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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 11 @ 5:49 PM ET
Don't expect logic from any of these guys. A 50 year history of chronic losing, the Leafs have a nice year and they start talking dynasty. It so easy to laugh at them when they fail.
- spatso



Spatso talkin logic spatso talking about laughing at others.....so much irony

GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 11 @ 7:50 PM ET
Please explain what stats you're using to make the claim that Karlsson is "bad defensively" .......... and where he ranks defensively, compared to other offensive type D men in the NHL.



Thanks




EDIT: It's been an hour ...............crickets

- D0PPELGANGER


Watch him. He is not good in his own end. Nor is Liljegrin right now. They hand the puck to the other team. The other team skates around them for quality scoring opportunities.

Karlsson is an excellent rover. Best in the league. Doesn't mean he's infallible. And his shortcoming is clearly and obviously, defense.

Seriously, bud? You try to chrip me for not responding after an hour? Get a life. I got other poop to do than talk on here all day. Meanwhile, you've been called out literal hundreds of times in this blog and always sidestep your retardism and say another moronic thing instead.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 11 @ 7:55 PM ET
Great articles on just how complete a Dman Karlsson is. Your Leaf jealousy is on display this morning.

http://www.thehockeynews....lsson-is-better-than-ever

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...best-defenceman-on-earth/

- spatso


Oh, yeah. It's "jealousy" to say that a guy who isn't good defensively, isn't good defensively.

And the word you're looking for is envious, not jealous.

Even Homer knows the difference- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmx1jpqv3RA
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 11 @ 8:25 PM ET
You seem obsessed with this 28th pick thing .................are you suggesting the Sens should have thrown games at the end of the season, in order not to make the playoffs, and maybe win the lottery?

Or perhaps you think that players don't like winning in the playoffs, and should just throw a series, so the team can pick a higher first rounder?


Would you have not enjoyed watching the leafs, playing more than one round in the playoffs ........... and would you have been pissed off that they lowered the teams drafting position?


Lauding the 28th pick over Sens fans doesn't bother us, we saw our team play nineteen playoff games this spring ...............are you suggesting you would not have wanted to see the leafs play nineteen or more playoff games????

Senators played 19 playoff games, just this past spring ............. the leafs have only played 13 since the lock out .........twelve years ago.

- D0PPELGANGER


Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 11 @ 8:28 PM ET
Don't expect logic from any of these guys. A 50 year history of chronic losing, the Leafs have a nice year and they start talking dynasty. It so easy to laugh at them when they fail.
- spatso


You'll always have the Redblacks.


D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 11 @ 10:59 PM ET
Literally everything listed here is a symptom of the other team having the puck more often.
- Feeling Glucky?



And when the other team has the puck, you need good defense men ..... right? Or should the NHL change the position to Offense men?


Or, are you saying that Brent Burns is worse defensively than Karlsson?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 12 @ 6:45 AM ET
Oh, yeah. It's "jealousy" to say that a guy who isn't good defensively, isn't good defensively.

And the word you're looking for is envious, not jealous.

Even Homer knows the difference- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmx1jpqv3RA

- GreatGigInTheSky


No I prefer jealousy as accuratey describing most Leaf fans feelings. So much of the animus that Leaf fans feels are rooted in nearly two full generation of losses and incompetence. Leaf fans seem to resent everyone else's success. We can already see the bitterness growing towards the young Oilers...certainly this is jealousy incubated in 50 years of failing.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 12 @ 6:55 AM ET
No I prefer jealousy as accuratey describing most Leaf fans feelings. So much of the animus that Leaf fans feels are rooted in nearly two full generation of losses and incompetence. Leaf fans seem to resent everyone else's success. We can already see the bitterness growing towards the young Oilers...certainly this is jealousy incubated in 50 years of failing.
- spatso



bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 12 @ 7:06 AM ET
No I prefer jealousy as accuratey describing most Leaf fans feelings. So much of the animus that Leaf fans feels are rooted in nearly two full generation of losses and incompetence. Leaf fans seem to resent everyone else's success. We can already see the bitterness growing towards the young Oilers...certainly this is jealousy incubated in 50 years of failing.
- spatso



Just wondering,,,,,, what in the absolute (frank) have the Sens won in the past 50 years???

You ramble on like your team is the current Cup winner...
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 12 @ 7:10 AM ET
Just wondering,,,,,, what in the absolute (frank) have the Sens won in the past 50 years???

You ramble on like your team is the current Cup winner...

- bixll



He doesn't see the irony of a fan of a team that had never won a thing saying we're jealous.

He's a (frank)ing moron. He can't help but make poop up.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 12 @ 7:17 AM ET
He doesn't see the irony of a fan of a team that had never won a thing saying we're jealous.

He's a (frank)ing moron. He can't help but make poop up.

- burn



Your right, it is comical..
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 12 @ 7:19 AM ET
Just wondering,,,,,, what in the absolute (frank) have the Sens won in the past 50 years???

You ramble on like your team is the current Cup winner...

- bixll


Very helpful. Why do Leaf fans focus on wanting to highlight failings of others. Just a couple of years ago all the Leaf fans were constantly comparing themselves with the Oilers and their struggles. Now the young Oilers are like Kryptonite to most Leaf fans.

Most Canadian hockey really enjoyed the Sens run to the Stanley Cup semi-finals. Leaf fans were the exception. Their hostility over the Sens great success is more about their failing then the Sens progress.

Even in a rookie game where the kids on both sides put on a good show, Leaf fans are bitter because they cannot cope with losing. Repeat and recycle again.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 12 @ 7:22 AM ET
Your right, it is comical..
- bixll


Perhaps, then you should enjoy this rather than always being so bitter.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 12 @ 7:23 AM ET
Very helpful. Why do Leaf fans focus on wanting to highlight failings of others. Just a couple of years ago all the Leaf fans were constantly comparing themselves with the Oilers and their struggles. Now the young Oilers are like Kryptonite to most Leaf fans.

Most Canadian hockey really enjoyed the Sens run to the Stanley Cup semi-finals. Leaf fans were the exception. Their hostility over the Sens great success is more about their failing then the Sens progress.

Even in a rookie game where the kids on both sides put on a good show, Leaf fans are bitter because they cannot cope with losing. Repeat and recycle again.

- spatso

I tried bolding the parts that didn't make sense, and mock them, but I found it easier to bold the parts that did.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 12 @ 7:25 AM ET
You'll always have the Redblacks.
- Aetherial


Yes and you will continue with the mistake by the Lake.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 12 @ 7:25 AM ET
Very helpful. Why do Leaf fans focus on wanting to highlight failings of others. Just a couple of years ago all the Leaf fans were constantly comparing themselves with the Oilers and their struggles. Now the young Oilers are like Kryptonite to most Leaf fans.

Most Canadian hockey really enjoyed the Sens run to the Stanley Cup semi-finals. Leaf fans were the exception. Their hostility over the Sens great success is more about their failing then the Sens progress.

Even in a rookie game where the kids on both sides put on a good show, Leaf fans are bitter because they cannot cope with losing. Repeat and recycle again.

- spatso



You have issues dude..
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 12 @ 7:28 AM ET
Yes and you will continue with the mistake by the Lake.
- spatso



"focus on wanting to highlight failings of others." You Sir are a Hypocrite.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 12 @ 7:28 AM ET
Yes and you will continue with the mistake by the Lake.
- spatso



"focus on wanting to highlight failings of others." You Sir are a Hypocrite.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 12 @ 7:28 AM ET
You have issues dude..
- bixll


Now this is a step up. Well done!

Most of the Leaf posters on this thread are limited to name calling as their foundational reasoning.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 12 @ 7:33 AM ET
"focus on wanting to highlight failings of others." You Sir are a Hypocrite.
- bixll


Perhaps. I try not. I think I focus on the hubris of Leaf fans who have celebrated failure for 50 years in the belief that they have actually been at the centre of what is succeeding in the hockey world.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 12 @ 7:41 AM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vid...or-step-forward%7E1206043

This is good feature on Sens expectations for this coming season.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 12 @ 7:43 AM ET
Very helpful. Why do Leaf fans focus on wanting to highlight failings of others. Just a couple of years ago all the Leaf fans were constantly comparing themselves with the Oilers and their struggles. Now the young Oilers are like Kryptonite to most Leaf fans.

Most Canadian hockey really enjoyed the Sens run to the Stanley Cup semi-finals. Leaf fans were the exception. Their hostility over the Sens great success is more about their failing then the Sens progress.

Even in a rookie game where the kids on both sides put on a good show, Leaf fans are bitter because they cannot cope with losing. Repeat and recycle again.

- spatso



Spatso makes poopvup again. Rinse repeat.

Litterally none of this is true.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 12 @ 7:44 AM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/expectations-for-sens-higher-after-major-step-forward%7E1206043

This is good feature on Sens expectations for this coming season.

- spatso



This may hurt your chances of getting back to the same place.

"Senators captain isn't anywhere close to putting on a pair of skates and hitting the ice with his teammates when training camp opens later this week, Ian Mendes writes."
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 12 @ 7:52 AM ET
This may hurt your chances of getting back to the same place.

"Senators captain isn't anywhere close to putting on a pair of skates and hitting the ice with his teammates when training camp opens later this week, Ian Mendes writes."

- bixll


Yes. This is correct. I have seen one report suggesting that it might be mid-November before he returns. If so, dramatically changes outlook on season.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 12 @ 8:10 AM ET
Very helpful. Why do Leaf fans focus on wanting to highlight failings of others. Just a couple of years ago all the Leaf fans were constantly comparing themselves with the Oilers and their struggles. Now the young Oilers are like Kryptonite to most Leaf fans.

Most Canadian hockey really enjoyed the Sens run to the Stanley Cup semi-finals. Leaf fans were the exception. Their hostility over the Sens great success is more about their failing then the Sens progress.

Even in a rookie game where the kids on both sides put on a good show, Leaf fans are bitter because they cannot cope with losing. Repeat and recycle again.

- spatso


That's simply not true. Most hockey fans, Canadian and American, enjoyed none of the Sens run because they played exceptionally boring hockey.

You watch other series where it's fast paced nonstop action, and then the Sens come on and you're bored to death.

Hell. Even all Sens fans didn't like it, seeing as how they couldn't even sell out playoff games. That's why they're removing 1500 seats. To try and be less of a national embarrassment.
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