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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 28 @ 9:30 AM ET
this statement is ridiculous
- Dozzer


Wrong emoticon
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 28 @ 9:32 AM ET
I think it was code for 'he'll be dead'.

So has preseason changed your opinion at all about Komi making the top 6? Still a couple of games left and Gunnar and Aulie didn't look especially good last night but it seems that the tide is working against Komi a little bit.

Anybody see the Sportsnet interview with Dennis Potvin? He said that Liles and Franson have been the Leafs best d'men in preseason. Not sure I agree but interesting view.

- The Law


that will probably make him a better player lol

as for the leafs defense, i stand by my statement that Komisarek will be the 5th guy unless Burke moves him. As for the best d-man, I would say gunnarsson personally
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 28 @ 9:33 AM ET
It wasn't you, you seem to be always respectful around here, just the way it is here, you make a suggestion or opinion and you get ridiculed for it at times, I always or try always to say "I think" or "in my opinion" I don't speak for all Leaf fans and try not to give an opinion as fact, I try to keep it to just me.
- LeafMan


I will say that the respect level has improved in the last 3 or 4 years.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 28 @ 9:34 AM ET
I blame Dozzer
- AdamFrench


as well you should
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 28 @ 9:34 AM ET
Wrong emoticon
- The Law


i can never do anything right
iLive4theLeafs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm back!
Joined: 12.04.2007

Sep 28 @ 9:38 AM ET
this statement is ridiculous
- Dozzer



Are you speculating or opining?
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 28 @ 9:39 AM ET
that will probably make him a better player lol

as for the leafs defense, i stand by my statement that Komisarek will be the 5th guy unless Burke moves him. As for the best d-man, I would say gunnarsson personally

- Dozzer


I think so too. He had a bad 1st period last night but I'll cut him some slack b/c it was a new partner and it's gotta take some time to adjust to playing with Dion. I really haven't noticed Franson that much ....that might be a good thing. I think RW might stick with those top 4 now Gun-Pha and Lil-Sch. I assume Gardiner goes down unless a trade happens so that leave Aulie-Franson-Komisarek battling for 5-6-7. Aulie's the only lefty in the group. It'll be interesting to see who Komi gets paired with Friday.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 28 @ 9:39 AM ET
Are you speculating or opining?
- iLive4theLeafs


clearly ridiculing.
13LEAFS01
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: toronto, ON
Joined: 06.01.2007

Sep 28 @ 9:44 AM ET
first

how meany games for neil?

- The_Vark


I say at least 5 regular season games.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Sep 28 @ 9:45 AM ET
Brendan Shanahan has kind of worked himself into a bit of a jam with his tough (perhaps over-the-top in some cases) suspensions.

Now the precedent is set that an illegal hit gets an automatic suspension - a severe one at that - and if he deviates from that benchmark at all, he will be slammed for inconsistency. He'll eventually be demonized even worse than Campbell... although Campbell did deserve the flak he took.

But if he continues to go with the 3-8 game route for every illegal hit, then people will get sick of it. Heck, I'm already getting sick of it and the season hasn't started yet.

With the way Shanny is calling it, there could very well be a suspension per day all season long. I understand deterrence, but there's also such a thing as desensitization.

- Leeman4Gilmour


This is kind of the point. EVERY illegal/dangerous hit SHOULD be suspended. Who gives a (frank) if people get sick of it. Once the players figure out what's allowed and what's not, they either change the way they hit, or get suspended longer and longer. Either way, you get the bad hits out of the game, which is exactly his intention.

LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Sep 28 @ 9:46 AM ET
I say at least 5 regular season games.
- 13LEAFS01

Kypreos says the league is leaning towards none. Everything Neal does is intentional and every one should know it by now.
p_zub
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Sep 28 @ 9:48 AM ET
Kypreos say the league is leaning towards none. Everything Neal does is intentional and every one should know it by now.
- LeafMan


I have a feeling Shanny will feel different ly with the close similarities to Steckels hit on Crosby.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 28 @ 9:51 AM ET
clearly ridiculing.
- The Law


not at all, i actually completely agree with you

just keeping things light

Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 28 @ 9:51 AM ET
Kypreos says the league is leaning towards none. Everything Neal does is intentional and every one should know it by now.
- LeafMan

check PM
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 28 @ 9:52 AM ET
This is kind of the point. EVERY illegal/dangerous hit SHOULD be suspended. Who gives a (frank) if people get sick of it. Once the players figure out what's allowed and what's not, they either change the way they hit, or get suspended longer and longer. Either way, you get the bad hits out of the game, which is exactly his intention.
- Big_Lightnin


i agree with this, players will learn to adjust

but typically people will come down on shanny if he gives out a lighter suspension to someone else... a players past record does come into play as well, its not soley based on the offense itself
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Sep 28 @ 9:52 AM ET
I have a feeling Shanny will feel different ly with the close similarities to Steckels hit on Crosby.
- p_zub


thats EXACTLY the same thing i thought, i think he nails neil with a 5 gamer. (total).

its eerily similar to the crosby hit in the winter classic.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 28 @ 9:53 AM ET
Kypreos says the league is leaning towards none. Everything Neal does is intentional and every one should know it by now.
- LeafMan


and people were trying to tell me orr is no longer needed

guys like neil are exactly why orr is needed
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 28 @ 9:55 AM ET
I have a feeling Shanny will feel different ly with the close similarities to Steckels hit on Crosby.
- p_zub



The problem is the "stepping into him" looks like him bracing for the other player which might be his excuse to get him off the hook.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Sep 28 @ 9:55 AM ET
check PM
- Schenn-Sational!

Sent reply.
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 28 @ 9:55 AM ET
and people were trying to tell me orr is no longer needed

guys like neil are exactly why orr is needed

- Dozzer

No, guys like Neil is why you sign a guy who's existence on the team you don't care about, with the sole purpose of the 1 shift he'll play in the NHL- which if things go well, will be the other guy's last shift.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 28 @ 9:56 AM ET
and people were trying to tell me orr is no longer needed

guys like neil are exactly why orr is needed

- Dozzer

Why? Orr never cheapshots people back, Neil won't fight him and it's not like Orr can just start a fight if Neil doesn't want to. What good will him being there do? He wouldn't even be on the ice to retaliate.
HipHopisDead
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 10.28.2008

Sep 28 @ 9:56 AM ET
Kypreos says the league is leaning towards none. Everything Neal does is intentional and every one should know it by now.
- LeafMan


Agree with you there. It was obviously intentional. He should get a suspension.

Still think Kadri out played Frattin... again. He was in a much more difficult spot playing centre with Kessel... then playing along the boards with Armstrong.
Kadr much more of a offensive threat and if he plays with Bozak and Armstrong he can provide more skill to that line than Frattin will. Kadri assisted on the first goal, put a good screen on the goalie which change Liles mind for passing to shot, which then got the Leafs going.

He's also 2-3 years younger.

IMO - putting Kadri back in the AHL this year will slow his mental development for the NHL game.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 28 @ 9:57 AM ET
not at all, i actually completely agree with you

just keeping things light

- Dozzer


I was too ....Truism #1 - do not take anything serious that 'The Law' types.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 28 @ 9:59 AM ET
No, guys like Neil is why you sign a guy who's existence on the team you don't care about, with the sole purpose of the 1 shift he'll play in the NHL- which if things go well, will be the other guy's last shift.
- Schenn-Sational!


a hockey hitman

interesting....
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 28 @ 9:59 AM ET
I was too ....Truism #1 - do not take anything serious that 'The Law' types.
- The Law

not taking this seriously means that I should take you seriously. but if I should take you seriously, then this says that I shouldn't take you seriously.



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