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D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 13 @ 9:22 AM ET
Saying your team is missing Ryan and MacArthur is like Leafs fans saying we're missing Lupul, Horton, and Robidas. Sure, it's true, but it's not really a big loss. Hell it might be to the team's benefit.
- Feeling Glucky?



Once MacArthur suffered another concussion in training camp, I for one wrote him off for the season....... and if he managed to make it back, I figured he would not play too long until another bad hit put him out ............. he just seems to have a bad thing going and doubt he'll ever get back to his previous level of play.

Ryan was playing very well until his latest injury, the coaching staff made a point of it, as he does a lot of things on the ice that goes unnoticed........ and yes you can criticize his lack of production and his paycheque all you want, but that's not going to change the fact that the Senators are one of the favourites to emerge from the Atlantic division.

You do make a good point, in that their absences from the line up has allowed for other players to step up into the "top six" forwards, and play bigger roles and gain some confidence and experience ...... so there is always some good in these types of situations. Same thing has been happening, on a smaller scale, on the blueline, with Claesson getting into the line up on a regular basis over this last stretch of games.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 13 @ 9:24 AM ET
also dont forget of the 6 wins , 4 are currently Lottery teams

wins against
30th
30th
29th
26th

it starts to get harder now

- senstroll



Yeah, I think I pretty much said that ............. did you just stop reading after the first paragraph?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:41 AM ET
Yeah, I think I pretty much said that ............. did you just stop reading after the first paragraph?
- D0PPELGANGER



In the Rasmussen Daily Tracking Poll, Donald Trump dropped to his lowest level yet at -11.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 13 @ 9:46 AM ET
Yeah, I think I pretty much said that ............. did you just stop reading after the first paragraph?
- D0PPELGANGER


I stopped at the 1st sentence
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:53 AM ET
Once MacArthur suffered another concussion in training camp, I for one wrote him off for the season....... and if he managed to make it back, I figured he would not play too long until another bad hit put him out ............. he just seems to have a bad thing going and doubt he'll ever get back to his previous level of play.

Ryan was playing very well until his latest injury, the coaching staff made a point of it, as he does a lot of things on the ice that goes unnoticed........ and yes you can criticize his lack of production and his paycheque all you want, but that's not going to change the fact that the Senators are one of the favourites to emerge from the Atlantic division.

You do make a good point, in that their absences from the line up has allowed for other players to step up into the "top six" forwards, and play bigger roles and gain some confidence and experience ...... so there is always some good in these types of situations. Same thing has been happening, on a smaller scale, on the blueline, with Claesson getting into the line up on a regular basis over this last stretch of games.

- D0PPELGANGER



MacArthur and Ryan have regressed to third line players.

there are no favourites from the Atlantic division. there isn't a team in the division among the best in the east.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 13 @ 10:05 AM ET
MacArthur and Ryan have regressed to third line players.

there are no favourites from the Atlantic division. there isn't a team in the division among the best in the east.

- prock


BUT, if you had to pick the winner of the Atlantic division, who would you pick?

Is it possible for a team from the Metro division, to win the Atlantic division?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Mar 13 @ 10:17 AM ET
http://www.hockey-referen...com/friv/playoff_prob.cgi

this site gives the leafs (20.2%) an edge, over the Bruins (15.8%), for a WC .......... but the Islanders (48.4%) have the best odds .......... so that is the team the leaf fans should be rooting against.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 13 @ 10:40 AM ET
http://www.hockey-reference.com/friv/playoff_prob.cgi

this site gives the leafs (20.2%) an edge, over the Bruins (15.8%), for a WC .......... but the Islanders (48.4%) have the best odds .......... so that is the team the leaf fans should be rooting against.

- D0PPELGANGER

I like how you ignore the playoff probability column
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 13 @ 10:41 AM ET
Yeah, I think I pretty much said that ............. did you just stop reading after the first paragraph?
- D0PPELGANGER

just gave it a quick read. Don't see you mentioning how the Sens had an easy stretch.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 13 @ 10:42 AM ET
Once MacArthur suffered another concussion in training camp, I for one wrote him off for the season....... and if he managed to make it back, I figured he would not play too long until another bad hit put him out ............. he just seems to have a bad thing going and doubt he'll ever get back to his previous level of play.

Ryan was playing very well until his latest injury, the coaching staff made a point of it, as he does a lot of things on the ice that goes unnoticed........ and yes you can criticize his lack of production and his paycheque all you want, but that's not going to change the fact that the Senators are one of the favourites to emerge from the Atlantic division.

You do make a good point, in that their absences from the line up has allowed for other players to step up into the "top six" forwards, and play bigger roles and gain some confidence and experience ...... so there is always some good in these types of situations. Same thing has been happening, on a smaller scale, on the blueline, with Claesson getting into the line up on a regular basis over this last stretch of games.

- D0PPELGANGER


I also like how you put top-6 in quotes. Like you know that a Sens' top-6 player doesn't really count as one on just about any other team in the league.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 13 @ 10:55 AM ET
Yeah, I think I pretty much said that ............. did you just stop reading after the first paragraph?
- D0PPELGANGER


Ill be honest you post so much crap and lots of long posts with lots of crap in it.. i did

your posts are full of lots of nonsense and gifs and links and quotes from weird people..I skip a lot of the posts
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 13 @ 10:59 AM ET
http://www.hockey-reference.com/friv/playoff_prob.cgi

this site gives the leafs (20.2%) an edge, over the Bruins (15.8%), for a WC .......... but the Islanders (48.4%) have the best odds .......... so that is the team the leaf fans should be rooting against.

- D0PPELGANGER


Good upgrade on the avatar
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 13 @ 11:22 AM ET
BUT, if you had to pick the winner of the Atlantic division, who would you pick?

Is it possible for a team from the Metro division, to win the Atlantic division?

- D0PPELGANGER


I wouldn't bother thinking about it because I don't care. the winner of the Atlantic division is rather meaningless.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 13 @ 11:45 AM ET
pretty funny to watch the leafs fans scramble around in here the last few pages
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 13 @ 11:47 AM ET
pretty funny to watch the leafs fans scramble around in here the last few pages
- Crimsoninja


how are the flyers doing?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 13 @ 12:18 PM ET
pretty funny to watch the leafs fans scramble around in here the last few pages
- Crimsoninja


What the Leafs have accomplished this season is spectacular. No scrambling necessary. They're set up to be a powerhouse as soon as next year. You can see how much it's starting to bother Sens fans.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 13 @ 12:29 PM ET
MacArthur and Ryan have regressed to third line players.

there are no favourites from the Atlantic division. there isn't a team in the division among the best in the east.

- prock


You don't have any idea how the Sens have performed against stronger teams. The Sens have played every team in the Metropolitan Division really strong, in fact they have the best record in the league against Metropololitan teams.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 13 @ 12:33 PM ET
What the Leafs have accomplished this season is spectacular. No scrambling necessary. They're set up to be a powerhouse as soon as next year. You can see how much it's starting to bother Sens fans.
- prock


We have listened to this kind of crap from Leaf fans for so long....pardon me not taking it too seriously!
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 13 @ 12:36 PM ET
You don't have any idea how the Sens have performed against stronger teams. The Sens have played every team in the Metropolitan Division really strong, in fact they have the best record in the league against Metropololitan teams.
- spatso



I don't care. They stand no chance in a 7 game series against Pittsburgh, Washington, or New York. Zero. I don't give them much of a chance against Columbus either, but I don't think Columbus is much better than the Sens. They aren't "for real" either. (any team getting Cam Atkinson and Nick Foligno scoring almost 30 goals a piece has caught some lightning in a bottle).
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 13 @ 12:40 PM ET
We have listened to this kind of crap from Leaf fans for so long....pardon me not taking it too seriously!
- spatso



Great! The rest of the league is taking the best rookie class the NHL has ever seen seriously, we don't care if you do or don't.

We don't take the Sens seriously. No one does. So we're not fussed either way.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 13 @ 12:44 PM ET
I don't care. They stand no chance in a 7 game series against Pittsburgh, Washington, or New York. Zero. I don't give them much of a chance against Columbus either, but I don't think Columbus is much better than the Sens. They aren't "for real" either. (any team getting Cam Atkinson and Nick Foligno scoring almost 30 goals a piece has caught some lightning in a bottle).
- prock



Seems to be the pattern for Leaf fans. Let's just ignore the hard data of wins and losses.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 13 @ 12:46 PM ET
Seems to be the pattern for Leaf fans. Let's just ignore the hard data of wins and losses.
- spatso


You know you're really setting yourself up right now, right?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 13 @ 1:00 PM ET
You know you're really setting yourself up right now, right?
- prock



Seriously, , and I really do mean to apply a serious perspective.

I believe in this Sens team. Over the years my complaint is that the team has not been built to fully exploit Karlsson's unique skill set. Since the beginning of the season I have believed this team can reflect a totality equal to or greater than the Karlsson skill set. I believe they are that good.

Everything is now about building the play through Karlsson. They are so much better than what they were before Christmas and the addition of deadline players has really strengthened their line up.

I think they match up really well against every team in the East except for the Penguins. They are playing a really strong playoff style of hockey and I will be disappointed if they do not progress.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 13 @ 1:11 PM ET
Seriously, , and I really do mean to apply a serious perspective.

I believe in this Sens team. Over the years my complaint is that the team has not been built to fully exploit Karlsson's unique skill set. Since the beginning of the season I have believed this team can reflect a totality equal to or greater than the Karlsson skill set. I believe they are that good.

Everything is now about building the play through Karlsson. They are so much better than what they were before Christmas and the addition of deadline players has really strengthened their line up.

I think they match up really well against every team in the East except for the Penguins. They are playing a really strong playoff style of hockey and I will be disappointed if they do not progress.

- spatso


Plan the Parade!!!!
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Mar 13 @ 1:34 PM ET
Plan the Parade!!!!
- prock


I will save a seat on the float for you. You can wear your Leaf sweater.
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