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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 3 @ 3:15 PM ET
If dopes says they didn't then they must not have..... It's pretty easy to look that sort of thing. Only a complete moron would post factually incorrect information like that, seeing how easy it is to check on.
- burn



To the best of my knowledge, the leaf have never advanced to the ECFs.

You do know that they've only been in the Eastern Conference since 1998/99?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 3 @ 3:19 PM ET
So it's not who's better now it's who was better last decade?

Sens had a better decade, yes..... The pervious decade the leafs were better.

This is about who's better, not who used to better.

- burn


So the most recent measuring stick, the standing at the end of last season, and last season's playoffs clearly show that the Senators were the better of the two Ontario based teams.

Onel, the Senators, finished the Season with home ice in the first round, and advanced to the ECFs, the leafs finished in a WC spot, and were eliminated in the first round.

Do you have another way to clearly showing which team is better than the other?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 3 @ 3:23 PM ET
To the best of my knowledge, the leaf have never advanced to the ECFs.

You do know that they've only been in the Eastern Conference since 1998/99?

- D0PPELGANGER



Your knowledge (as we all know) is non existent. Should check your facts moron.

Lol@ this imbicle "do you know" yeah thanks for the history lesson idiot. Maybe look up some of the years after 1998 to see if what you're saying it factually correct
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 3:24 PM ET
To the best of my knowledge, the leaf have never advanced to the ECFs.

You do know that they've only been in the Eastern Conference since 1998/99?

- D0PPELGANGER

they made it to the conference finals as early as their first year in the east you goof
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 3 @ 3:25 PM ET
So the most recent measuring stick, the standing at the end of last season, and last season's playoffs clearly show that the Senators were the better of the two Ontario based teams.

Onel, the Senators, finished the Season with home ice in the first round, and advanced to the ECFs, the leafs finished in a WC spot, and were eliminated in the first round.

Do you have another way to clearly showing which team is better than the other?

- D0PPELGANGER


One team just came out of (some would say still in) a rebuild mode.

The one with the best chance at future success? The one with money and cap space and young talent?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 3 @ 3:25 PM ET
You're late to this "debate" ........... leaf fans, in this thread, for years now have said the only thing that counts is winning the Cup ............ it does not matter how far a team, any team, goes in the playoffs............. if you don't win the Cup, you're a loser and only succeeded in getting a lower drafting position in the process.


So, using the leaf fan logic (in this thread) beating the Senators in the preliminary rounds, and then losing in the second round means absolutely nothing.

The Senators have been to the ECFs twice in the last ten years, and the SCFs once ......... the leaf have never been to the ECFs .......... but according to leaf fans, in this thread, it's meaningless........... because the only measuring stick is winning the Cup.



So you can prattle on about off ice crap, like licensing deals and whatever, it doesn't mean a thing......... it's pathetic if that's all you have to laud about...........

- D0PPELGANGER


Unlike Sens fans, I won't cherry pick time frames.

Facts.


A) The Sens franchise has zero cups, ever. In fact, No Ottawa team has ever won a major pro sports championship. the Stanley cup was nowhere near a major pro trophy the last time the Sens won... before any of us were born, and WAY WAY WAY longer in the past than the Leafs last victory.

b) The Sens franchise has never beaten the Leafs in the playoffs.

NEVER.

... and now their good luck, injury-aided window is closed.

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 3 @ 3:26 PM ET
they made it to the conference finals as early as their first year in the east you goof
- daeth



Did you know the leafs moved to the eastern conference in 1998?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 3 @ 3:27 PM ET
Must have gone to the trump school of public speaking. You'd think he would Google it to at least see if it's true. Then again DO0opps is like 75 years old and probably suffers memory loss.
- systemtool


He's almost old enough to enjoy women's golf!
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 3:27 PM ET
Did you know the leafs moved to the eastern conference in 1998?
- burn

no

i am only capable of googling up one fact at a time
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 3 @ 3:31 PM ET
no

i am only capable of googling up one fact at a time

- daeth



It's shocking how someone can be so (frank)ing stupid and still continue with the same line of posting and still show his face on this site. Unreal.


"Did you know the leafs moved to the east in 1998"

I can't stop laughing.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 3 @ 3:33 PM ET
It's shocking how someone can be so (frank)ing stupid and still continue with the same line of posting and still show his face on this site. Unreal.


"Did you know the leafs moved to the east in 1998"

I can't stop laughing.

- burn

did you know the leafs used to play their home games at maple leaf gardens?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 3 @ 3:34 PM ET
Unlike Sens fans, I won't cherry pick time frames.

Facts.


A) The Sens franchise has zero cups, ever. In fact, No Ottawa team has ever won a major pro sports championship. the Stanley cup was nowhere near a major pro trophy the last time the Sens won... before any of us were born, and WAY WAY WAY longer in the past than the Leafs last victory.

b) The Sens franchise has never beaten the Leafs in the playoffs.

NEVER.

... and now their good luck, injury-aided window is closed.


- Aetherial

But at the beginning of the 20th century the Sens beat the Sens for the Stanley cup! They're the greatest!!!!!!11!!?!1


Such a loser
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 3 @ 3:45 PM ET
Again .............you're late to this debate.......... for example, one leaf fan was mocking Sens fans that Bobby Ryan was NEVER going to re-sign with the Senators, and was 100% going to be a Flyer once he reached UFA status .......

and now you're doing the same thing with another player(s).



If all you have, to laud over the Senators, is hypothetical non-signings in the future , then you have nothing.

- D0PPELGANGER


What exactly does "late to this debate" mean ? Facts are facts, anyone who would claim the signing of one of the worst contracts in the NHL to be a positive is delusional at the very least. And as a bonus - have a look at who Bleacher report thinks is the worst contract in the NHL. Please don't pretend this helps a non-cap team's chances of signing a top talent free agent.


http://bleacherreport.com...hl-for-the-2016-17-season

nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Sep 3 @ 4:06 PM ET
To the best of my knowledge, the leaf have never advanced to the ECFs.

You do know that they've only been in the Eastern Conference since 1998/99?

- D0PPELGANGER

1992-93 Lost in round 3
1993-94 Lost in round 3
1998-99 Lost in round 3
2001-02 Lost in round 3
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 3 @ 4:09 PM ET
If you have to go back well over 50 years to feel good about a team in the present ...... then that's what you have to do.

I suspect you've never seen the Leafs play in the SCFs in your lifetime, yet.......... but most senator fans have.

- D0PPELGANGER



i dont think we should be going back. You decided to and i played along. when the facts didnt favour the sens, going into the past became an issue for you.

There is no sens fan alive thats ever seen them win a cup in the nhl. but there are Leaf fans that have. second most cups helps.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 3 @ 4:11 PM ET
1992-93 Lost in round 3
1993-94 Lost in round 3
1998-99 Lost in round 3
2001-02 Lost in round 3

- nbboy



dont bother. he got ass plowed with facts and now hes avoiding his errors. one of many.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 3 @ 4:11 PM ET
He's almost old enough to enjoy women's golf!
- Aetherial



hes old enough to forget what "laud" means.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 3 @ 4:16 PM ET
1992-93 Lost in round 3
1993-94 Lost in round 3
1998-99 Lost in round 3
2001-02 Lost in round 3

- nbboy

First 2 the Leafs were in the western conference.
Moved to the eastern in 98.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 3 @ 4:17 PM ET

- burn



This is why he resorts to "since the lock out"


Because this happened before the lock out.

Senators vs Maple Leafs 2004 NHL Playoffs Game 7: http://youtu.be/yfuBxEfFWvM
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 3 @ 4:17 PM ET
First 2 the Leafs were in the western conference.
Moved to the eastern in 98.

- bobbyisno1



Because if it's not in the east the west doesn't count for sens fans.

Omg sens suck. Never seen a WCF. Leafs have. That settles that.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 3 @ 4:22 PM ET
Because if it's not in the east the west doesn't count for sens fans.

Omg sens suck. Never seen a WCF. Leafs have. That settles that.

- systemtool




bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 3 @ 4:24 PM ET
Because if it's not in the east the west doesn't count for sens fans.

Omg sens suck. Never seen a WCF. Leafs have. That settles that.

- systemtool

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 3 @ 4:27 PM ET
did you know the leafs used to play their home games at maple leaf gardens?
- daeth





It boggles my mind.... Did he know they switched in 1998? Did he have to google it?


seems like he posted "did you know" bullpoop to try to be all snobbish to try to prove a point... like he was thinking we were referring to the leafs won a cup so they must have been to the finals before talk about huge backfire.

What a moron.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 3 @ 4:30 PM ET


It boggles my mind.... Did he know they switched in 1998? Did he have to google it?


seems like he posted "did you know" bullpoop to try to be all snobbish to try to prove a point... like he was thinking we were referring to the leafs won a cup so they must have been to the finals before talk about huge backfire.

What a moron.

- burn

Well I had no clue and had to Google it.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Sep 3 @ 4:31 PM ET
Well I had no clue and had to Google it.
- bobbyisno1



When you googled it did you see when the leafs made the eastern finals?
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