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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:38 PM ET




BTW, no one has given an answer ................. who is going to back up in toronto next season?

- D0PPELGANGER


A goalie. there is your answer.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: two steaks and a couple bottles of red wine - we'll get drunk and I'll taze your balls. -Wedgie
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:38 PM ET




BTW, no one has given an answer ................. who is going to back up in toronto next season?

- D0PPELGANGER


No idea, good thing there is like 3+ months to figure that out.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:38 PM ET

- D0PPELGANGER



So no.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:41 PM ET
No idea, good thing there is like 3+ months to figure that out.
- Aetherial



"Hey Laffs fans, why can't you tell the future like us? haha loosers"

"I told those loaf fans spatso bro. high five!"
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:41 PM ET
will the Sens as a team next season have more rookie games played than Connor Brown gp alone? They didn't this season.
- systemtool


I think the Sens start the season with 3 rookies in the line up. Expect for Chabot, Harpur and White to carve out nice roles this coming season.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:42 PM ET
I think the Sens start the season with 3 rookies in the line up. Expect for Chabot, Harpur and White to carve out nice roles this coming season.
- spatso



yea but what about Laine? I'm not saying those 3 aren't the right picks but Laines gonna win the Calder.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:44 PM ET
You are having problems following the conversation because you don't understand basic concepts like over-achieving, under-achieving, luck, window of opportunity, bad contracts, and probably a few more.

I imagine that winning nothing, and in particular having a Leafs team destroy your dreams 4 times in a row must have had more of an effect than we thought.

Don't worry, Crusty the clown might get in the HOF one day. Maybe they will put him beside the Trojan

- Aetherial


Duh! I was a Leaf fan.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 28 @ 10:56 PM ET
Duh! I was a Leaf fan.
- spatso


But you're stilled unhinged!
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Jun 28 @ 11:01 PM ET
Anderson @ $3.1Million, next season
Condom @ $1.7 Million, next season

Equals $4.8 Million for both Starter and Back up goaltenders...... for next season.

The leafs are paying, just their starter $5.0 Million, for next season.


add in the cost for whoever the leafs can get for a back up............... and it ends up with Ottawa having better goaltending and paying much less than the leafs.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 28 @ 11:05 PM ET
Anderson @ $3.1Million, next season
Condom @ $1.7 Million, next season

Equals $4.8 Million for both Starter and Back up goaltenders...... for next season.

The leafs are paying, just their starter $5.0 Million, for next season.


add in the cost for whoever the leafs can get for a back up............... and it ends up with Ottawa having better goaltending and paying much less than the leafs.

- D0PPELGANGER


You forgot the $1.5m for hammond

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 28 @ 11:19 PM ET

- D0PPELGANGER


Could have just posted this.

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 12:04 AM ET
Anderson @ $3.1Million, next season
Condom @ $1.7 Million, next season

Equals $4.8 Million for both Starter and Back up goaltenders...... for next season.

The leafs are paying, just their starter $5.0 Million, for next season.


add in the cost for whoever the leafs can get for a back up............... and it ends up with Ottawa having better goaltending and paying much less than the leafs.

- D0PPELGANGER



Andersen cap hit is 4.2mil and condon just signed for 2.4mil a year?

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 5:29 AM ET
"Chabot was showered with personal accolades. He became the first defenceman to be named the WJC tournament MVP, scoring four goals and six assists in seven games. He was also named the CHL Defenceman of the Year, despite playing in just 34 games."
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 5:45 AM ET
Andersen cap hit is 4.2mil and condon just signed for 2.4mil a year?


- burn

Ottawa is a budget team, you must remember. Actual cap hit doesn't matter to them.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 5:48 AM ET
"Chabot was showered with personal accolades. He became the first defenceman to be named the WJC tournament MVP, scoring four goals and six assists in seven games. He was also named the CHL Defenceman of the Year, despite playing in just 34 games."
- spatso

Already Ottawa fans are noticing stories floated that he just doesn't seem ready to put the extra effort in to be an NHLer. Nobody is panicking yet, but if he doesn't start trying, he may be more Aki Berg than Cody Ceci.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:44 AM ET
Already Ottawa fans are noticing stories floated that he just doesn't seem ready to put the extra effort in to be an NHLer. Nobody is panicking yet, but if he doesn't start trying, he may be more Aki Berg than Cody Ceci.
- Feeling Glucky?


I think your reading that upside down. He was challenged last summer because he did not dominate the rookie camp.

He went on to be named best Dman, an all star and MVP of the WJC.

He was named top Dman in the Q and top Dman in the CHL.

This is a very special player.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 29 @ 7:14 AM ET
Andersen cap hit is 4.2mil and condon just signed for 2.4mil a year?


- burn



D0Oopps doesn't always math but when does......
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 29 @ 7:14 AM ET
Already Ottawa fans are noticing stories floated that he just doesn't seem ready to put the extra effort in to be an NHLer. Nobody is panicking yet, but if he doesn't start trying, he may be more Aki Berg than Cody Ceci.
- Feeling Glucky?




He doesn't even get it.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 7:35 AM ET
I think your reading that upside down. He was challenged last summer because he did not dominate the rookie camp.

He went on to be named best Dman, an all star and MVP of the WJC.

He was named top Dman in the Q and top Dman in the CHL.

This is a very special player.

- spatso

Typical Senator Summer Speak.

No value, barely a sentence to be seen.

Give me an adjective!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 29 @ 7:41 AM ET


D0Oopps doesn't always math but when does......

- systemtool



So dumb, ignores what they paid previously.

According to capfreindly, sens paid more for their goalies (based on cap hit and amount of time spent on the roster)
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 29 @ 8:04 AM ET
Anderson @ $3.1Million, next season
Condom @ $1.7 Million, next season

Equals $4.8 Million for both Starter and Back up goaltenders...... for next season.

The leafs are paying, just their starter $5.0 Million, for next season.


add in the cost for whoever the leafs can get for a back up............... and it ends up with Ottawa having better goaltending and paying much less than the leafs.

- D0PPELGANGER



Sens are paying 3 goalies 6.3 mil, and an 8 mil cap hit

That was a good try though



prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 29 @ 8:23 AM ET
Andersen cap hit is 4.2mil and condon just signed for 2.4mil a year?


- burn


Anderson is 4.2. condon 2.4. andersen 5.

although thinking that they have better goaltending is silly. Anderson was better last year, but he's always been an on and off goalie. on top of that, he's never in his career played as many games as andersen did last year.

but Anderson would be very unlikely to repeat his year even if he were young. at his age, he's a ticking time bomb.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 29 @ 8:25 AM ET
Ottawa is a budget team, you must remember. Actual cap hit doesn't matter to them.
- Feeling Glucky?



I've tried to tell these halfwits for years. it still matters. it means they're stuck with the player.

you don't need to look much further than phanoof to see that the cap hit absolutely matters. their hands are tied with him.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jun 29 @ 8:46 AM ET
I've tried to tell these halfwits for years. it still matters. it means they're stuck with the player.

you don't need to look much further than phanoof to see that the cap hit absolutely matters. their hands are tied with him.

- prock

It matters if they're trying to win the cup.

That's never been the goal in Ottawa, and the fans know it, which is why they'd rather save up for CFL preseason games than buy tickets to watch a team go no where.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 29 @ 9:08 AM ET
It matters if they're trying to win the cup.

That's never been the goal in Ottawa, and the fans know it, which is why they'd rather save up for CFL preseason games than buy tickets to watch a team go no where.

- Feeling Glucky?


I guess you believe what you want to believe. Ottawa was close to the cap at the end of the regular season.

Ottawa decided to invest in a solid back up when they signed Condon.

Funny how you disparaged the signings that Dorion made coming up to deadline last year. But you all disappeared when the Sens went deeper and deeper into playoffs.

No veteran was more important to the Sens playoff run than Phaneuf.
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