So a rookie season at age 21 with:

41GP

24 wins, .920%, and a 2.56GAA

can't be considered good?

Real risky considering Dubnyk is 0 for 2 on season's capable of being considered good...
- ehabs9

That's just half a season. Didn't he lose his job going into the playoffs?

Eklund: Source: Canadiens May Have A Taker for Gomez Today.
- Eklund

I don't see the Habs trading Gomez.. they are $5M+ under the cap and don't have a vet to take over his place in the line up.

So unless the Habs are taking back a big contract and/or some veteran center back (or in another transaction), Gomez is not going anywhere.

I get confused with leaf fans.
On the one hand they say the only reason the habs have any success and are ahead of the leafs is "because of Price"
And when someone mentions him in a trade he is likely the next Raycroft.
So which is it?
- thebigbird

Well, Raycroft had one good season too you know. Won the Calder.

Why are you trying to understand trolls?
- Scabeh

ding ding ding. we have a winner.

ok sorry lets try this again

ok guys lets play a game cuz im bored at work....

you pick two teams that didnt make the playoffs last year and we decide if you combine the two teams that they would make the playoffs this year.

first up..
edmonton and calgary


edit:ill just make a list...

panthers and leafs
ottawa and NJ
winnipeg and NYI
carolina and st. louis
minnesota and dallas
columbus and colorado
- boltsfan48

As in take the best players from both teams to create a new team? In that case I think they would all make it. It would be interesting to created projected line combos though.

you know what would be hilarious...

if toronto makes the playoffs this year and the habs dont.

we would never hear the end of it for the first 4 games of the playoffs till the leafs got swept by tampa in the 1 vs 8 matchup.

That's just half a season. Didn't he lose his job going into the playoffs?
- prock

He actually stole Huet's job.

Good try tough.

That's just half a season. Didn't he lose his job going into the playoffs?
- prock

No, that would be Huet who lost his job. 41Gp is far more than half a season, a lot of starting goalies do 50-60. Just because Price did 72 last year doesn't mean 41 is half a season.

No, that would be Huet who lost his job. 41Gp is far more than half a season, most starting goalies do 50-60. Just because Price did 72 last year doesn't mean 41 is half a season for him.
- ehabs9

Oh you're right, he just flopped badly. But they let him keep his job till next season. My mistake. Sorry.

Well, Raycroft had one good season too you know. Won the Calder.
- prock

So the habs success is dependent on a Raycroft esque type Goalie?
Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

wow to this thread.. u guys are crazy haha.

This is all on Gomez. First of all, if he would've stayed in NJ for less than the insane contract he got in NY, he wouldn't have as much pressure, he'd be playing with Patrik Elias and Brian Gionta (obviously just Gionta isn't enough), and he's have a lot more success than he's had since leaving NJ. I'd keep him for 27mil/6 years, a 4.5 cap hit.. which is decent, especially at the time of the deal, 4.5 was then what 5.5 is today. He was a good #1 center playing with Elias, but NY paid him like he was Pavel Datsyuk and he went for the money. Too bad.

Parise-Zajac-Palmieri
Elias-Gomez-Gionta
Tedenby-Josefson-Clarkson

would've been a pretty darn good lineup. Maybe a little small, but skilled and lots of depth.
- MartysBetter88

I never really blame the player for taking the money.

If your boss says... hey, we are gonna give you a $20K raise. Would you say... Nah, I just think I will take $5K, thanks.

I get confused with leaf fans.
On the one hand they say the only reason the habs have any success and are ahead of the leafs is "because of Price"
And when someone mentions him in a trade he is likely the next Raycroft.
So which is it?
- thebigbird

Breaking News
AHL has desided that only one team can represent the Toronto region.
So who goes Leafs or Marlies?

rumors

So the habs success is dependent on a Raycroft esque type Goalie?
Sounds like a recipe for disaster.
- thebigbird

Well, we don't know that yet. We'll have to see this year if he goes back to the way he was the rest of his career.

Oh you're right, he just flopped badly. But they let him keep his job till next season. My mistake. Sorry.
- prock

I'm just playing Devil's advocate here, because I think Rinne is a beast, but if Price has only had one 'good' season, than the same can really be said for Rinne.

I mean according to you anything under a .920 isn't 'good', and his 2 prior seasons at 52 and 58 games were really only half seasons so...

I'm just playing Devil's advocate here, because I think Rinne is a beast, but if Price has only had one 'good' season, than the same can really be said for Rinne.
- ehabs9

Yes.

but Rinne was even better than Price.

Breaking News
AHL has desided that only one team can represent the Toronto region.
So who goes Leafs or Marlies?
- habs12

I'd go with the Marlies. Better try something new than something that keeps failing.

AMIRIGHT LOL!?!?!

Yes.

but Rinne was even better than Price.
- prock

Ok, so Rinne is a risk too though. I mean "he could go back to the way he's played the rest of his career."

edmonton and calgary
the oily flames:
hall horcoff iggy
smyth jokinen hemsky
bourque eberle tanguay
MPS stajan omark

whitney jaybo
smid gilbert
sarich barker

kipper
khabby

yea that team would make the playoffs.

Ok, so Rinne is a risk too though. He could go back to the way he's played the rest of his career.
- ehabs9

Of course. I'm very fair about these things. Both goalies ;may have had their breakout season, or could be one hit wonders. But obviously Rinne was better last year, so overall, he's been better.

He also doesn't cry in post-game interviews.

Yes.

but Rinne was even better than Price.
- prock

Rinne had a much better D corps... and statistically, the difference was not that great.

Fair enough to say Price needs to do it again, but I would not suggest that Rinne is a much better player than Price.

Ek, you're stupid. Stop posting crap that you know is straight bs.

and who else on defense?
- boltsfan48

volchenkov, tallinder, greene, fayne, salvador.......but if ya know the devils its more about the system then the players, how do you explain them being top 5 other than last year (9th even after terrible horrific abysmal start) and yes that includes without stevens, nieds etc.......

btw hows roloson doing? looked like he needed life support last time i saw him

Rinne had a much better D corps... and statistically, the difference was not that great.

Fair enough to say Price needs to do it again, but I would not suggest that Rinne is a much better player than Price.
- JDJ

oh, I didn't say MUCH better.

Of course. I'm very fair about these things. Both goalies ;may have had their breakout season, or could be one hit wonders. But obviously Rinne was better last year, so overall, he's been better.

He also doesn't cry in post-game interviews.
- prock

Well that doesn't make much sense...He was better last year yes, that doesn't mean he's been better overall. Price had better statics leading up to last year, but that doesn't come into play?

I don't think it's fair to say who's better until after at least this next season.