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Forums :: Misc. Lounge :: Barack Obama Appreciation Thread pt 2
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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 29 @ 4:47 PM ET
i dont want a man in office that panders to the unintelligent and runs on the exact tactics that he considered deplorable during his first campaign. Oh and the fact that he has done almost nothing he said he would do.. please vote for Gary Johnson if you don't want a Morman in white house that will take a hard stance on nuclear advancement of other countries
- SabresFaninIndiana


im no polysci professor or anything but im prettyyyy sure Romney panders to the unintelligent ...and has changed positions on big issues a number of times, including abortion


plus he was a Mormon Bishop who believes that god lives on a planet called Kolob... or maybe he doesnt really believe in this mormon stuff and is just... pardering?
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Oct 29 @ 4:54 PM ET
im no polysci professor or anything but im prettyyyy sure Romney panders to the unintelligent ...and has changed positions on big issues a number of times, including abortion


plus he was a Mormon Bishop who believes that god lives on a planet called Kolob... or maybe he doesnt really believe in this mormon stuff and is just... pardering?

- Crimsoninja

Maybe romney panders as well but not to the degree.. and he has changed positions, people evovle get more information decide things need to be different.. If we all took one stance and never veered from it we would all still be lighting candles at night and washing our leafs in the nearest river.

Obama straight out has lied to the American public and now avoids the questions and stands behind the fact that they are doing a formal review of the situation. And he also switched stances on the Benghazi thing, he thought it was a terrorist attack then it was a video then it is a terrorist attack.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 29 @ 5:20 PM ET
Maybe romney panders as well but not to the degree.. and he has changed positions, people evovle get more information decide things need to be different.. If we all took one stance and never veered from it we would all still be lighting candles at night and washing our leafs in the nearest river.

Obama straight out has lied to the American public and now avoids the questions and stands behind the fact that they are doing a formal review of the situation. And he also switched stances on the Benghazi thing, he thought it was a terrorist attack then it was a video then it is a terrorist attack.

- SabresFaninIndiana

lol yes im sure Romney simply "evolved and got more information" and didnt change his stance depending on what office he was running for.


again, im no obamapologist, just trying to point out that both sides are full of sh1t.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Oct 29 @ 5:32 PM ET
lol yes im sure Romney simply "evolved and got more information" and didnt chance his stance depending on what office he was running for.


again, im no obamapologist, just trying to point out that both sides are full of sh1t.

- Crimsoninja

*grabs you by the hand and leads you away*
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Oct 29 @ 7:32 PM ET
*grabs you by the hand and leads you away*
- kicksave856

At 2:15 p.m. today, President Obama called NJ Governor Christie for a one-on-one conversation. Christie told the president that FEMA was doing an "excellent" job, and Obama gave him a number at the White House to reach him directly.

If there's a problem in New Jersey, Obama "said not worry about anything else, just call him," Christie said.

"I appreciate that kind of leadership and I appreciate the president's phone call. And if we do need something, I got the number and I'll use it."
nayefj
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Colorado/Qatif, Saudi Arabia/القطيف
Joined: 02.04.2010

Oct 29 @ 8:59 PM ET


Pink hand bracelet!
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Oct 29 @ 9:22 PM ET
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 29 @ 10:39 PM ET
the fact that he has increased the number of drone attacks by astronomical numbers based upon another countries provided intelligence.. that sounds like a much better policy then saving our own countrymen being attacked while we watch it..
- SabresFaninIndiana

So, you don't see the difference between being given the go-ahead by a country to attack suspected terrorist targets, and invading the airspace of a country to launch an attack on civilians?

That's right up there with Dopps not being able to see the difference between the lives of thousands of Americans and 4.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 29 @ 10:55 PM ET
Maybe romney panders as well but not to the degree.. and he has changed positions, people evovle get more information decide things need to be different.. If we all took one stance and never veered from it we would all still be lighting candles at night and washing our leafs in the nearest river.

Obama straight out has lied to the American public and now avoids the questions and stands behind the fact that they are doing a formal review of the situation. And he also switched stances on the Benghazi thing, he thought it was a terrorist attack then it was a video then it is a terrorist attack.

- SabresFaninIndiana

So, no chance that Obama simply evolved his opinion?

Think Romney's gonna evolve any details on his magical plan that will take America out of debt without cutting anything(other than abortions and big bird) or raising anybody's taxes?

Romney has lied and flip-flopped his way through his campaign. And he's running on a campaign of turning back social reforms. He is taking the US closer to, as you put it, "lighting candles at night, and washing [your] lea[ves] in the nearest river"

Since the Romney campaign has no problems capitalizing on tragedy for their own gains, maybe they should use this storm as a chance to remind people what Romney thinks about funding disaster relief.

hmm, maybe not.

Well, I guess we can add "helping disaster victims" onto the list of things he'd cut.

Remind me again how Obama's a bad guy for not risking an all out war over the lives of four people.
nayefj
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Colorado/Qatif, Saudi Arabia/القطيف
Joined: 02.04.2010

Oct 29 @ 11:19 PM ET
So, no chance that Obama simply evolved his opinion?

Think Romney's gonna evolve any details on his magical plan that will take America out of debt without cutting anything(other than abortions and big bird) or raising anybody's taxes?

Romney has lied and flip-flopped his way through his campaign. And he's running on a campaign of turning back social reforms. He is taking the US closer to, as you put it, "lighting candles at night, and washing

- Feeling Glucky?[your] lea[ves] in the nearest river"

Since the Romney campaign has no problems capitalizing on tragedy for their own gains, maybe they should use this storm as a chance to remind people what Romney thinks about funding disaster relief.

hmm, maybe not.

Well, I guess we can add "helping disaster victims" onto the list of things he'd cut.

Remind me again how Obama's a bad guy for not risking an all out war over the lives of four people.


His flip-flopping is oddly consistent. He's not dumb enough to mention rape, though.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Oct 29 @ 11:47 PM ET
So, you don't see the difference between being given the go-ahead by a country to attack suspected terrorist targets, and invading the airspace of a country to launch an attack on civilians?

That's right up there with Dopps not being able to see the difference between the lives of thousands of Americans and 4.

- Feeling Glucky?



Man, you just don't get it do you.

On the anniversary of 9-11, the American Embassy in Libya was attacked by a terrorist organization (they claimed credit for it the day after) they (the White House) watched it unfold in real time with aerial cameras, over 7 to 10 hours, while those being attacked called/e-mailed asking for assistance as they knew their lives were in danger.

American soil was under attack and Obama did nothing, went to bed, and left in the morning for a fundraiser in Colorado.

He, and his administration claimed it was a "spontaneous attack" by a mob protesting a YouTube video, that was released in July, two months earlier.

Evidence has now proven that those at the White House knew the day after, what had really happened, but proceeded with the video cover up attempt for two full weeks, until the truth made in out into the media.

So either the Obama administration is comfortable with lying to A,Americans, or incompetent............make your choice.


What is truly astonishing, is that you are comparing the President staying in Washington because of the Storm (BTW ALL flights were cancelled so he had no choice) with him trying to sweep the lives of four Americans killed in a Terrorist attack, on American soil.
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Oct 30 @ 3:10 AM ET
DOPPLEGANGER: DID OBAMA USE HAARP TO CREATE THE SUPERSTORM OF WRATH AND WIN VOTES FROM REPUBLICAN STRONGHOLDS IN NEW YORK AND CONNECTICUT??
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 30 @ 6:59 AM ET
Man, you just don't get it do you.

On the anniversary of 9-11, the American Embassy in Libya was attacked by a terrorist organization (they claimed credit for it the day after) they (the White House) watched it unfold in real time with aerial cameras, over 7 to 10 hours, while those being attacked called/e-mailed asking for assistance as they knew their lives were in danger.

American soil was under attack and Obama did nothing, went to bed, and left in the morning for a fundraiser in Colorado.

He, and his administration claimed it was a "spontaneous attack" by a mob protesting a YouTube video, that was released in July, two months earlier.

Evidence has now proven that those at the White House knew the day after, what had really happened, but proceeded with the video cover up attempt for two full weeks, until the truth made in out into the media.

So either the Obama administration is comfortable with lying to A,Americans, or incompetent............make your choice.


What is truly astonishing, is that you are comparing the President staying in Washington because of the Storm (BTW ALL flights were cancelled so he had no choice) with him trying to sweep the lives of four Americans killed in a Terrorist attack, on American soil.

- Doppleganger


Yup, Obama should have scrambled jets to bomb that poop.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Oct 30 @ 7:57 AM ET
Yup, Obama should have scrambled jets to bomb that poop.

- Feeling Glucky?

Lets put it this way... you will always find a way to make Obama's decisions look right and we will always look for ways to make them look stupid. i am sick of arguing with you becuase we are not getting anywhere. you feel that watching amercans die is better than sending in people to help because it "may" cause a rift. we feel that no soldier/citizen left behind is a better policy.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Oct 30 @ 9:26 AM ET
Lets put it this way... you will always find a way to make Obama's decisions look right and we will always look for ways to make them look stupid. i am sick of arguing with you becuase we are not getting anywhere. you feel that watching amercans die is better than sending in people to help because it "may" cause a rift. we feel that no soldier/citizen left behind is a better policy.
- SabresFaninIndiana


I agree.
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Oct 30 @ 10:00 AM ET
http://communities.washin...otect-america-terrorists/

http://www.nytimes.com/20....html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://www.sfgate.com/opi...media-coverup-3991624.php




Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 30 @ 10:32 AM ET
Lets put it this way... you will always find a way to make Obama's decisions look right and we will always look for ways to make them look stupid. i am sick of arguing with you becuase we are not getting anywhere. you feel that watching amercans die is better than sending in people to help because it "may" cause a rift. we feel that no soldier/citizen left behind is a better policy.
- SabresFaninIndiana

Obama went with the rational route. The country is looking to lower its military deployments overseas, because of the human and monetary costs. Attacking a nation you're not at war with because of the chance that some of your guys will be killed is only going to increase both those costs.

You guys are looking at the emotional aspect, and dont see a problem with putting more lives at risk to reduce the risk to a few.

Successful nations are run by rational leaders, not emotional ones. And by the way, getting rid of abortions because you feel a blob of cells is a living human, with no science to back it up? Thats an emotional play.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Oct 30 @ 10:38 AM ET
Obama went with the rational route. The country is looking to lower its military deployments overseas, because of the human and monetary costs. Attacking a nation you're not at war with because of the chance that some of your guys will be killed is only going to increase both those costs.

You guys are looking at the emotional aspect, and dont see a problem with putting more lives at risk to reduce the risk to a few.

Successful nations are run by rational leaders, not emotional ones. And by the way, getting rid of abortions because you feel a blob of cells is a living human, with no science to back it up? Thats an emotional play.

- Feeling Glucky?

i am glad that you are willing to rationalize with human lives. i wish i could sleep at night knowing that it was more rational to let someone die while our countries military watched then to send in back ups to attack the rebels (not the country itself) with GROUND TROOPS.

But like i said we are getting no where right now..

Abortion should be one of the lower tier issues during this election. so i am not going to get into that
Doppleganger
Ottawa Senators
Location: Reality
Joined: 08.25.2006

Oct 30 @ 11:27 AM ET
Obama went with the rational route. The country is looking to lower its military deployments overseas, because of the human and monetary costs. Attacking a nation you're not at war with because of the chance that some of your guys will be killed is only going to increase both those costs.

You guys are looking at the emotional aspect, and dont see a problem with putting more lives at risk to reduce the risk to a few.

Successful nations are run by rational leaders, not emotional ones. And by the way, getting rid of abortions because you feel a blob of cells is a living human, with no science to back it up? Thats an emotional play.

- Feeling Glucky?



You mean he went with the coward's route. Then he got caught, and has been lying through his teeth, trying to cover up his weakness as a leader.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Oct 30 @ 11:37 AM ET
You mean he went with the coward's route. Then he got caught, and has been lying through his teeth, trying to cover up his weakness as a leader.
- Doppleganger

the change in altitude messed with his ability to remember if the ambassador was from the the 56th or 57th state..
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 30 @ 3:43 PM ET
i am glad that you are willing to rationalize with human lives. i wish i could sleep at night knowing that it was more rational to let someone die while our countries military watched then to send in back ups to attack the rebels (not the country itself) with GROUND TROOPS.

But like i said we are getting no where right now..

Abortion should be one of the lower tier issues during this election. so i am not going to get into that

- SabresFaninIndiana


Risk thousands of lives or risk a handful. It's not about rationalizing, it's about respecting human life.

And why exactly are women's rights not an important issue?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 30 @ 3:45 PM ET
You mean he went with the coward's route. Then he got caught, and has been lying through his teeth, trying to cover up his weakness as a leader.
- Doppleganger

Yes, thinking things through... such a cowardly concept.


You are clearly a very brave person.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Oct 30 @ 4:20 PM ET
Risk thousands of lives or risk a handful. It's not about rationalizing, it's about respecting human life.

And why exactly are women's rights not an important issue?

- Feeling Glucky?

like i said we are not going to get anywhere i am going to stop with the Benghazi thing

i did not say it was not an important issue i said it is a lower tier issue of this election. The economy and foreign affairs are the larger issues.. Plus the fact that abortion can be handled through senators and other avenues where as national security is the top priority of the Commander in Chief.

Then there is the whole women's rights statement that i hate. What about the right of the unborn child or the father of the unborn child (if the pregnancy is not through rape or causing harm to the mother).. The current approach on Abortion has been largely religious driven and again division church and state, that line gets more destorted when it needs to be..
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Oct 30 @ 4:34 PM ET
good lord, guys. call in to a talk show or something.

ffs.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Oct 30 @ 4:47 PM ET
good lord, guys. call in to a talk show or something.

ffs.

- kicksave856

you keep coming back though don't you
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