now...

Giroux
Schenn
Couturier
Briere
Talbot

- RooNosHockey


The difference is, that Schenn and Couturier are not established NHLers, and Talbot has played as much wing as he has center in the NHL and is really a no doubt 3rd or 4th liner.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 17 @ 10:48 AM ET
I think Read is faster... He just flys out there...
- RooNosHockey


z.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 17 @ 10:48 AM ET
I'd like to see both get more consistent time in the top six, with the injuries. I would have liked to have seen Jagr sit for another few games and let Schenn or Couturier play with the Giroux Tang Clan
- Jsaquella


Jagr looks worn out. Not sure if it's just the injury, schedule, I don't know. Hopefully a bunch of home games will help him rest up, seemed like he was forcing passes lately. He's been getting to the puck, but his decisions afterwards have been questionable.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 17 @ 10:48 AM ET
I think Talbot could easily move to wing and that would solve the issue. We would be young down the middle on the 3rd and 4th line, but that's how I'd fix it Schenn is ready to do that.
- funmaster18


This season, yes, next season I DO NOT want to see 1 minute with Schenn or Couturier on a 4th line...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 17 @ 10:49 AM ET
This season, yes, next season I DO NOT want to see 1 minute with Schenn or Couturier on a 4th line...
- RooNosHockey


Doug Gilmour spent most of his first two seasons playing third and fourth line roles. It's not going to hurt him, as long as he gets minutes.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jan 17 @ 10:49 AM ET
I was screaming.......a third round pick? yesssssssss Seriously I like Powe but lets be real, they had guys who could replace what he does
- nastyflyergirl


I liked Powe too. And I was a big advocate of him playing more minutes because last year's team lacked so much grit and a willingness to forecheck hard and hit (which Powe always did).

But a third rounder is a steal for him, and clearly Harry Z, and even Rinaldo can bring everything Powe provided and more. Harry Z even brings another Ivy League education.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 17 @ 10:51 AM ET
No Zac attack at morning skate, game time decision for him. We might see Jody Shelley tonight.

Took a puck off his grill yesterday at practice. Was reported he'd play yesterday, guess he might miss tonight.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 17 @ 10:51 AM ET
Anyone looks fast when you cherry pick... Except Hartnell.
- RooNosHockey


I dont think it has to do with Cherry picking...he is fast period.
wardbomb
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.30.2011

Jan 17 @ 10:52 AM ET
Doug Gilmour spent most of his first two seasons playing third and fourth line roles. It's not going to hurt him, as long as he gets minutes.
- Jsaquella


Excellent point.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jan 17 @ 10:52 AM ET
Jagr looks worn out. Not sure if it's just the injury, schedule, I don't know. Hopefully a bunch of home games will help him rest up, seemed like he was forcing passes lately. He's been getting to the puck, but his decisions afterwards have been questionable.
- funmaster18


I think the opp defense is just making a lot less space for the entire line out there. I dont think it's Jagr slowing. He is still strong on the puck, and the turn overs are more from the opps just gmae planing to expect those type of passes...

I think the line needs a shake up, get Read up there and add someone that can speed into the zone. And give Briere a familiar face.

Read-Giroux-Jagr
Hartnell-Briere-Voracek
Talbot-Scehnn/Coots-Simmonds
Harry Z- Schenn/Coots-Rinaldo
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jan 17 @ 10:53 AM ET
No Zac attack at morning skate, game time decision for him. We might see Jody Shelley tonight.

Took a puck off his grill yesterday at practice. Was reported he'd play yesterday, guess he might miss tonight.

- Jsaquella


Should be fun.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jan 17 @ 10:53 AM ET
Talbot should be on the wing. Either this season, of this off-season, I'd like the Flyers to find a 4th line center who can win face-offs and play on the PK.
- bradleyc4


Agreed. Loved the Dominic Moore idea you posted yesterday.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 17 @ 10:54 AM ET
This season, yes, next season I DO NOT want to see 1 minute with Schenn or Couturier on a 4th line...
- RooNosHockey


I won't mind it as long as they see some special team play along with it. I have no idea what this team will look like next year though.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 17 @ 10:55 AM ET
I think the opp defense is just making a lot less space for the entire line out there. I dont think it's Jagr slowing. He is still strong on the puck, and the turn overs are more from the opps just gmae planing to expect those type of passes...

I think the line needs a shake up, get Read up there and add someone that can speed into the zone. And give Briere a familiar face.

Read-Giroux-Jagr
Hartnell-Briere-Voracek
Talbot-Scehnn/Coots-Simmonds
Harry Z- Schenn/Coots-Rinaldo

- RooNosHockey


I don't know, I think it's his decision making. He's made a lot of questionable passes during the PPs and even strength. I think it's just mental mistakes. Teams are certainly making it much more difficult for them, but he and Giroux can really play better than they have been.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 17 @ 10:55 AM ET
I think the opp defense is just making a lot less space for the entire line out there. I dont think it's Jagr slowing. He is still strong on the puck, and the turn overs are more from the opps just gmae planing to expect those type of passes...

I think the line needs a shake up, get Read up there and add someone that can speed into the zone. And give Briere a familiar face.

Read-Giroux-Jagr
Hartnell-Briere-Voracek
Talbot-Scehnn/Coots-Simmonds
Harry Z- Schenn/Coots-Rinaldo

- RooNosHockey


I think Jagr's looked like warmed over dogpoop since he came back from his injury. He's been reaching for pucks and doesn't seem to have that comfort level, like he doesn't trust his body to be able to respond to what he wants to do.



funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jan 17 @ 10:57 AM ET
I think Jagr's looked like warmed over dogpoop since he came back from his injury. He's been reaching for pucks and doesn't seem to have that comfort level, like he doesn't trust his body to be able to respond to what he wants to do.
- Jsaquella


Yeah, he is always hunched over making a last effort attempt for a puck, or a stretched out pass that's off the mark or turned over. If it's because of his groin, then let him chill out for a few games. As I said earlier, the all star break will help the Flyers this year.
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