But Karlsson's +/- is terrible, he can't be good.
Pierre also said Schenn was a franchise Dman.

And the link to the signing was posted directly above your comment
- Schenn-Sational!

Did not click on it until right now.

Funny how it's dated 9/16/2011 7:50:58 AM, and I commented hours before that.

Schenn got less than Staal's deal in New York, so that's really a fair deal.

Did not click on it until right now.

Funny how it's dated 9/16/2011 7:50:58 AM, and I commented hours before that.
- Doppleganger

Whoa, daeth posted a link from the future!

Did not click on it until right now.

Funny how it's dated 9/16/2011 7:50:58 AM, and I commented hours before that.
- Doppleganger

thats just when the article was updated with more information.

thats just when the article was updated with more information.
- sens rock

Nope. Daeth has a TARDIS.

But Karlsson's +/- is terrible, he can't be good.
Pierre also said Schenn was a franchise Dman.

And the link to the signing was posted directly above your comment
- Schenn-Sational!

Karlsson was also on one of the worst teams last year with no NHL goaltender for 75% of the season. He was +1 after anderson was acquired. Not great but a hell of alot better than when elliot was in nets.

Karlsson was also on one of the worst teams last year with no NHL goaltender for 75% of the season. He was +1 after anderson was acquired. Not great but a hell of alot better than when elliot was in nets.
- sens rock

Doesn't matter. Terrible +/-, terrible player. Just ask Dopps.

Doesn't matter. Terrible +/-, terrible player. Just ask Dopps.
- Schenn-Sational!

I missed that insight from him....

so i gues toni lydman is a top 5 dman then?

I missed that insight from him....

so i gues toni lydman is a top 5 dman then?
- sens rock

Nope, his salary isn't top-5, so he can't be a top-5 dman

Nope, his salary isn't top-5, so he can't be a top-5 dman
- Schenn-Sational!

oh so brian campbell? or is his +/- not high enough?

oh so brian campbell? or is his +/- not high enough?
- sens rock

I don't know, we should ask McGuire

as desperate as I was to make a point, I would never go to the Pierre Mcguire well for help..

as desperate as I was to make a point, I would never go to the Pierre Mcguire well for help..
- senstroll

Few of us would ever be as desperate as dopps

Karlsson was also on one of the worst teams last year with no NHL goaltender for 75% of the season. He was +1 after anderson was acquired. Not great but a hell of alot better than when elliot was in nets.
- sens rock

So according to some, the worse the team is, the better the players are. At least that's the logic used to explain why Schenn is better than Myers, despite the difference in their stats and now their "comparable" salaries.

So according to some, the worse the team is, the better the players are. At least that's the logic used to explain why Schenn is better than Myers, despite the difference in their stats and now their "comparable" salaries.
- Doppleganger

Lol, who said Schenn is better than MYers? Maybe defensively, bu overall definately not.

Lol, who said Schenn is better than MYers? Maybe defensively, bu overall definately not.
- mfreedman

Here was the exchange, so you can see the context, and the contention that Schenn is better than Myers.

So as leaf GM you would not trade Schenn for Myers, if he was offered straight up?
- Doppleganger

nope. Schenn destroys him defensively and physically, all Myers has on him is the offense side of things, and we have other guys to deal with that... and Myers wasn't even that great offensively last year, probably just a sophomore slump though.
- Schenn-Sational!

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So according to some, the worse the team is, the better the players are. At least that's the logic used to explain why Schenn is better than Myers, despite the difference in their stats and now their "comparable" salaries.
- Doppleganger

No, that's the explanation as to why one player's +/- is lower, as has been explained, you bloody moron.

No, that's the explanation as to why one player's +/- is lower, as has been explained, you bloody moron.
- Schenn-Sational!

So NOW you agree that Myers is better than Schenn.

I asked if you would trade Schenn for Myers straight up..........you can't deny that.

Sorry I did not notice that the wind had shifted.

So NOW you agree that Myers is better than Schenn.

Sorry I did not notice that the wind had shifted.
- Doppleganger

No, I don't.

Nobody made the argument that Schenn was better than Myers because he was on a worse team. If you thought they were, you're an even bigger idiot than I ever thought.

No, I don't.

Nobody made the argument that Schenn was better than Myers because he was on a worse team. If you thought they were, you're an even bigger idiot than I ever thought.
- Schenn-Sational!

Well you're alone in that line of thinking, even mfreedman thinks as I do, that Myers is the better defenseman to have on any team or Schenn if given the choice.

I would trade Karlsson for Myers, straight up, in a heartbeat.

But you wouldn't take Myers for Schenn.

Well you're alone in that line of thinking, even mfreedman thinks as I do, that Myers is the better defenseman to have on any team or Schenn if given the choice.

I would trade Karlsson for Myers, straight up, in a heartbeat.

But you wouldn't take Myers for Schenn.
- Doppleganger

Well of course you'd trade Karlsson for Myers, If the Leafs had Karlsson, I'd trade him for Myers too.

Well of course you'd trade Karlsson for Myers, If the Leafs had Karlsson, I'd trade him for Myers too.
- Schenn-Sational!

Dude, I think you would be pretty close to alone when you say you wouldn't trade Schenn for Myers straight up. Myers was a gamble on behalf of the Sabres, but it turned out for them, and he's a total stud.

That said, him and Doughty are the only two young Dmen I WOULD trade him for.

Dude, I think you would be pretty close to alone when you say you wouldn't trade Schenn for Myers straight up. Myers was a gamble on behalf of the Sabres, but it turned out for them, and he's a total stud.

That said, him and Doughty are the only two young Dmen I WOULD trade him for.
- prock

I might trade Schenn for Pietrangelo, too.... Need to see more of him, but he looked good this season.

I think myers is overrated... He looks a lot like young phaneuf, with less offense and less physicality... Hell, even his contract looks like Phaneuf's

Here was the exchange, so you can see the context, and the contention that Schenn is better than Myers.







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- Doppleganger

That was who he would take, not necessarily who was better

For instance, I am biased when it comes to Aulie, and probably wouldnt take a player who I think is better than Aulie in exchange for him because I think he is a great player and I want to keep him.

However that doesn't mean this guy doesn't think Schenn is actually better, I'd like to talk to him about it, but I think I am correct in saying that most leaf fans would say that Myers is the better overall player currently

I might trade Schenn for Pietrangelo, too.... Need to see more of him, but he looked good this season.

I think myers is overrated... He looks a lot like young phaneuf, with less offense and less physicality... Hell, even his contract looks like Phaneuf's
- Schenn-Sational!

Yeah, Pietrangelo... Maybe.