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- watsonnostaw

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- Crimsoninja

the Aryan with no muscle tone says to vote for Gary Johnson

This proves you watch FNC, and can't comment on their programming in an educated manner.
- Feeling Glucky?

I watch FNC and other sources of news, and can comment with knowledge on these news outlets.

REMEMBER, these people are allowed to vote!!

Despite numerous public events including a speech at the United Nations and two presidential debates, President Obama still hasn’t publicly and plainly acknowledged to Americans that terrorists killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans in Libya on Sept. 11.

Others in his administration have said it, belatedly. But in the five weeks since the attack, Mr. Obama has skirted the issue, seemingly determined to avoid talking publicly about the nature of the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi.

When Republican nominee Mitt Romney tried to pin down Mr. Obama in their second debate Tuesday on whether he publicly acknowledged the terrorism, the president said he had and told Mr. Romney to “get the transcript,” a reference to his comments on Sept. 12 at the White House about the attack. Moderator Candy Crowley of CNN intervened on the president’s behalf and declared that Mr. Obama had indeed called the attack “an act of terror” on Sept. 12.

But Ms. Crowley’s fact-checking was tilted toward the president. What he actually said on Sept. 12 was: “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation” — a generic declaration, rather than a specific explanation for what happened in Benghazi.

He also said at the time that the U.S. would “reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others,” a reference to the Internet anti-Islam video that the administration was blaming at the time for Arab protests against America, including the violence in Libya.

“By just saying ‘go to the transcript,’ the president could leave the impression that he has been consistent in addressing the attack on Benghazi all along,” said James Carafano, director of foreign policy studies at the conservative Heritage Foundation.

“The responses from the administration have been mixed and muddled. The question is, is this because they can’t properly manage the flow of information, or are they just dodging and tacking to put the president in the best light for re-election? That is the core issue because it brings in question his credibility as commander in chief.”

The president now is pointing to his comments of Sept. 12 as proof that he and his administration didn’t mislead the public about the nature of the Libya attack.

White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters Wednesday that the president believed it was a terrorist attack even though, at the time, intelligence officials were telling him that the attack appeared to stem from protests of the video. He also said that whether it was a spontaneous protest or an organized attack, it should be considered a terrorist act when four Americans are killed.

“That’s why the president referred to it as an act of terror the day after,” Mr. Carney said.

He said that the president not only called the attack terrorism in his Sept. 12 Rose Garden speech, but did so twice more in the days that followed.

“The issue … has always been for him to find out who was responsible, to track them down and to bring them to justice,” the spokesman said.

But for at least two weeks afterward, administration officials continued to portray the assault as an outgrowth of the protests against the video, rather than a terrorist act. Though even since officials did acknowledge that terrorists killed the four Americans, Mr. Obama largely has avoided discussing the attack in the context of terrorism.

On Sept. 14, for example, Mr. Carney said, “We don’t have and did not have concrete evidence to suggest that this was not in reaction to the film.” On the same day, Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta briefed the Senate Armed Services Committee on the attack. Committee Chairman Carl Levin, Michigan Democrat, said after the briefing that he understood that the attack was planned and premeditated. Another U.S. official said: “Everything I have seen says this was a highly armed, organized attack. Not a mob reacting to the movie.”

But the administration’s public stance remained unchanged: On Sept. 16, Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, gave several TV interviews about the attack. “Our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous — not a premeditated — response to what had transpired in Cairo,” she said.

Read more: Obama yet to confirm ‘terrorist’ act in Libya - Washington Times http://www.washingtontime...ed-terrori/#ixzz29f6bLGVT
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By President Barack Hussein Obama
My fellow citizens: I stand here today humbled by the task before us, grateful for the trust you've bestowed, mindful of the sacrifices borne by our ancestors.
I thank President Bush for his service to our nation -- (applause) -- as well as the generosity and cooperation he has shown throughout this transition.
Forty-four Americans have now taken the presidential oath. The words have been spoken during rising tides of prosperity and the still waters of peace. Yet, every so often, the oath is taken amidst gathering clouds and raging storms. At these moments, America has carried on not simply because of the skill or vision of those in high office, but because we, the people, have remained faithful to the ideals of our forebears and true to our founding documents.
So it has been; so it must be with this generation of Americans.
That we are in the midst of crisis is now well understood. Our nation is at war against a far-reaching network of violence and hatred. Our economy is badly weakened, a consequence of greed and irresponsibility on the part of some, but also our collective failure to make hard choices and prepare the nation for a new age. Homes have been lost, jobs shed, businesses shuttered. Our health care is too costly, our schools fail too many -- and each day brings further evidence that the ways we use energy strengthen our adversaries and threaten our planet.
These are the indicators of crisis, subject to data and statistics. Less measurable, but no less profound, is a sapping of confidence across our land; a nagging fear that America's decline is inevitable, that the next generation must lower its sights.
Today I say to you that the challenges we face are real. They are serious and they are many. They will not be met easily or in a short span of time. But know this America: They will be met. (Applause.)
On this day, we gather because we have chosen hope over fear, unity of purpose over conflict and discord. On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn-out dogmas that for far too long have strangled our politics. We remain a young nation. But in the words of Scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things. The time has come to reaffirm our enduring spirit; to choose our better history; to carry forward that precious gift, that noble idea passed on from generation to generation: the God-given promise that all are equal, all are free, and all deserve a chance to pursue their full measure of happiness. (Applause.)
In reaffirming the greatness of our nation we understand that greatness is never a given. It must be earned. Our journey has never been one of short-cuts or settling for less. It has not been the path for the faint-hearted, for those that prefer leisure over work, or seek only the pleasures of riches and fame. Rather, it has been the risk-takers, the doers, the makers of things -- some celebrated, but more often men and women obscure in their labor -- who have carried us up the long rugged path towards prosperity and freedom.
For us, they packed up their few worldly possessions and traveled across oceans in search of a new life. For us, they toiled in sweatshops, and settled the West, endured the lash of the whip, and plowed the hard earth. For us, they fought and died in places like Concord and Gettysburg, Normandy and Khe Sahn.
Time and again these men and women struggled and sacrificed and worked till their hands were raw so that we might live a better life. They saw America as bigger than the sum of our individual ambitions, greater than all the differences of birth or wealth or faction.
This is the journey we continue today. We remain the most prosperous, powerful nation on Earth. Our workers are no less productive than when this crisis began. Our minds are no less inventive, our goods and services no less needed than they were last week, or last month, or last year. Our capacity remains undiminished. But our time of standing pat, of protecting narrow interests and putting off unpleasant decisions -- that time has surely passed. Starting today, we must pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and begin again the work of remaking America. (Applause.)
For everywhere we look, there is work to be done. The state of our economy calls for action, bold and swift. And we will act, not only to create new jobs, but to lay a new foundation for growth. We will build the roads and bridges, the electric grids and digital lines that feed our commerce and bind us together. We'll restore science to its rightful place, and wield technology's wonders to raise health care's quality and lower its cost. We will harness the sun and the winds and the soil to fuel our cars and run our factories. And we will transform our schools and colleges and universities to meet the demands of a new age. All this we can do. All this we will do.
Now, there are some who question the scale of our ambitions, who suggest that our system cannot tolerate too many big plans. Their memories are short, for they have forgotten what this country has already done, what free men and women can achieve when imagination is joined to common purpose, and necessity to courage. What the cynics fail to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath them, that the stale political arguments that have consumed us for so long no longer apply.
The question we ask today is not whether our government is too big or too small, but whether it works -- whether it helps families find jobs at a decent wage, care they can afford, a retirement that is dignified. Where the answer is yes, we intend to move forward. Where the answer is no, programs will end. And those of us who manage the public's dollars will be held to account, to spend wisely, reform bad habits, and do our business in the light of day, because only then can we restore the vital trust between a people and their government.
Nor is the question before us whether the market is a force for good or ill. Its power to generate wealth and expand freedom is unmatched. But this crisis has reminded us that without a watchful eye, the market can spin out of control. The nation cannot prosper long when it favors only the prosperous. The success of our economy has always depended not just on the size of our gross domestic product, but on the reach of our prosperity, on the ability to extend opportunity to every willing heart -- not out of charity, but because it is the surest route to our common good. (Applause.)
As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals. Our Founding Fathers -- (applause) -- our Founding Fathers, faced with perils that we can scarcely imagine, drafted a charter to assure the rule of law and the rights of man -- a charter expanded by the blood of generations. Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience sake. (Applause.)
And so, to all the other peoples and governments who are watching today, from the grandest capitals to the small village where my father was born, know that America is a friend of each nation, and every man, woman and child who seeks a future of peace and dignity. And we are ready to lead once more. (Applause.)
Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with the sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.
We are the keepers of this legacy. Guided by these principles once more we can meet those new threats that demand even greater effort, even greater cooperation and understanding between nations. We will begin to responsibly leave Iraq to its people and forge a hard-earned peace in Afghanistan. With old friends and former foes, we'll work tirelessly to lessen the nuclear threat, and roll back the specter of a warming planet.
We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense. And for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken -- you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you. (Applause.)
For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus, and non-believers. We are shaped by every language and culture, drawn from every end of this Earth; and because we have tasted the bitter swill of civil war and segregation, and emerged from that dark chapter stronger and more united, we cannot help but believe that the old hatreds shall someday pass; that the lines of tribe shall soon dissolve; that as the world grows smaller, our common humanity shall reveal itself; and that America must play its role in ushering in a new era of peace.
To the Muslim world, we seek a new way forward, based on mutual interest and mutual respect. To those leaders around the globe who seek to sow conflict, or blame their society's ills on the West, know that your people will judge you on what you can build, not what you destroy. (Applause.)
To those who cling to power through corruption and deceit and the silencing of dissent, know that you are on the wrong side of history, but that we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist. (Applause.)
To the people of poor nations, we pledge to work alongside you to make your farms flourish and let clean waters flow; to nourish starved bodies and feed hungry minds. And to those nations like ours that enjoy relative plenty, we say we can no longer afford indifference to the suffering outside our borders, nor can we consume the world's resources without regard to effect. For the world has changed, and we must change with it.
As we consider the role that unfolds before us, we remember with humble gratitude those brave Americans who at this very hour patrol far-off deserts and distant mountains. They have something to tell us, just as the fallen heroes who lie in Arlington whisper through the ages.
We honor them not only because they are the guardians of our liberty, but because they embody the spirit of service -- a willingness to find meaning in something greater than themselves.
And yet at this moment, a moment that will define a generation, it is precisely this spirit that must inhabit us all. For as much as government can do, and must do, it is ultimately the faith and determination of the American people upon which this nation relies. It is the kindness to take in a stranger when the levees break, the selflessness of workers who would rather cut their hours than see a friend lose their job which sees us through our darkest hours. It is the firefighter's courage to storm a stairway filled with smoke, but also a parent's willingness to nurture a child that finally decides our fate.
Our challenges may be new. The instruments with which we meet them may be new. But those values upon which our success depends -- honesty and hard work, courage and fair play, tolerance and curiosity, loyalty and patriotism -- these things are old. These things are true. They have been the quiet force of progress throughout our history.
What is demanded, then, is a return to these truths. What is required of us now is a new era of responsibility -- a recognition on the part of every American that we have duties to ourselves, our nation and the world; duties that we do not grudgingly accept, but rather seize gladly, firm in the knowledge that there is nothing so satisfying to the spirit, so defining of our character than giving our all to a difficult task.
This is the price and the promise of citizenship. This is the source of our confidence -- the knowledge that God calls on us to shape an uncertain destiny. This is the meaning of our liberty and our creed, why men and women and children of every race and every faith can join in celebration across this magnificent mall; and why a man whose father less than 60 years ago might not have been served in a local restaurant can now stand before you to take a most sacred oath. (Applause.)
So let us mark this day with remembrance of who we are and how far we have traveled. In the year of America's birth, in the coldest of months, a small band of patriots huddled by dying campfires on the shores of an icy river. The capital was abandoned. The enemy was advancing. The snow was stained with blood. At the moment when the outcome of our revolution was most in doubt, the father of our nation ordered these words to be read to the people:
"Let it be told to the future world...that in the depth of winter, when nothing but hope and virtue could survive... that the city and the country, alarmed at one common danger, came forth to meet [it]."
America: In the face of our common dangers, in this winter of our hardship, let us remember these timeless words. With hope and virtue, let us brave once more the icy currents, and endure what storms may come. Let it be said by our children's children that when we were tested we refused to let this journey end, that we did not turn back nor did we falter; and with eyes fixed on the horizon and God's grace upon us, we carried forth that great gift of freedom and delivered it safely to future generations.
Thank you. God bless you. And God bless the United States of America. (Applause.)

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- watsonnostaw

Dear Friends:

The election is coming up on all of us and we all have strong feelings about it. I’ve been getting asked a lot about where I stand, so for those who are interested, here goes.

This presidential election is different than the last one because President Obama has a four year record to run on. Last time around, he carried with him a tremendous amount of hope and expectations. Unfortunately, due to the economic chaos the previous administration left him with, and the extraordinary intensity of the opposition, it turned into a really rough ride. But through grit, determination, and focus, the President has been able to do a great many things that many of us deeply support.

Domestically, that record includes working to increase and expand employment for all, protecting our all important social safety net, passing guaranteed health care for most of our citizens, with important new protections for all of the insured, rescuing the auto industry and so many of the American jobs that go with it, protecting and enhancing the rights of women, and bringing us closer to full acceptance of our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters.

In foreign affairs, that record includes following through on the removal of troops from the misguided and deceptive war in Iraq, and vigorously pursuing our real foreign enemies, especially the killing of Osama Bin Laden.

Right now the opposition’s resort to voter suppression in so many states is not receiving as much attention as it deserves. I believe that all of us, of whatever views, should be opposing these anti-voter, anti-citizen efforts.

Right now, for the President to be effective in his next term he needs our increased support and he needs support in the Congress, where some sterling candidates, such as current Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio, challenger Elizabeth Warren in Massachusetts, and so many others, are fighting to make their constructive voices heard.

Right now, there is an ever increasing division of wealth in this country, with the benefits going more and more to the 1 percent. For me, President Obama is our best choice to begin to reverse this harmful development.

Right now, there is a fight going on to help make this a fairer and more equitable nation. For me, President Obama is our best choice to get us and keep us moving in the right direction.

Right now, we need a President who has a vision that includes all of our citizens, not just some, whether they are our devastated poor, our pressured middle class, and yes, the wealthy too; whether they are male or female, black, white, brown, or yellow, straight or gay, civilian or military.

Right now, there is a choice going on in America, and I’m happy that we live in a country where we all participate in that process. For me, President Obama is our best choice because he has a vision of the United States as a place where we are all in this together. We’re still living through very hard times but justice, equality and real freedom are not always a tide rushing in. They are more often a slow march, inch by inch, day after long day. I believe President Obama feels these days in his bones and has the strength to live them with us and to lead us to a country “…where no one crowds you and no one goes it alone.”

That’s why I plan to be in Ohio and Iowa supporting the re-election of President Obama to lead our country for the next four years.

Bruce Springsteen

https://twitter.com/Romneys_Binder
- watsonnostaw

probably the most retarded statement for people to focus on from the debate.... A knowledgable person listening to the debate would have understood the left out word of resumes and not batted an eye about it. But the people looking for anything to demine and attack someone would pull that out and use it as an argument just like the stupid Big Bird crap pulled from the first debate. Stick to the real issues that were discussed and the questions that were rarely answered.

The media just like the government needs a complete overhaul

probably the most retarded statement for people to focus on from the debate.... A knowledgable person listening to the debate would have understood the left out word of resumes and not batted an eye about it. But the people looking for anything to demine and attack someone would pull that out and use it as an argument just like the stupid Big Bird crap pulled from the first debate. Stick to the real issues that were discussed and the questions that were rarely answered.

The media just like the government needs a complete overhaul
- SabresFaninIndiana

Well, the fact that he can't come up with more details about his financial plans than killing big-bird is pretty telling.

And the issue behind the "binders" comment is that basically everything about that story is pure BS.

Well, the fact that he can't come up with more details about his financial plans than killing big-bird is pretty telling.

And the issue behind the "binders" comment is that basically everything about that story is pure BS.
- Feeling Glucky?

The binders thing blew up before anyone had any idea on whether that was true or not... from what i have heard parts are correct but probably stretched.

as for the big bird thing.. that has nothing to do with why that blew up... He gave one example and the democrats actually made him out to be a bad person for cutting funding to a public access group that would find a way if they are that important.. I agree it would be nice to find out more of his financial plans but to say that is the reason on that is for the most part false. it is hipsters and social media wanting to feel like they are on the in and up on politics

The binders thing blew up before anyone had any idea on whether that was true or not... from what i have heard parts are correct but probably stretched.

as for the big bird thing.. that has nothing to do with why that blew up... He gave one example and the democrats actually made him out to be a bad person for cutting funding to a public access group that would find a way if they are that important.. I agree it would be nice to find out more of his financial plans but to say that is the reason on that is for the most part false. it is hipsters and social media wanting to feel like they are on the in and up on politics
- SabresFaninIndiana

I can't find the article I was reading about this... really wish I could... (edit: not the article I read, but this one has some of the same points: http://www.washingtonpost...55-71f2b202721b_blog.html) but basically here are the problems with his statement:
1)He did not approach any group, they came to him with a binder of women's resumes.
2)The women he hired from that binder were put in low-priority positions
3)The number of women in high-level positions within his government actually went down while he was there.

And then there's the whole thing talking about how he let the one woman go home early to cook dinner for her family. Now, IMO, it's a nice gesture on his part(provided it's true) and probably helped that woman out. But choosing that example to show how nice he is to women kinda reveals his view on gender roles- stuck a few decades back.

But you are right, the media, and a lot of people in general, are far too focused on soundbites, rather than the important parts.

Something that really concerns me on both sides is all the talk about clean coal. It's complete bullpoop. Coal is the dirtiest form of electricity production. Romney is talking about how much he likes coal, and Obama attacked him for closing a coal plant. That's just wrong for both sides. Obama should be pushing the other forms of energy production he's encouraging, and Romney should be focusing on the fact that he's no friend to coal. If you're going to talk fossil fuels, at least go natural gas. If you want real clean energy independence, look at salt-based solar thermal plants. It's so discouraging listening to both the candidates arguing over who's a bigger friend to coal.


edit2: the question that lead to the binders remark was about pay equity, and Romney didn't actually address that, probably because the women he hired saw 20% less than men in similar roles... which is about the same as the national average.

I can't find the article I was reading about this... really wish I could... (edit: not the article I read, but this one has some of the same points: http://www.washingtonpost...55-71f2b202721b_blog.html) but basically here are the problems with his statement:
1)He did not approach any group, they came to him with a binder of women's resumes.
2)The women he hired from that binder were put in low-priority positions
3)The number of women in high-level positions within his government actually went down while he was there.

And then there's the whole thing talking about how he let the one woman go home early to cook dinner for her family. Now, IMO, it's a nice gesture on his part(provided it's true) and probably helped that woman out. But choosing that example to show how nice he is to women kinda reveals his view on gender roles- stuck a few decades back.

But you are right, the media, and a lot of people in general, are far too focused on soundbites, rather than the important parts.

Something that really concerns me on both sides is all the talk about clean coal. It's complete bullpoop. Coal is the dirtiest form of electricity production. Romney is talking about how much he likes coal, and Obama attacked him for closing a coal plant. That's just wrong for both sides. Obama should be pushing the other forms of energy production he's encouraging, and Romney should be focusing on the fact that he's no friend to coal. If you're going to talk fossil fuels, at least go natural gas. If you want real clean energy independence, look at salt-based solar thermal plants. It's so discouraging listening to both the candidates arguing over who's a bigger friend to coal.
- Feeling Glucky?

I read an article about it as well I believe they came to him and his opponent before the election and told them they need to hire women. It was a poor choice of words and a poor story to lead with but the fact that people didn't focus on that but did on the least important part of it tells you something. To me the fact that it is even discussed let's you know there is a problem. I think Romney saw a bump in his approval with women and tried to go after it. He should have continued to go after like he did in the previous debate, by not bringing it up. Real women (not feminists) feel equal when you don't talk about why and hoe you can treat them equally..

We have been hearing about energy Independence for the past 5 elections I will believe it when I see it and will not base any vote on that because of this

Edit t the edit: probably true. I don't see the problem, I have hired and do hire women when they are qualified. Give me a qualified person for the job I don't care about the race gender or anything. That is how it should be.

I read an article about it as well I believe they came to him and his opponent before the election and told them they need to hire women. It was a poor choice of words and a poor story to lead with but the fact that people didn't focus on that but did on the least important part of it tells you something. To me the fact that it is even discussed let's you know there is a problem. I think Romney saw a bump in his approval with women and tried to go after it. He should have continued to go after like he did in the previous debate, by not bringing it up. Real women (not feminists) feel equal when you don't talk about why and hoe you can treat them equally..

We have been hearing about energy Independence for the past 5 elections I will believe it when I see it and will not base any vote on that because of this

Edit t the edit: probably true. I don't see the problem, I have hired and do hire women when they are qualified. Give me a qualified person for the job I don't care about the race gender or anything. That is how it should be.
- SabresFaninIndiana

But yea, you're right, he's going after a demo he saw some traction with, but it might cost him. I think he needs to try and keep up appearance with women to make up for the fact that he plans on hurting women's rights(ie. no abortions- because of reli*ahem*-science).

- Feeling_Glucky

exactly