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kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 2 @ 5:55 PM ET
Ok dude
- Cptmjl

why does that bother you so much?

last time i said bro and you got twisted, now dude.

do you think we're having some kind of pissing contest?
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jan 2 @ 6:05 PM ET
why does that bother you so much?

last time i said bro and you got twisted, now dude.

do you think we're having some kind of pissing contest?

- kicksave856

dudebro
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 2 @ 6:13 PM ET
dudebro
- sanfordnson

oh now i'm pissed right off.

how dare you?
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jan 2 @ 6:29 PM ET
oh now i'm pissed right off.

how dare you?

- kicksave856

Get a job hipster.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 2 @ 6:33 PM ET
Get a job hipster.
- sanfordnson

ooo i am seething with rage right now.

where did this name go for a while anyway? was it banned? do you need me to go get dellio and bust some people up?
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jan 2 @ 6:43 PM ET
ooo i am seething with rage right now.

where did this name go for a while anyway? was it banned? do you need me to go get dellio and bust some people up?

- kicksave856

not sure. i leave different things logged in on different devices. On my one paperweight (aka iPad) I was still logged on as LongDukDong. Forgot I even had that.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 2 @ 6:45 PM ET
not sure. i leave different things logged in on different devices. On my one paperweight (aka iPad) I was still logged on as LongDukDong. Forgot I even had that.
- sanfordnson

lol
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 2 @ 7:02 PM ET
why does that bother you so much?

last time i said bro and you got twisted, now dude.

do you think we're having some kind of pissing contest?

- kicksave856

Yes I am extremely upset bro.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 2 @ 7:04 PM ET
Get a job hipster.
- sanfordnson

Don't forget I also said rap stars too and I'm a racist hillbilly bigot religious zealot!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 2 @ 7:06 PM ET
ooo i am seething with rage right now.

where did this name go for a while anyway? was it banned? do you need me to go get dellio and bust some people up?

- kicksave856

Me too. Extremely upsetting.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 2 @ 7:06 PM ET
Don't forget I also said rap stars too and I'm a racist hillbilly bigot religious zealot!
- Cptmjl

you really are terrible.

wanna hug it out?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 2 @ 7:08 PM ET
you really are terrible.

wanna hug it out?

- kicksave856

to sentence one and a hell yeah to the second part
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 2 @ 7:09 PM ET
to sentence one and a hell yeah to the second part
- Cptmjl

i feel better now.
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Jan 2 @ 7:50 PM ET
You groping hippy fagets done hugging it out over chai lattes yet?
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 2 @ 7:52 PM ET
You groping hippy fagets done hugging it out over chai lattes yet?
- sanfordnson

um, mine is a mocha mint cappuccino.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jan 5 @ 11:05 AM ET
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Jan 6 @ 12:05 AM ET
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jan 6 @ 8:38 AM ET
WASHINGTON (AP) — New taxes are coming Jan. 1 to help finance President Barack Obama's health care overhaul. Most people may not notice. But they will pay attention if Congress decides to start taxing employer-sponsored health insurance, one option in play if lawmakers can ever agree on a budget deal to reduce federal deficits.

The tax hikes already on the books, taking effect in 2013, fall mainly on people who make lots of money and on the health care industry. But about half of Americans benefit from the tax-free status of employer health insurance. Workers pay no income or payroll taxes on what their employer contributes for health insurance, and in most cases on their own share of premiums as well.

It's the single biggest tax break the government allows, outstripping the mortgage interest deduction, the deduction for charitable giving and other better-known benefits. If the value of job-based health insurance were taxed like regular income, it would raise nearly $150 billion in 2013, according to congressional estimates. By comparison, wiping away the mortgage interest deduction would bring in only about $90 billion.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Most Americans will pay higher federal taxes in 2013, even though the tax package Congress passed New Year's Day will protect 99% of Americans from an income tax increase.

About 77% of American households will face higher federal taxes in 2013 under the agreement negotiated between President Obama and Senate Republicans, estimates the Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan Washington research group.

That's because even though just 1% of households will pay higher income taxes, an increase in federal payroll taxes will hit nearly every wage earner, the Tax Policy Center says.

Households earning between $40,000 and $50,000 a year face an average tax increase of $579 in 2013, according to the Tax Policy Center's analysis. Households making between $50,000 and $75,000 a year face an average tax hike of $822.

The reason: the legislation does not prevent the expiration of a temporary reduction in Social Security payroll taxes. Last year, a 2 percentage-point temporary cut in federal payroll taxes was worth about $1,000 to a worker making $50,000 a year.

"For most people, it's just the payroll tax," said Roberton Williams, a senior fellow at the Tax Policy Center.

Helping Social Security meet its obligations will be financed by a 12.4% tax on wages up to $113,700 a year, with employers paying half and workers paying the other half.

Obama and Congress had reduced the share paid by workers for Social Security to 4.2% from 6.2% for 2011 and 2012, saving a typical family about $1,000 a year.

The richest households face the biggest tax hikes. The income tax rate rises to 39.6% from 35% for individuals earning above $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for married couples.

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Full List of Obamacare Tax Hikes: Listed by Size of Tax Hike

Complied by Americans for Tax Reform

WASHINGTON, DC -- Obamacare contains 20 new or higher taxes on American families and small businesses. Arranged by their respective sizes according to CBO scores, below is the total list of all $500 billion-plus in tax hikes (over the next ten years) in Obamacare, their effective dates, and where to find them in the bill.

$123 Billion: Surtax on Investment Income (Takes effect Jan. 2013): A new, 3.8 percent surtax on investment income earned in households making at least $250,000 ($200,000 single). This would result in the following top tax rates on investment income:






*Other unearned income includes (for surtax purposes) gross income from interest, annuities, royalties, net rents, and passive income in partnerships and Subchapter-S corporations. It does not include municipal bond interest or life insurance proceeds, since those do not add to gross income. It does not include active trade or business income, fair market value sales of ownership in pass-through entities, or distributions from retirement plans. The 3.8% surtax does not apply to non-resident aliens. (Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 87-93)

$86 Billion: Hike in Medicare Payroll Tax (Takes effect Jan. 2013): Current law and changes:




First $200,000
($250,000 Married)
Employer/Employee


All Remaining Wages
Employer/Employee

Current Law


1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed


1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed

Obamacare Tax Hike


1.45%/1.45%
2.9% self-employed


1.45%/2.35%
3.8% self-employed

Bill: PPACA, Reconciliation Act; Page: 2000-2003; 87-93


$65 Billion: Individual Mandate Excise Tax and Employer Mandate Tax (Both taxes take effect Jan. 2014):

Individual: Anyone not buying “qualifying” health insurance as defined by Obama-appointed HHS bureaucrats must pay an income surtax according to the higher of the following






Exemptions for religious objectors, undocumented immigrants, prisoners, those earning less than the poverty line, members of Indian tribes, and hardship cases (determined by HHS). Bill: PPACA; Page: 317-337


Employer: If an employer does not offer health coverage, and at least one employee qualifies for a health tax credit, the employer must pay an additional non-deductible tax of $2000 for all full-time employees. Applies to all employers with 50 or more employees. If any employee actually receives coverage through the exchange, the penalty on the employer for that employee rises to $3000. If the employer requires a waiting period to enroll in coverage of 30-60 days, there is a $400 tax per employee ($600 if the period is 60 days or longer). Bill: PPACA; Page: 345-346

(Combined score of individual and employer mandate tax penalty: $65 billion)

$60.1 Billion: Tax on Health Insurers (Takes effect Jan. 2014): Annual tax on the industry imposed relative to health insurance premiums collected that year. Phases in gradually until 2018. Fully-imposed on firms with $50 million in profits. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,986-1,993

$32 Billion: Excise Tax on Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans (Takes effect Jan. 2018): Starting in 2018, new 40 percent excise tax on “Cadillac” health insurance plans ($10,200 single/$27,500 family). Higher threshold ($11,500 single/$29,450 family) for early retirees and high-risk professions. CPI +1 percentage point indexed. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,941-1,956

$23.6 Billion: “Black liquor” tax hike (Took effect in 2010) This is a tax increase on a type of bio-fuel. Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 105

$22.2 Billion: Tax on Innovator Drug Companies (Took effect in 2010): $2.3 billion annual tax on the industry imposed relative to share of sales made that year. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,971-1,980

$20 Billion: Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers (Takes effect Jan. 2013): Medical device manufacturers employ 360,000 people in 6000 plants across the country. This law imposes a new 2.3% excise tax. Exempts items retailing for <$100. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,980-1,986

$15.2 Billion: High Medical Bills Tax (Takes effect Jan 1. 2013): Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. Waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994-1,995

$13.2 Billion: Flexible Spending Account Cap – aka “Special Needs Kids Tax” (Takes effect Jan. 2013): Imposes cap on FSAs of $2500 (now unlimited). Indexed to inflation after 2013. There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,388-2,389

$5 Billion: Medicine Cabinet Tax (Took effect Jan. 2011): Americans no longer able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except insulin). Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,957-1,959

$4.5 Billion: Elimination of tax deduction for employer-provided retirement Rx drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D (Takes effect Jan. 2013) Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,994

$4.5 Billion: Codification of the “economic substance doctrine” (Took effect in 2010): This provision allows the IRS to disallow completely-legal tax deductions and other legal tax-minimizing plans just because the IRS deems that the action lacks “substance” and is merely intended to reduce taxes owed. Bill: Reconciliation Act; Page: 108-113

$2.7 Billion: Tax on Indoor Tanning Services (Took effect July 1, 2010): New 10 percent excise tax on Americans using indoor tanning salons. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,397-2,399

$1.4 Billion: HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike (Took effect Jan. 2011): Increases additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,959

$0.6 Billion: $500,000 Annual Executive Compensation Limit for Health Insurance Executives (Takes effect Jan. 2013): Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,995-2,000

$0.4 Billion: Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Hike (Took effect in 2010): The special tax deduction in current law for Blue Cross/Blue Shield companies would only be allowed if 85 percent or more of premium revenues are spent on clinical services. Bill: PPACA; Page: 2,004

$ Negligible: Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals (Took effect in 2010): $50,000 per hospital if they fail to meet new "community health assessment needs," "financial assistance," and "billing and collection" rules set by HHS. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,961-1,971

$ Negligible: Employer Reporting of Insurance on W-2 (Took effect in Jan. 2012): Preamble to taxing health benefits on individual tax returns. Bill: PPACA; Page: 1,957

Read more: http://www.atr.org/full-l...isted-a7010#ixzz1zTXuZUYl
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 6 @ 10:30 AM ET

thank you barack, for saving the hockey season.
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
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Joined: 03.11.2010

Jan 6 @ 11:10 AM ET
thank you barack, for saving the hockey season.
- kicksave856

I knew it would take a black guy.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 6 @ 11:28 AM ET
I knew it would take a black guy.
- sanfordnson

i knew they were destined for big things when magic johnson cured his own aids.
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
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Joined: 03.11.2010

Jan 6 @ 11:41 AM ET
i knew they were destined for big things when magic johnson cured his own aids.
- kicksave856

sickle cell still a female dog though
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 6 @ 1:11 PM ET
hahahahaha





but honestly, i feel ridiculous even posting things like this (regardless of which side they criticize. I find it so bizarre that dopps actually seems to get off on it.)

- Crimsoninja

I don't think it's that unfair to say republicans as a whole aren't as smart as democrats. Obviously you shouldn't judge the individual by the same token as the whole, but the facts do show that in general, the right just isn't as smart as the left... and their policies tend to support that as well.

The fact that people would be willing to vote for the clowns the republicans have been pumping out is pretty damning evidence as well.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Jan 7 @ 8:52 AM ET
I knew it would take a black guy.
- sanfordnson



He's only 1/2 "black".........his mother was Caucasian.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jan 7 @ 9:02 AM ET
He's only 1/2 "black".........his mother was Caucasian.
- Doppleganger

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