Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: NHL Talk :: WHO is in a better situation: LEAFS or SENS?
Author Message
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 6 @ 11:01 AM ET
you're in over your head.

probably best just to move along.

- Tumbleweed



Yeah, with bullpoop.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 6 @ 11:01 AM ET
you're in over your head.

probably best just to move along.

- Tumbleweed



Yeah, with bullpoop.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 6 @ 11:02 AM ET
Pounding? He has t made a relevant coherent post yet.


- burn

He wrote(read: copy and pasted) a lot, used a lot of caps and bolding.

I don't think Spasto is capable of understanding the difference between that, and making a valid point.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 6 @ 11:03 AM ET
you're in over your head.

probably best just to move along.

- Tumbleweed



(frank)er doesn't know the rules surrounding cap recapture penalty. Hid for a few days, now he's back to have another pop at it.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 6 @ 11:03 AM ET
Yeah, with bullpoop.
- golfingsince

Ha! Such a stupid term, big-3.

Makes it sound like they're these really talented players(the best 3 on the team).

So dumb!
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 6 @ 11:06 AM ET
Leafs Cap situation
Good info

https://www.pensionplanpu...-space-are-a-cap-team-now

- senstroll


lupul will be dumped imo

edit: could see jvr moved for a dman. i'll say tomorrow.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 6 @ 11:09 AM ET
Yeah, with bullpoop.
- golfingsince


that's what happens when you spend too much time in the nucks thread
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 6 @ 11:16 AM ET


(frank)er doesn't know the rules surrounding cap recapture penalty. Hid for a few days, now he's back to have another pop at it.

- walshyleafsfan


Nobody hid.

Just keep telling yourself Marleau's contract is fantastic then deny you ever said it when the time comes. That's your style.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 6 @ 11:17 AM ET
lupul will be dumped imo

edit: could see jvr moved for a dman. i'll say tomorrow.

- Tumbleweed



The last of the old big 3.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 6 @ 11:22 AM ET
Nobody hid.

Just keep telling yourself Marleau's contract is fantastic then deny you ever said it when the time comes. That's your style.

- golfingsince

do you have any quotes to back this up, or are you just trolling?

Nobody's saying it's a fantastic contract. Pretty much every Leafs fan would rather it have been a 2 year deal. But the way it's built, it's pretty clear they've got a plan to get rid of him in year 3, if he declines, or if they need the cap space.

Leafs have a massive amount of capspace available once the season starts, and a lot coming off the books in the next few years. Short-term, high price contracts aren't an issue. They have a few years before they need to re-sign the big 3(what a dumb term!), so they may as well take a stab at it now with the high-priced UFAs.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 6 @ 11:23 AM ET
The last of the old big 3.
- golfingsince


actually, you should stay.

you'll fit in with dopps and spats0

but maybe just a tier below them.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 6 @ 11:24 AM ET
Nobody hid.

Just keep telling yourself Marleau's contract is fantastic then deny you ever said it when the time comes. That's your style.

- golfingsince

I've never once said Marleau's contract is fantastic. It doesn't harm the Leafs, that's a fact.

I personally wanted to spend the money elsewhere.

You make poop up man. I've never once commented on the contract rather than it doesn't affect the Leafs going forward with their plan. Guy's like Booner and the rest of the clown squad seem more concerned with it than Leafs fans.

No jog on and go post this in your thread.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 6 @ 11:25 AM ET
I've never once said Marleau's contract is fantastic. It doesn't harm the Leafs, that's a fact.

I personally wanted to spend the money elsewhere.

You make poop up man. I've never once commented on the contract rather than it doesn't affect the Leafs going forward with their plan. Guy's like Booner and the rest of the clown squad seem more concerned with it than Leafs fans.

No jog on and go post this in your thread.

- walshyleafsfan


he luvs his fake news.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 6 @ 11:53 AM ET




Hummmmm, lets see ....... Senators have more than $11 Million in Cap space available, as of today.

And the leafs are OVER the Cap by more than $3.9 Million.


who is the one that is not addressing their "teams problem with the cap"?


I'm not the best mathematician here, but please explain why you think the Senators more than $11M in cap space is " far more significant at the moment " than the leafs being over the Cap by more than $3.9M?????

Is this what is referred to as leafanomics?


- D0PPELGANGER


I am sorry you don't understand the concept of cap as it pertains to the Senators and you are only able to focus on an irrelevant sliver of the whole picture.

Let me make it more simple, although I fear this is futile.


Sens
-----
Internal Cap, 22+ million in bad salary that extends past when Karlsson needs to be signed.


Leafs
------
One bad salary you are questioning and have yet to actually explain WHY it is a problem.

Over the cap now which can and will be corrected as soon as they feel like it, with a simple phone call and NO COST, and NO LOST PLAYERS, before they need to be at the cap, and then LTIR kicks in and they are well below.

Actual Cap team with plenty of room to sign and retain their core the same way other teams without cheap owners and poor fan support operate.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 6 @ 11:54 AM ET
the leafs are now, today, more than $3.9 Million over the cap limit.

So is that a problem, or is this more leafonomics?

- D0PPELGANGER


Do you actually understand anything about the CBA and salary caps?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 6 @ 11:55 AM ET
Dopps your ruthless this morning. Pounding them pretty hard.

Imagine if they sign Markov. Probably does not happen. But.

Cannot believe our summer of Leafs and old geezers could get any better.

- spatso


He's pounding something pretty hard. It ain't us.

His statements get more stupid with each new post.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 6 @ 11:56 AM ET
I do want to stipulate that Bobby Ryan is a bad contract. I did not like it at the time. I do not like it now. They are going to need to pay the price and move it at some point.

Phaneuf, on the other hand, had an enormous playoff. Only Anderson and Karlsson played better.

The Leafs are now bringing in 3 guys each of them 6 years older than Phaneuf to provide the same kind of stability and leadership.

With the Sens cap situation and their wealth of young D needing playing time, a Dman had to go. It turned out to be Methot (same age as Phaneuf).

Leafs still need a reliable top 4 Dman.

The paradox is delicious.

- spatso


Do you know the meaning of the word paradox?

How come you couldn't give away Phaneuf for half-price. How come you have never explained that. How come you have never even explained why they tried to?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 6 @ 11:57 AM ET
lupul will be dumped imo

edit: could see jvr moved for a dman. i'll say tomorrow.

- Tumbleweed


Dopps needs to read over that in detail, being over the cap right now for the Leafs means nothing.



Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 6 @ 11:58 AM ET
The last of the old big 3.
- golfingsince


I am happy that you can laugh now because it will be a LONG time before you get any happiness from your team
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 6 @ 12:01 PM ET
do you have any quotes to back this up, or are you just trolling?

Nobody's saying it's a fantastic contract. Pretty much every Leafs fan would rather it have been a 2 year deal. But the way it's built, it's pretty clear they've got a plan to get rid of him in year 3, if he declines, or if they need the cap space.

Leafs have a massive amount of capspace available once the season starts, and a lot coming off the books in the next few years. Short-term, high price contracts aren't an issue. They have a few years before they need to re-sign the big 3(what a dumb term!), so they may as well take a stab at it now with the high-priced UFAs.

- Feeling Glucky?


Yeah, got sick of typing out Matthews Marner Nylander when everyone knows that they are the guys people worry about being able to re-sign and they are expected to be the big-3 from a cap perspective... which is what this conversation is all about.

Only a stupid term for trolls who can't stand the fact that the leafs have 3 second year players better than everyone on their team or in their system.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 6 @ 12:03 PM ET
Dopps needs to read over that in detail, being over the cap right now for the Leafs means nothing.
- senstroll


I suspect he knows...

But he needs to be pedantic about the meaningless minutiae because somewhere inside him is a little voice that knows he is being made to look stupid.

When he tries to stray away from the meaningless fluff, he comes up with poop from 7 or 8 years ago... and promptly gets smacked down again with examples of even more stupid poop from the Sens in the past.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 6 @ 12:07 PM ET
Yeah, got sick of typing out Matthews Marner Nylander when everyone knows that they are the guys people worry about being able to re-sign and they are expected to be the big-3 from a cap perspective... which is what this conversation is all about.

Only a stupid term for trolls who can't stand the fact that the leafs have 3 second year players better than everyone on their team or in their system.

- Aetherial

To be fair, I'll never get sick of typing out the names of the elite rookies the Leafs had this last season.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:07 PM ET
Do you know the meaning of the word paradox?

How come you couldn't give away Phaneuf for half-price. How come you have never explained that. How come you have never even explained why they tried to?

- Aetherial


My mother came from Belle Island, Newfoundland. Obviously I know a paradox when I see them. Two places to moor my boat.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 6 @ 12:13 PM ET
My mother came from Belle Island, Newfoundland. Obviously I know a paradox when I see them. Two places to moor my boat.
- spatso


spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
We saw that on the Hawk threads last year when they started heading North of the cap. How about Washington this summer? Leafs have a history of BS that blows up in their face. No evidence that this round is any different.
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188, 189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 199, 200, 201, 202, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 210, 211, 212, 213, 214, 215, 216, 217, 218, 219, 220, 221, 222, 223, 224, 225, 226, 227, 228, 229, 230, 231, 232, 233, 234, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 250, 251, 252, 253, 254, 255, 256, 257, 258, 259, 260, 261, 262, 263, 264, 265, 266, 267, 268, 269, 270, 271, 272, 273, 274, 275, 276, 277, 278, 279, 280, 281, 282, 283, 284, 285, 286, 287, 288, 289, 290, 291, 292, 293, 294, 295, 296, 297, 298, 299, 300, 301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312, 313, 314, 315, 316, 317, 318, 319, 320, 321, 322, 323, 324, 325, 326, 327, 328, 329, 330, 331, 332, 333, 334, 335, 336, 337, 338, 339, 340, 341, 342, 343, 344, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 350, 351, 352, 353, 354, 355, 356, 357, 358, 359, 360, 361, 362, 363, 364, 365, 366, 367, 368, 369, 370, 371, 372, 373, 374, 375, 376, 377, 378, 379, 380, 381, 382, 383, 384, 385, 386, 387, 388, 389, 390, 391, 392, 393, 394, 395, 396, 397, 398, 399, 400, 401, 402, 403, 404, 405, 406, 407, 408, 409, 410, 411, 412, 413, 414, 415, 416, 417, 418, 419, 420, 421, 422, 423, 424, 425, 426, 427, 428, 429, 430, 431, 432, 433, 434, 435, 436, 437, 438, 439, 440, 441, 442, 443, 444, 445, 446, 447, 448, 449, 450, 451, 452, 453, 454, 455, 456, 457, 458, 459, 460, 461, 462, 463, 464, 465, 466, 467, 468, 469, 470, 471, 472, 473, 474, 475, 476, 477, 478, 479, 480, 481, 482, 483, 484, 485, 486, 487, 488, 489, 490, 491, 492, 493, 494, 495, 496, 497, 498, 499, 500, 501, 502, 503, 504, 505, 506, 507, 508, 509, 510, 511, 512, 513, 514, 515, 516, 517, 518, 519, 520, 521, 522, 523, 524, 525, 526, 527, 528, 529, 530, 531, 532, 533, 534, 535, 536, 537, 538, 539, 540, 541, 542, 543, 544, 545, 546, 547, 548, 549, 550, 551, 552, 553, 554, 555, 556, 557, 558, 559, 560, 561, 562, 563, 564, 565, 566, 567, 568, 569, 570, 571, 572, 573, 574, 575, 576, 577, 578, 579, 580, 581, 582, 583, 584, 585, 586, 587, 588, 589, 590, 591, 592, 593, 594, 595, 596, 597, 598, 599, 600, 601, 602, 603, 604, 605, 606, 607, 608, 609, 610, 611, 612, 613, 614, 615, 616, 617, 618, 619, 620, 621, 622, 623, 624, 625, 626, 627, 628, 629, 630, 631, 632, 633, 634, 635, 636, 637, 638, 639, 640, 641, 642, 643, 644, 645, 646, 647, 648, 649, 650, 651, 652, 653, 654, 655, 656, 657, 658, 659, 660, 661, 662, 663, 664, 665, 666, 667, 668, 669, 670, 671, 672, 673, 674, 675, 676, 677, 678, 679, 680, 681, 682, 683, 684, 685, 686, 687, 688, 689, 690, 691, 692, 693, 694, 695, 696, 697, 698, 699, 700, 701, 702, 703, 704, 705, 706, 707, 708, 709, 710, 711, 712, 713, 714, 715, 716, 717, 718, 719, 720, 721, 722, 723, 724, 725, 726, 727, 728, 729, 730, 731, 732, 733, 734, 735, 736, 737, 738, 739, 740, 741, 742, 743, 744, 745, 746, 747, 748, 749, 750, 751, 752, 753, 754, 755, 756, 757, 758, 759, 760, 761, 762, 763, 764, 765, 766, 767, 768, 769, 770, 771, 772, 773, 774, 775, 776, 777, 778, 779, 780, 781, 782, 783, 784, 785, 786, 787, 788, 789, 790, 791, 792, 793, 794, 795, 796, 797, 798, 799, 800, 801, 802, 803, 804, 805, 806, 807, 808, 809, 810, 811, 812, 813, 814, 815, 816, 817, 818, 819, 820, 821, 822, 823, 824, 825, 826, 827, 828, 829, 830, 831, 832, 833, 834, 835, 836, 837, 838, 839, 840, 841, 842, 843, 844, 845, 846, 847, 848, 849, 850, 851, 852, 853, 854, 855, 856, 857, 858, 859, 860, 861, 862, 863, 864, 865, 866, 867, 868, 869, 870, 871, 872, 873, 874, 875, 876, 877, 878, 879, 880, 881, 882, 883, 884, 885, 886, 887, 888, 889, 890, 891, 892, 893, 894, 895, 896, 897, 898, 899, 900, 901, 902, 903, 904, 905, 906, 907, 908, 909, 910, 911, 912, 913, 914, 915, 916, 917, 918, 919, 920, 921, 922, 923, 924, 925, 926, 927, 928, 929, 930, 931, 932, 933, 934, 935, 936, 937, 938, 939, 940, 941, 942, 943, 944, 945, 946, 947, 948, 949, 950, 951, 952, 953, 954, 955, 956, 957, 958, 959, 960, 961, 962, 963, 964, 965, 966, 967, 968, 969, 970, 971, 972, 973, 974, 975, 976, 977, 978, 979, 980, 981, 982, 983, 984, 985, 986, 987, 988, 989, 990, 991, 992, 993, 994, 995, 996, 997, 998, 999, 1000, 1001, 1002, 1003, 1004, 1005, 1006, 1007, 1008, 1009, 1010, 1011, 1012, 1013, 1014, 1015, 1016, 1017, 1018, 1019, 1020, 1021, 1022, 1023, 1024, 1025, 1026, 1027, 1028, 1029, 1030, 1031, 1032, 1033, 1034, 1035, 1036, 1037, 1038, 1039, 1040, 1041, 1042, 1043, 1044, 1045, 1046, 1047, 1048, 1049, 1050, 1051, 1052, 1053, 1054, 1055, 1056, 1057, 1058, 1059, 1060, 1061, 1062, 1063, 1064, 1065, 1066, 1067, 1068, 1069, 1070, 1071, 1072, 1073, 1074, 1075, 1076, 1077, 1078, 1079, 1080, 1081, 1082, 1083, 1084, 1085, 1086, 1087, 1088, 1089, 1090, 1091, 1092, 1093, 1094, 1095, 1096, 1097, 1098, 1099, 1100, 1101, 1102, 1103, 1104, 1105, 1106, 1107, 1108, 1109, 1110, 1111, 1112, 1113, 1114, 1115, 1116, 1117, 1118, 1119, 1120, 1121, 1122, 1123, 1124, 1125, 1126, 1127, 1128, 1129, 1130, 1131, 1132, 1133, 1134, 1135, 1136, 1137, 1138, 1139, 1140, 1141, 1142, 1143, 1144, 1145, 1146, 1147, 1148, 1149, 1150, 1151, 1152, 1153, 1154, 1155, 1156, 1157, 1158, 1159, 1160, 1161, 1162, 1163, 1164, 1165, 1166, 1167, 1168, 1169, 1170, 1171, 1172, 1173, 1174, 1175, 1176, 1177, 1178, 1179, 1180, 1181, 1182, 1183, 1184, 1185, 1186, 1187, 1188, 1189, 1190, 1191, 1192, 1193, 1194, 1195, 1196, 1197, 1198, 1199, 1200, 1201, 1202, 1203, 1204, 1205, 1206, 1207, 1208, 1209, 1210, 1211, 1212, 1213, 1214, 1215, 1216, 1217, 1218, 1219, 1220, 1221, 1222, 1223, 1224  Next