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Forums :: Misc. Lounge :: Barack Obama Appreciation Thread pt 2
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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 13 @ 12:18 PM ET
When people who've bought into the Left Wing Progressive Ideology start to read something that contradicts what they've taken as the truth for so long, they don't want to feel fooled, mislead, uniformed, had the wool pulled over their eyes or might have to do some research to find out where the actual truth really lies, they tend to stop reading as it's easier to go with the flow and label the source as "DENIERS" or supported by the oil industry or big bankers and then return to the flock of sheeple.

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- Doppleganger

i was going to ask if you've bought into the Right Wing Conservative Ideology but i stopped because i realize you are too smart for that and have chosen instead to buy into THE TRUTH
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jan 13 @ 7:36 PM ET
trust me, we all get the point.
- kicksave856

kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 13 @ 8:10 PM ET
.. aw never mind
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jan 13 @ 8:37 PM ET
.. aw never mind
- kicksave856

Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 15 @ 6:59 AM ET
No 'Death Star' for US, White House says

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sc...house-says/#ixzz2I2phSZEu

The planet-killing Death Star may have been the ultimate weapon for the Empire in the "Star Wars" films, but it has no place in the United States military today, a White House official said Friday, Jan. 11.
The statement, an official response a petition to begin building a real-life Death Star by 2016 on the White House's We the People website, said President Barack Obama's Administration cannot support building the science fiction weapon for several down-to-Earth reasons.
"The Administration shares your desire for job creation and a strong national defense, but a Death Star isn't on the horizon," wrote Paul Shawcross, chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House's Office of Management and Budget.
The Death Star petition, posted in the November, was signed by 34,435 people and the White House has pledged to respond to any petitions that garner 25,000 signatures in 30 days.
Not the least of the hurdles for a real-life Death Star is the space construction costs, which Shawcross said has been estimated at $850 quadrillion (that's $850,000,000,000,000,000). The White House is trying to reduce the deficit, not expand it, he wrote.
Then there's the Death Star's planet-destroying warship nature.
"The Administration does not support blowing up planets," Shawcross wrote.
And of course, there's the fact that Luke Skywalker destroyed the first Death Star with a single X-wing fighter.
"Why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars on a Death Star with a fundamental flaw that could be exploited by a one-man starship?" Shawcross explained.
While there will be no moon-size Death Star in the U.S. military's arsenal by 2016, Saturn's real-life moon Mimas does look eerily similar to the fictional warship. [Saturn's' Death Star' Moon Mimas (Photos)]
Last year, astronomers with the agency's planet-hunting Kepler space telescope also announced that they found a real-life version of Tatooine, Luke's home planet with two suns. NASA also plans to send astronauts where no one has gone before — an asteroid — by 2025, and then take aim a manned trip to Mars in the 2030s.
'The Death Star's power to destroy a planet, or even a whole star system, is insignificant next to the power of the Force.'
- Paul Shawcross, chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House's Office of Management and Budget
And Shawcross also urged the public to go outside at night and look up.
"However, look carefully (here's how) and you'll notice something already floating in the sky — that's no moon, it's a space station!" Shawcross wrote. "Yes, we already have a giant, football field-sized International Space Station in orbit around the Earth that's helping us learn how humans can live and thrive in space for long durations."
The International Space Station is a $100 billion orbiting lab — a deal compared to the Death Star — and is currently home to a six-man crew representing the United States, Russia and Canada. Construction of the space station began in 1998 and today it is the largest manmade structure in space. It has the same living space as a five-bedroom house.
The space station can appear so bright to observers on Earth that at times it rivals Venus, the brightest planet in the night sky. Two American astronauts (of NASA), three Russian cosmonauts and a Canadian astronaut currently live on the station.
And Shawcross said there are other Star Wars technologies besides the Death Star that do have a place in today's society.
"We don't have a Death Star, but we do have floating robot assistants on the space station, a President who knows his way around a light saber and advanced (marshmallow) cannon, and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which is supporting research on building Luke's [robotic] arm, floating droids, and quadruped walkers," Shawcross wrote.
"We are living in the future!" Shawcross wrote. "Enjoy it. Or better yet, help build it by pursuing a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field."
The Administration and NASA have both been working to spur interest in science, math, engineering and technology among students.
"If you do pursue a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field, the Force will be with us!" Shawcross concluded. "Remember, the Death Star's power to destroy a planet, or even a whole star system, is insignificant next to the power of the Force."
With the Death Star officially the table, there is another science fiction spaceship petition that could draw a White House response.
Last month, an engineer writing as BTE Dan launched a petition to build a real-life Starship Enterprise from the "Star Trek" TV series. So far, 19,234 have signed the petition, so it still has a ways to go to prompt a White House response.
For Shawcross's full response to the Death Star response, visit: https://petitions.whiteho...on-response-youre-looking


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sc...house-says/#ixzz2I2pd7BJR
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jan 15 @ 8:34 AM ET
No 'Death Star' for US, White House says

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sc...house-says/#ixzz2I2phSZEu

The planet-killing Death Star may have been the ultimate weapon for the Empire in the "Star Wars" films, but it has no place in the United States military today, a White House official said Friday, Jan. 11.
The statement, an official response a petition to begin building a real-life Death Star by 2016 on the White House's We the People website, said President Barack Obama's Administration cannot support building the science fiction weapon for several down-to-Earth reasons.
"The Administration shares your desire for job creation and a strong national defense, but a Death Star isn't on the horizon," wrote Paul Shawcross, chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House's Office of Management and Budget.
The Death Star petition, posted in the November, was signed by 34,435 people and the White House has pledged to respond to any petitions that garner 25,000 signatures in 30 days.
Not the least of the hurdles for a real-life Death Star is the space construction costs, which Shawcross said has been estimated at $850 quadrillion (that's $850,000,000,000,000,000). The White House is trying to reduce the deficit, not expand it, he wrote.
Then there's the Death Star's planet-destroying warship nature.
"The Administration does not support blowing up planets," Shawcross wrote.
And of course, there's the fact that Luke Skywalker destroyed the first Death Star with a single X-wing fighter.
"Why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars on a Death Star with a fundamental flaw that could be exploited by a one-man starship?" Shawcross explained.
While there will be no moon-size Death Star in the U.S. military's arsenal by 2016, Saturn's real-life moon Mimas does look eerily similar to the fictional warship.

- Pecafan Fan[Saturn's' Death Star' Moon Mimas (Photos)]
Last year, astronomers with the agency's planet-hunting Kepler space telescope also announced that they found a real-life version of Tatooine, Luke's home planet with two suns. NASA also plans to send astronauts where no one has gone before — an asteroid — by 2025, and then take aim a manned trip to Mars in the 2030s.
'The Death Star's power to destroy a planet, or even a whole star system, is insignificant next to the power of the Force.'
- Paul Shawcross, chief of the Science and Space Branch at the White House's Office of Management and Budget
And Shawcross also urged the public to go outside at night and look up.
"However, look carefully (here's how) and you'll notice something already floating in the sky — that's no moon, it's a space station!" Shawcross wrote. "Yes, we already have a giant, football field-sized International Space Station in orbit around the Earth that's helping us learn how humans can live and thrive in space for long durations."
The International Space Station is a $100 billion orbiting lab — a deal compared to the Death Star — and is currently home to a six-man crew representing the United States, Russia and Canada. Construction of the space station began in 1998 and today it is the largest manmade structure in space. It has the same living space as a five-bedroom house.
The space station can appear so bright to observers on Earth that at times it rivals Venus, the brightest planet in the night sky. Two American astronauts (of NASA), three Russian cosmonauts and a Canadian astronaut currently live on the station.
And Shawcross said there are other Star Wars technologies besides the Death Star that do have a place in today's society.
"We don't have a Death Star, but we do have floating robot assistants on the space station, a President who knows his way around a light saber and advanced (marshmallow) cannon, and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, which is supporting research on building Luke's [robotic] arm, floating droids, and quadruped walkers," Shawcross wrote.
"We are living in the future!" Shawcross wrote. "Enjoy it. Or better yet, help build it by pursuing a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field."
The Administration and NASA have both been working to spur interest in science, math, engineering and technology among students.
"If you do pursue a career in a science, technology, engineering or math-related field, the Force will be with us!" Shawcross concluded. "Remember, the Death Star's power to destroy a planet, or even a whole star system, is insignificant next to the power of the Force."
With the Death Star officially the table, there is another science fiction spaceship petition that could draw a White House response.
Last month, an engineer writing as BTE Dan launched a petition to build a real-life Starship Enterprise from the "Star Trek" TV series. So far, 19,234 have signed the petition, so it still has a ways to go to prompt a White House response.
For Shawcross's full response to the Death Star response, visit: https://petitions.whiteho...on-response-youre-looking


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/sc...house-says/#ixzz2I2pd7BJR



You're a little late to the party, I posted this one page back (Saturday @ 10:33 AM ET)
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 15 @ 8:41 AM ET
You're a little late to the party, I posted this one page back (Saturday @ 10:33 AM ET)
- Doppleganger


I don't back read.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jan 15 @ 8:43 AM ET
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jan 15 @ 9:02 AM ET
http://washingtonexaminer.com/
New pay-per-mile scheme would boost taxes 250 percent
January 14, 2013 | 2:15 pm

An on-again, off-again move by the Obama administration to scrap the federal gas tax in favor of a pay-per-mile fee would boost the tab to Americans as high as 250 percent, raising their current tax of 18.4 cents a gallon to as high as 46 cents, according to a new government study.

But without a tax increase, said the Government Accountability Office study, the government's highway fund is going to go dry. One reason the fund is going broke: President Obama's push for fuel efficient cars has resulted in better mileage, and fewer stops at the pump.

The GAO study is just the latest review of federal spending that paints a grim picture of the nation's infrastructure. Just keeping spending at current levels, the GAO said, would require a near doubling of the gas tax to 32 cents a gallon, and that would jump to as high as 46 cents should the federal government add spending to fix crumbling infrastructure and build new roads.

The average driver pays about $96 a year in federal gas taxes, said GAO. Should the administration seek to raise the highway trust fund from $34 billion to the $78 billion needed to fix and maintain roads, that could rise to $248. Translated into a pay-per-mile plan, drivers would face a tax of 2.2 cents per mile compared to the 0.9 cents they pay now. Trucks would pay far more.

"We modeled the average mileage fee rates that would be needed for passenger vehicles and commercial trucks to meet three illustrative Highway Trust Fund revenue targets ranging from about $34 billion to $78.4 billion per year. To meet these targets, a driver of a passenger vehicle with average fuel efficiency would pay from $108 to $248 per year in mileage fees compared to the $96 they currently pay annually in federal gasoline tax," said GAO.

The administration floated that plan in the first term, but scrapped it when it was met with public outrage. However, several states and some in Congress are now eyeing the plan, keeping it alive as a federal option.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jan 15 @ 9:22 AM ET
i was going to ask if you've bought into the Right Wing Conservative Ideology but i stopped because i realize you are too smart for that and have chosen instead to buy into THE TRUTH
- Crimsoninja


The difference with me is that I seek out both sides of an issue, read both local papers (one left wing the other right), watch FNC SunNews CBC NBC CNN MSNBC The Daily Show Real Time With Bill Maher and engage in debates with people on both sided of an issue.

After all the spin from, both sides, I feel I'm informed enough to make up my mind on an issue, as both sides usually have valid points, and neither side has the copyright on "the Truth" in most cases..................it usually is somewhere in between.

I know many people who "buy into" one side or the other and are astonished when presented with facts that contradict what they hold firmly as "the truth".

A few years ago I was talking with my brother in-law, and he was so freaking pissed of that PM Harper Prorogued parliament and went on to tell me how terrible it was, and how anti democratic it was....................but I informed him that previous PMs have Prorogued parliament many many many more times than PM Harper has, and that the left wing progressive media was making a big deal about it simply because the current government was Conservative and were giving the impression that this was something new in Canada, and was the end of the world. I pointed out that this same media made no big deal about Prorogation in the past because they were in sympatico with the then Liberal governments.

He did not believe me and immediately went to google this new information, and returned to the room and kept his mouth shut on the topic. I think he might have learned NOT to accept the news sources he used at face value anymore, and would in the future seek out different POVs.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 15 @ 9:45 AM ET
You're a little late to the party, I posted this one page back (Saturday @ 10:33 AM ET)
- Doppleganger

remember when you went apepoop because somebody mentioned you were late to post an article?

And then you used time zones as an excuse?


That was funny. You're funny.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 15 @ 9:45 AM ET
remember when you went apepoop because somebody mentioned you were late to post an article?

And then you used time zones as an excuse?


That was funny. You're funny.

- Feeling Glucky?

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 15 @ 9:46 AM ET
The difference with me is that I seek out both sides of an issue, read both local papers (one left wing the other right), watch FNC SunNews CBC NBC CNN MSNBC The Daily Show Real Time With Bill Maher and engage in debates with people on both sided of an issue.

After all the spin from, both sides, I feel I'm informed enough to make up my mind on an issue, as both sides usually have valid points, and neither side has the copyright on "the Truth" in most cases..................it usually is somewhere in between.

I know many people who "buy into" one side or the other and are astonished when presented with facts that contradict what they hold firmly as "the truth".

A few years ago I was talking with my brother in-law, and he was so freaking pissed of that PM Harper Prorogued parliament and went on to tell me how terrible it was, and how anti democratic it was....................but I informed him that previous PMs have Prorogued parliament many many many more times than PM Harper has, and that the left wing progressive media was making a big deal about it simply because the current government was Conservative and were giving the impression that this was something new in Canada, and was the end of the world. I pointed out that this same media made no big deal about Prorogation in the past because they were in sympatico with the then Liberal governments.

He did not believe me and immediately went to google this new information, and returned to the room and kept his mouth shut on the topic. I think he might have learned NOT to accept the news sources he used at face value anymore, and would in the future seek out different POVs.

- Doppleganger

Funny how "reading both sides" always ends with you posting something from the far right.

Reading something and going "LALALALALALALALA" the whole way through doesn't really count.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 15 @ 4:29 PM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/blo...conspiracy-155033813.html
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 15 @ 4:38 PM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/gene-rosen-sandy-hook-conspiracy-155033813.html

- Pecafan Fan

Wtf
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jan 16 @ 10:06 AM ET
Funny how "reading both sides" always ends with you posting something from the far right.

Reading something and going "LALALALALALALALA" the whole way through doesn't really count.

- Feeling Glucky?



Funny how you always end up posting something from the Left Wing Progressive POV.

So I'll BET you're an advocate for banning guns.

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 16 @ 10:30 AM ET
Funny how you always end up posting something from the Left Wing Progressive POV.

So I'll BET you're an advocate for banning guns.


- Doppleganger

Give me a rational reason why a person needs an assault rifle for "safety" or "hunting".

Long barrel rifles? No problem.

Easily concealable handguns that a skilled shooter can pump out 5 shots/second with?
What's the rationale?


My beliefs are based on equality, logic and rationality. Lately, those are principles the right(in the US, anyways) has ignored. So I guess in that respect, I do side more with the left.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jan 16 @ 10:56 AM ET
Give me a rational reason why a person needs an assault rifle for "safety" or "hunting".

Long barrel rifles? No problem.

Easily concealable handguns that a skilled shooter can pump out 5 shots/second with?
What's the rationale?


My beliefs are based on equality, logic and rationality. Lately, those are principles the right(in the US, anyways) has ignored. So I guess in that respect, I do side more with the left.

- Feeling Glucky?



So you would ban all guns?
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 16 @ 11:03 AM ET
ooh let's do this again.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 16 @ 11:29 AM ET
So you would ban all guns?
- Doppleganger

Remember those stats I linked to earlier about Right-wingers and IQ?


How does it feel to be a statistic?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 16 @ 11:36 AM ET
I think all americans should have the right to own weapons that can destroy a tank. Just in case.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 16 @ 11:42 AM ET
I think all americans should have the right to own weapons that can destroy a tank. Just in case.
- Pecafan Fan

Never know when tovarishch Obama will open the gates for his CCCP buddies.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 16 @ 11:44 AM ET
lol
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jan 16 @ 11:46 AM ET


So AR-15 wasn't used at all? Only handguns? Is this true?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 16 @ 11:47 AM ET
lol
- kicksave856


YOU JUST NEVER KNOW!
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