The most important thing is that we need to be a party that is inclusive and tolerant. We can be those things and be the party we always have been. We need to think about the environment - Teddy Roosevelt was a great environmentalist and people forget Reagan was the one who dealt with the ozone layer with the Montreal protocol. We also need to talk about healthcare honestly - Nixon almost passed universal healthcare. We need to have an talk about immigration and realize you can't just deport people. We need a comprehensive answer. We also need to stay out of people's bedrooms. The party that is for small government shouldn't be over-reaching into people's private lives.
Mainly, we need to be a party where people know what we are for, not just what we are against.
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Jan 18 @ 7:30 PM ET
The younger President Bush is citing his father’s health in declining the invitation to attend, according to [several officials with knowledge of inaugural planning]. The older Bush, who is 88, was just released from the hospital this week after an extended illness.
Monday’s partial ex-presidential attendance will stand in contrast to Obama’s first inauguration, in 2009. All four living presidents attended that event – including, of course, President George W. Bush, who was turning the office over to Obama.
Both Bushes are listed as honorary co-chairs of the president's inaugural committee.
The most important thing is that we need to be a party that is inclusive and tolerant. We can be those things and be the party we always have been. We need to think about the environment - Teddy Roosevelt was a great environmentalist and people forget Reagan was the one who dealt with the ozone layer with the Montreal protocol. We also need to talk about healthcare honestly - Nixon almost passed universal healthcare. We need to have an talk about immigration and realize you can't just deport people. We need a comprehensive answer. We also need to stay out of people's bedrooms. The party that is for small government shouldn't be over-reaching into people's private lives.
Mainly, we need to be a party where people know what we are for, not just what we are against.
Whoops: PolitiFact's 'Lie of the Year' Turns Out to Be True
Last month, PolitiFact selected its "Lie of the Year." Given PolitiFact's dubious record of singling out Republicans for lying far more often than Democrats, you probably could have guessed the winner of this particular sweepstakes was a Mitt Romney campaign ad:
It was a lie told in the critical state of Ohio in the final days of a close campaign -- that Jeep was moving its U.S. production to China. It originated with a conservative blogger, who twisted an accurate news story into a falsehood. Then it picked up steam when the Drudge Report ran with it. Even though Jeep's parent company gave a quick and clear denial, Mitt Romney repeated it and his campaign turned it into a TV ad.
And they stood by the claim, even as the media and the public expressed collective outrage against something so obviously false.
"Public expressed collective outrage"? That's essentially wishcasting on the part of PolitiFact, nor are they accurately representing what Mitt Romney said in the ad.
[Mitt Romney] Says Barack Obama "sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China" at the cost of American jobs.
Ok. Now here's what the Reuters reported earlier this week
By Stephen Jewkes and Stefano Rebaudo
MILAN | Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:51pm GMT
(Reuters) - Fiat (FIA.MI) and its U.S. unit Chrysler expect to roll out at least 100,000 Jeeps in China when production starts in 2014 as they seek to catch up with rivals in the world's biggest car market.
Output could double, the Italian carmaker's Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne, without giving a precise timeframe.
Chrysler, in which Fiat has a 58.5 percent stake, said on Tuesday it had agreed to make Jeeps in China with Guangzhou Automobile Group (601238.SS).
Fiat is trying to offset a slump in European sales by targeting fast growing markets in Asia and Latin America. The Italian firm and Chrysler lag far behind other foreign carmakers in China, where consumers bought 19.3 million cars last year.
"We expect production of around 100,000 Jeeps per year which is expandable to 200,000," Marchionne, who is also CEO of Chrysler, said on the sidelines of a conference, adding production could start in 18 months.
General Motors (GM.N) and Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE) both sold more than 2.8 million cars in China last year, and together accounted for over 29 percent of total vehicle sales in China, according to IHS Global Insight.
Jeep, Chrysler and Fiat, by contrast, sold just over 60,000 cars in China in 2012.
Since Fiat helped rescue Chrysler from bankruptcy in 2009, the U.S. No.3 automaker has turned into the main profit driver for the combined group thanks to strong U.S. demand.
Marchionne said he expected a court decision on the pricing of an option it has exercised to buy a 3.3 percent stake held by a union healthcare trust in the U.S. carmaker in the first quarter.
Under Chrysler's bailout agreement Fiat is able to exercise call options to purchase portions of the 41.5 percent stake held by the VEBA healthcare trust.
However, the two have been locked in a courtroom battle after VEBA balked at the $139.7 million price tag Fiat offered to buy a 3.3 percent tranche of Chrysler shares last July, saying it was too low.
In January Fiat filed to buy another 3.3 percent tranche of Chrysler from the VEBA.
Asked about the outlook for the global car market this year, Marchionne said he did not expect any meaningful recovery in Europe, where demand for new cars fell to a 17-year low in 2012.
"In North America, in Latin America and in China sales will rise," he added.
Whoops: PolitiFact's 'Lie of the Year' Turns Out to Be True
Last month, PolitiFact selected its "Lie of the Year." Given PolitiFact's dubious record of singling out Republicans for lying far more often than Democrats, you probably could have guessed the winner of this particular sweepstakes was a Mitt Romney campaign ad:
It was a lie told in the critical state of Ohio in the final days of a close campaign -- that Jeep was moving its U.S. production to China. It originated with a conservative blogger, who twisted an accurate news story into a falsehood. Then it picked up steam when the Drudge Report ran with it. Even though Jeep's parent company gave a quick and clear denial, Mitt Romney repeated it and his campaign turned it into a TV ad.
And they stood by the claim, even as the media and the public expressed collective outrage against something so obviously false.
"Public expressed collective outrage"? That's essentially wishcasting on the part of PolitiFact, nor are they accurately representing what Mitt Romney said in the ad.
- Doppleganger[Mitt Romney] Says Barack Obama "sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China" at the cost of American jobs.
Ok. Now here's what the Reuters reported earlier this week
By Stephen Jewkes and Stefano Rebaudo
MILAN | Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:51pm GMT
(Reuters) - Fiat (FIA.MI) and its U.S. unit Chrysler expect to roll out at least 100,000 Jeeps in China when production starts in 2014 as they seek to catch up with rivals in the world's biggest car market.
Output could double, the Italian carmaker's Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne, without giving a precise timeframe.
Chrysler, in which Fiat has a 58.5 percent stake, said on Tuesday it had agreed to make Jeeps in China with Guangzhou Automobile Group (601238.SS).
Fiat is trying to offset a slump in European sales by targeting fast growing markets in Asia and Latin America. The Italian firm and Chrysler lag far behind other foreign carmakers in China, where consumers bought 19.3 million cars last year.
"We expect production of around 100,000 Jeeps per year which is expandable to 200,000," Marchionne, who is also CEO of Chrysler, said on the sidelines of a conference, adding production could start in 18 months.
General Motors (GM.N) and Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE) both sold more than 2.8 million cars in China last year, and together accounted for over 29 percent of total vehicle sales in China, according to IHS Global Insight.
Jeep, Chrysler and Fiat, by contrast, sold just over 60,000 cars in China in 2012.
Since Fiat helped rescue Chrysler from bankruptcy in 2009, the U.S. No.3 automaker has turned into the main profit driver for the combined group thanks to strong U.S. demand.
Marchionne said he expected a court decision on the pricing of an option it has exercised to buy a 3.3 percent stake held by a union healthcare trust in the U.S. carmaker in the first quarter.
Under Chrysler's bailout agreement Fiat is able to exercise call options to purchase portions of the 41.5 percent stake held by the VEBA healthcare trust.
However, the two have been locked in a courtroom battle after VEBA balked at the $139.7 million price tag Fiat offered to buy a 3.3 percent tranche of Chrysler shares last July, saying it was too low.
In January Fiat filed to buy another 3.3 percent tranche of Chrysler from the VEBA.
Asked about the outlook for the global car market this year, Marchionne said he did not expect any meaningful recovery in Europe, where demand for new cars fell to a 17-year low in 2012.
"In North America, in Latin America and in China sales will rise," he added.
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Jan 21 @ 12:20 PM ET
Rapper Lupe Fiasco was thrown offstage and escorted off the premises of a Washington, D.C. concert hall during a pre-inauguration concert Sunday night, after going on an anti-war, anti-Obama rant, according to concertgoers.
Rapper Lupe Fiasco was thrown offstage and escorted off the premises of a Washington, D.C. concert hall during a pre-inauguration concert Sunday night, after going on an anti-war, anti-Obama rant, according to concertgoers. - watsonnostaw
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Jan 21 @ 2:15 PM ET
What is so dumb about the truth.
The War in Afghanistan began on 7 October 2001, so under Bush's roughly 7.8 years, there were fewer US Casualties than under Obama's 4 years. - Doppleganger
And Obama, that bastard, is killing them BY HIMSELF!
The War in Afghanistan began on 7 October 2001, so under Bush's roughly 7.8 years, there were fewer US Casualties than under Obama's 4 years. - Doppleganger
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Jan 21 @ 2:29 PM ET
What is so dumb about the truth.
The War in Afghanistan began on 7 October 2001, so under Bush's roughly 7.8 years, there were fewer US Casualties than under Obama's 4 years. - Doppleganger
this is dumb and you know it. they were there because of bush.
keep up the act, man. this kind of thing makes the whole schtick less believable.
