That's not true. Hagman got a career year with a very good Stars team and both he and Ponikarovsky get second line minutes (avg. 16 minutes+ a night)
- RogerRoeper

Don't try to cloud the issue with facts.

honestly theres way to much burke ass kissing, i like how they are already applauding his draft when none of the players have gone pro.

i love how he wouldn't trade luke schenn to get John Tavares, yeah Luke is lookin' great right now.......

honestly theres way to much burke ass kissing, i like how they are already applauding his draft when none of the players have gone pro.

i love how he wouldn't trade luke schenn to get John Tavares, yeah Luke is lookin' great right now.......
- FirstClass

Almost as good as your god Ryan Getzlaf and his top 5-esque play of 4 goals.

Don't try to cloud the issue with facts.
- Leafy_84

you keep defending an abysmal team with facts. Hagman is our star ... we have kessel but it was at to high a cost imo, and I would reverse that trade if I could

I am as big a leafs fan as anyone here, I have just had enough losing... I would love to see a playoff game..but its 5+ years now

They were easily the better team, so yes, they deserved a better fate.
- RogerRoeper

Good teams find a way to win.

Good teams find a way to win.
- hello_there

Good teams don't get hemmed into their end for large portions of the game by supposedly bad teams.

Good teams don't get hemmed into their end for large portions of the game by supposedly bad teams.
- Crusty Sucks

Good teams can have bad games but they find a way to win.

Good teams don't get hemmed into their end for large portions of the game by supposedly bad teams.
- Crusty Sucks

good teams make the playoffs ... hell even semi-bad teams sometimes make the playoffs....the leafs cant even pretend to be that.

I would rather be the "hemmed" you mention and win..than get an "A" for your extra hard effort and go home the loser

Almost as good as your god Ryan Getzlaf and his top 5-esque play of 4 goals.
- Holy-Mackinaw

Ryan Getzlaf is top 10 in scoring, hes a passer first and BTW Both his linemates are on pace for 40 goals, know your role.

He's 14th , and I guess thats why he has so many assists eh?

Nice try failtard.

http://sports.yahoo.com/n...se&conference=NHL&sort=14

tied for 11th, and most of those directly ahead have played a few more games, good try leaf fan, don't know why you'd even bash a guy who would be by far your best player

Almost as good as your god Ryan Getzlaf and his top 5-esque play of 4 goals.
- Holy-Mackinaw

Getzlaf is easily top 5 in the west. Don't kid yourself.

Getzlaf is easily top 5 in the west. Don't kid yourself.
- bureforearthsprez

FC was debating him over Crosby earlier IIRC, and that, is pure stupidity

Agree.

FC was debating him over Crosby earlier IIRC, and that, is pure stupidity
- keslover17

He has more points than Crosby and is way more physical

He has more points than Crosby and is way more physical
- FirstClass

Wait, so you really do think Getzlaf is a more valuable player than Crosby?

Getzlaf is easily top 5 in the west. Don't kid yourself.
- bureforearthsprez

He's a great player but he made a thread trying to call him the best player in the league.

Wait, so you really do think Getzlaf is a more valuable player than Crosby?
- bureforearthsprez

This year he's been better, especially over the last month, the numbers back me up, hype does not=facts

He's a great player but he made a thread trying to call him the best player in the league.
- Holy-Mackinaw

WRONG

I said he was on the same level as those players which hes PROVING by being on pace for almost 100 points.

This year he's been better, especially over the last month, the numbers back me up, hype does not=facts
- FirstClass

This year he has played better, but Crosby has, and always will be, the superior hockey player.

If you can't make the distinction between those two things, may God have mercy on your soul.

WRONG

I said he was on the same level as those players which hes PROVING by being on pace for almost 100 points.
- FirstClass

Cool, the funny thing about that is he never got 100 points and has just two more points than Thomas Kaberle.

This year he has played better, but Crosby has, and always will be, the superior hockey player.

If you can't make the distinction between those two things, may God have mercy on your soul.
- bureforearthsprez

so even if getzlaf plays better, like he did in last years playoffs where the pens were carried by malkin, crosby is still better........ok......

Cool, the funny thing about that is he never got 100 points and has just two more points than Thomas Kaberle.
- Holy-Mackinaw

hes got 24 points in his last 16 after a slow start due to recovery from hernia, if he continues on a pace anywhere near that he will pass 100 and with his linemates I can see him getting 70-80 assists

Getzlaf is amazing. I would take him on the Leafs in a heartbeat.

Getzlaf and Kessel with whoever else would be a deadly line.

Kessel is da man. 2 more goals tonight.

If they had him since the start they'd be in a playoff spot now.