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senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 23 @ 12:18 PM ET
Momentum in sports is a new concept.
- golfingsince


How would the sens bring it with them? Where do you put it between games?
Do you just have it still when the next game starts?

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:19 PM ET
How does that work?
- senstroll


You have to store it in the overhead bin on the flight home.

never check that poop. airlines lose poop all the time.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Nov 23 @ 12:28 PM ET
How would the sens bring it with them? Where do you put it between games?
Do you just have it still when the next game starts?

- senstroll


Maybe you should google that.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Nov 23 @ 12:29 PM ET
Momentum in sports is a new concept.
- golfingsince



yeah, and one decent period among a several game streak of garbage counts as significant momentum too. At least, that's what I'm told about this new momentum thing.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 23 @ 12:32 PM ET
Maybe you should google that.
- golfingsince



no worries, Prock helped ... you store it in the overhead bin on the flight home
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Nov 23 @ 12:35 PM ET
yeah, and one decent period among a several game streak of garbage counts as significant momentum too. At least, that's what I'm told about this new momentum thing.
- prock


He said IF, and they're playing an average team without it's best defender and captain.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 23 @ 1:02 PM ET
He said IF, and they're playing an average team without it's best defender and captain.
- golfingsince



whoa calm down
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Nov 23 @ 1:15 PM ET
whoa calm down
- senstroll



he's really rattled.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 23 @ 2:35 PM ET
Regardless of last night's game I still think the Sens are in a bad situation overall. But I get you're riding the high of a big win and feeling good. It's what being a fan is all about.
- systemtool



They were full value for the win last night, and in the past season would follow a game like that up with a sleeper, and lose to a team they shouldn't have....... so tomorrows game against the Bruins will be a test ..... I plan to attend the game anyways.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 23 @ 2:36 PM ET
Look about half way up the page, where you agree that Ottawa's moves aren't made with the intent to win games, but only to save money.

Don't tell me one win is all it takes to make you flip your position.

As for the Leafs, their goal is to win the cup. Rebuilding and developing youth is a big part of that. If the youth is leading the team to victory often enough that they don't get a good draft position... that's a good thing.

- Feeling Glucky?



asked you to quote my post where I agree with your claim ......... did not think you could.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 23 @ 2:38 PM ET
I don't understand why you're so happy about winning one goal games. Wouldn't you rather a team that wins by many goals, and dominates, instead of scraping by? And giving up points to other teams in OT? And even the shootout, which can be a drawback in the standings?

Further, how can you see this as a good sign, a bunch of one goal wins, when the Sens schedule has been so easy?

I don't get why you bring this up. I'd be hiding it if I were you.

- prock





So........... it would be better to lose those one goal games???
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 23 @ 2:38 PM ET
You have to store it in the overhead bin on the flight home.

never check that poop. airlines lose poop all the time.

- prock



They took the train to Montreal and back.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Nov 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
They took the train to Montreal and back.
- D0PPELGANGER



hahahaha. omg Melnyk.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Nov 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
So........... it would be better to lose those one goal games???
- D0PPELGANGER


It would probably be better for YOUR organization.

Either way, it's nothing to be bragging about.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 23 @ 2:59 PM ET
It would probably be better for YOUR organization.

Either way, it's nothing to be bragging about.

- prock



So you think a team that is 9 (wins) and 2 (losses) in one goal games is not good?

Do the leafs strive to be on the losing end of one goal games?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
They were full value for the win last night, and in the past season would follow a game like that up with a sleeper, and lose to a team they shouldn't have....... so tomorrows game against the Bruins will be a test ..... I plan to attend the game anyways.
- D0PPELGANGER



The Shot attempts were 79-42 for Montreal
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Nov 23 @ 3:26 PM ET
So you think a team that is 9 (wins) and 2 (losses) in one goal games is not good?

Do the leafs strive to be on the losing end of one goal games?

- D0PPELGANGER


Is it "good"? No, it's not. It's acceptable. I'd rather be 0 wins, 2 losses in one goal games, and have those 9 wins in the 2+ goal win column. Especially when you factor in the Sens being 3 wins 6 losses in games with a 2 or more goal differential. In other words, sometimes the Sens scrape by and win a game, but they also get blown out a fair bit. They lead the league in 3+ goal losses in fact.

The Leafs strive to win games by more than one goal. They'd strive to be the Rangers, who have 13 wins by more than 1 goal.

all said and done I'd say any teams record with a certainew goal differential is rather meaningless if that teams record with other goal differentials is rather bad. other than I'd rather lose by less if I'm losing and win by more if I'm winning.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Nov 23 @ 5:14 PM ET
hahahaha. omg Melnyk.
- prock




daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 23 @ 5:17 PM ET
ottawa is in a playoff spot!!!
- daeth

Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Nov 23 @ 6:47 PM ET
They took the train to Montreal and back.
- D0PPELGANGER

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 23 @ 6:51 PM ET
asked you to quote my post where I agree with your claim ......... did not think you could.
- D0PPELGANGER

I told you to scroll up half a page.


I mistakenly assumed that would be easy for you.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 23 @ 6:55 PM ET
Again that's your spin on the current state of the Senators ...... aka wishful thinking.

Even glucky has explained the reasoning behind the trade between the two Ontario teams, and none of it had to do with with "winning now" as much as you pray that it is, but it was not.


I may be in the minority in thinking the Leafs would have a better on-ice product with Phaneuf on the team this year.

That being said, part of the rebuild was a culture shift, and that involved getting rid of the old guard. With that in mind I think we all knew that it would be hard to move Phaneuf'a cap without taking back another albatross, unless he was moved to a budget team that had no real intention of ever spending to the cap or competing for the cup, that just had to make moves to placate their fanbase, even if those moves were terrible deals.


And thats exactly what happened. And on the plus side it bought us long-term cap relief to improve the team as our prospects develop... and Ottawa saved some cash. It's rare that both teams in a trade accomplish their objectives.
- Feeling Glucky?


Keep deluding yourself if you wish, that's your right, I guess.

- D0PPELGANGER
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:19 PM ET
The Shot attempts were 79-42 for Montreal
- senstroll


did you watch the game?
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:21 PM ET
I told you to scroll up half a page.


I mistakenly assumed that would be easy for you.

- Feeling Glucky?



there were only two posts between yours, and the top of the page ......... neither had the words that you're trying to claim I said ................ so either quote the post, or admit you're mistaken
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:29 PM ET
Is it "good"? No, it's not. It's acceptable. I'd rather be 0 wins, 2 losses in one goal games, and have those 9 wins in the 2+ goal win column. Especially when you factor in the Sens being 3 wins 6 losses in games with a 2 or more goal differential. In other words, sometimes the Sens scrape by and win a game, but they also get blown out a fair bit. They lead the league in 3+ goal losses in fact.

The Leafs strive to win games by more than one goal. They'd strive to be the Rangers, who have 13 wins by more than 1 goal.

all said and done I'd say any teams record with a certainew goal differential is rather meaningless if that teams record with other goal differentials is rather bad. other than I'd rather lose by less if I'm losing and win by more if I'm winning.

- prock




Okay, so I guess that means you're happy with the leaf losing in a shoot out.

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