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top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Sep 19 @ 1:40 PM ET
Yeah and the game was nowhere near as close as the score indicated, and the Leafs were missing the two best D and two best forward prospects.
- Aetherial
Yeah saw that ,we arent close when it comes to prospects .We have some nice ones in Chabot,Brown and White but they are likely a few years off .Next season it should be closer as most of the best for the leafy,s will be in the NHL
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 19 @ 3:09 PM ET
Yeah saw that ,we arent close when it comes to prospects .We have some nice ones in Chabot,Brown and White but they are likely a few years off .Next season it should be closer as most of the best for the leafy,s will be in the NHL

- top shelf 15


Chabot
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 19 @ 7:57 PM ET
Chabot
- Aetherial


Apparently had a very good game vs the Penguin rookies........... but he's not playing in the NHL this season, and maybe not even next season either.......... need to take their time with him.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Sep 19 @ 9:00 PM ET
May need to just take the compensation and move on.

Could trade him now for some guys still in Juniors though.

- PhillySportsGuy

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 20 @ 8:33 AM ET
Apparently had a very good game vs the Penguin rookies........... but he's not playing in the NHL this season, and maybe not even next season either.......... need to take their time with him.
- D0PPELGANGER


I can see him in the Bing this year, but he'll be 20 next season. It seems like guys are getting a shot at a younger and younger age. I wouldn't think it is out of the question to see him next year.

We are feeling the "take your time" pain also. It is great to be excited about good young prospects but tough to wait.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 20 @ 8:36 AM ET
I can see him in the Bing this year, but he'll be 20 next season. It seems like guys are getting a shot at a younger and younger age. I wouldn't think it is out of the question to see him next year.

We are feeling the "take your time" pain also. It is great to be excited about good young prospects but tough to wait.

- Aetherial



With Matthews being so dominant in the WC, and Zaitsev looking very good as well, I think the Leafs will surprise a few this year. Those that are thinking they'll be near dead last, not so much.

That question Dopps asked a while ago, who would I choose, THIS YEAR, between the Leafs and Sens, I'm leaning more towards the Leafs now.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 20 @ 8:43 AM ET
I can see him in the Bing this year, but he'll be 20 next season. It seems like guys are getting a shot at a younger and younger age. I wouldn't think it is out of the question to see him next year.

We are feeling the "take your time" pain also. It is great to be excited about good young prospects but tough to wait.

- Aetherial


A HUGE Boston fan said the leaf should be fun to watch this season, with their three top prospects expected to play in the NHL this season ........ I think Ottawa fans will have to wait at least a season to see one of Chabot, White or Brown make the Sens roster, and play a regular shift. The longer they play in the AHL the better as far as I'm concerned.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 20 @ 8:44 AM ET
With Matthews being so dominant in the WC, and Zaitsev looking very good as well, I think the Leafs will surprise a few this year. Those that are thinking they'll be near dead last, not so much.

That question Dopps asked a while ago, who would I choose, THIS YEAR, between the Leafs and Sens, I'm leaning more towards the Leafs now.

- prock




What did I ask?
Was it which team would finish higher in the Conference?
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 20 @ 8:58 AM ET
What did I ask?
Was it which team would finish higher in the Conference?

- D0PPELGANGER



Something along those lines. I said it woudl be pretty close.

With Zaitsev looking so good, and Matthews as well, I think I'm leaning towards the Leafs now. Neither will be playoffs teams, but I'm thinking the Leafs will better, as soon as this year.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 20 @ 9:06 AM ET
Something along those lines. I said it woudl be pretty close.

With Zaitsev looking so good, and Matthews as well, I think I'm leaning towards the Leafs now. Neither will be playoffs teams, but I'm thinking the Leafs will better, as soon as this year.

- prock



I agree neither team, based on last years play on the ice, should not make the playoffs.

The leafs are going to have a lot of rookies in their line up this season, and could help the team exceed expectations.

Ottawa was made a few changes, and brought in a new coaching staff that wants to play a more defensive overall game ...... including the "trap". So theoretically this could mean more wins in close games.

The other thing to consider is that a number of teams in the division, on paper, have improved their teams, more that either team in Ontario ......... but the games are not played on paper, and injuries and other unforeseen events could enter into the mix.

I think we'll know by US thanksgiving what kinda of progress either team has, or has not made.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 20 @ 9:12 AM ET
I agree neither team, based on last years play on the ice, should not make the playoffs.

The leafs are going to have a lot of rookies in their line up this season, and could help the team exceed expectations.

Ottawa was made a few changes, and brought in a new coaching staff that wants to play a more defensive overall game ...... including the "trap". So theoretically this could mean more wins in close games.

The other thing to consider is that a number of teams in the division, on paper, have improved their teams, more that either team in Ontario ......... but the games are not played on paper, and injuries and other unforeseen events could enter into the mix.

I think we'll know by US thanksgiving what kinda of progress either team has, or has not made.

- D0PPELGANGER


This is said every year. "Every other team has improved". It doesn't work that way. Some will improve, some will be worse.

My take, Florida, Tampa, Montreal will take the top 3 in the division. Pittsburgh, Washington, Islanders the other division. Philly and the Rangers/Bruins most likely. Canes or Sabres could surprise and snag a late seed. Detroit will miss I think. Rangers could actually drop quite a bit. could go either way.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 20 @ 9:43 AM ET
Does anyone think Laine might be the better choice?
- spatso



I'm leaning towards Matthews
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 20 @ 1:29 PM ET
I'm leaning towards Matthews
- senstroll


No need to lean, step over the line and stand with Austin 20.16
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 22 @ 6:49 AM ET
No need to lean, step over the line and stand with Austin 20.16
- D0PPELGANGER

Looks like Pronman has changed his mind on the Laine/Matthews debate.


So that leaves McKeen's and no other major scout/scouting service, that ranks Laine higher.

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 22 @ 9:32 AM ET
i think we need to keep things in perspective. Kessel will likely win the Conn Smyth. Laine is the favourite for the Calder next year and Ottawa fans are very happy with the Phaneuf deal. So what part of the pattern are you missing?
- spatso


Spatso brilliance.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 22 @ 10:14 AM ET
Spatso brilliance.
- systemtool



Looking back, I think the last day he posted here was Sept 16.

Wasn't that the day the WC and prospect camps opened?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 22 @ 8:16 PM ET
Looking back, I think the last day he posted here was Sept 16.

Wasn't that the day the WC and prospect camps opened?

- prock


Haven't seen him in awhile but haven't been here much lately either. He's lurking for the right trollportunity.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 22 @ 11:10 PM ET
Haven't seen him in awhile but haven't been here much lately either. He's lurking for the right trollportunity.
- systemtool


senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 23 @ 8:05 AM ET

- Tumbleweed



SPAGETT!!

that is pretty much how I picture him
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 23 @ 9:28 AM ET
SPAGETT!!

that is pretty much how I picture him

- senstroll


I was going to say the same thing
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 26 @ 11:15 AM ET
That chaisson for seiloff trade already paying dividends.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 26 @ 11:49 AM ET
That chaisson for seiloff trade already paying dividends.
- Tumbleweed

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 26 @ 11:52 AM ET
That chaisson for seiloff trade already paying dividends.
- Tumbleweed



eeeewwwww, ouch.

Truthfully, not that I think Macarthur makes much of a difference, but another NHL basement finish for the Sens may be just what they need, if it wakes them up and finally convinces they need to tear down and start over.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 26 @ 12:29 PM ET
That chaisson for seiloff trade already paying dividends.
- Tumbleweed


I like to think of it as the Spezza > chaisson > seiloff trade
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Sep 26 @ 1:49 PM ET
That chaisson for seiloff trade already paying dividends.
- Tumbleweed



I'd expect that from a leaf fan, as their bar is set so low, but expected a little more class from a Habs fan
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