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Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Oct 26 @ 1:23 AM ET
More like Floppleganger LOLOLOL
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 26 @ 7:16 AM ET
No you're wrong, the leafs were not (at this time last year) ahead of the Senators in points.
http://dropyourgloves.com...?Date=2014-10-25&League=1
And Yes the Senators do have more Cap space than the leafs
http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams

- D0PPELGANGER



Alright, ok the leafs were leading since mid mid November. Way to miss the point

The leafs have 8mil in cap space. That's more than 6.9.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 26 @ 8:41 AM ET
Alright, ok the leafs were leading since mid mid November. Way to miss the point

The leafs have 8mil in cap space. That's more than 6.9.

- burn



NOt according to this site (below) that says they have only 277K.

http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams?year=2016

This one shows 450K

http://capfriendly.com/

This one shows 1.1 Million

http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/cap/



The HB chart shows 25 Million

So which one is correct?

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 26 @ 9:09 AM ET
NOt according to this site (below) that says they have only 277K.

http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams?year=2016

This one shows 450K

http://capfriendly.com/

This one shows 1.1 Million

http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/cap/



The HB chart shows 25 Million

So which one is correct?

- D0PPELGANGER


.250k or so of caps pace with robidas and Horton on ltir that makes it to 8.5 or there abouts.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 26 @ 10:24 AM ET
the Sens have an expectation of making the playoffs and following up on Last season.
the leafs have zero expectations

I would say the sens are falling short so far. Lost 4 in a row, I didn't realize until now how bad they are at giving up shots.

Leafs SF 33.9 (3rd) SA 29.6 (17th)
Sens SF 30.1 (17th) SA 32.8 (28th)

Did not think Babcock would have such a big effect that quickly.

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 26 @ 10:32 AM ET
the Sens have an expectation of making the playoffs and following up on Last season.
the leafs have zero expectations

I would say the sens are falling short so far. Lost 4 in a row, I didn't realize until now how bad they are at giving up shots.

Leafs SF 33.9 (3rd) SA 29.6 (17th)
Sens SF 30.1 (17th) SA 32.8 (28th)

Did not think Babcock would have such a big effect that quickly.

- senstroll

And some pretty good offensive talent developing with the Marlies, as well as the rest of the prospect pool.

Will be interesting to see how the younger talent assimilates into Babcock's system, and what kind of effect that will have.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 26 @ 10:48 AM ET
And some pretty good offensive talent developing with the Marlies, as well as the rest of the prospect pool.

Will be interesting to see how the younger talent assimilates into Babcock's system, and what kind of effect that will have.

- Feeling Glucky?



it sounds like they are running the same systems from ECHL > Marlies > Leafs

Interesting the Marlies Sat Nylander, Kapanen and I think Brown last game.. won 3-1. The depth of the Marlies which are mostly prospects and not vets is impressive.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 26 @ 10:58 AM ET
it sounds like they are running the same systems from ECHL > Marlies > Leafs

Interesting the Marlies Sat Nylander, Kapanen and I think Brown last game.. won 3-1. The depth of the Marlies which are mostly prospects and not vets is impressive.

- senstroll

Yup... and the Leafs still have some players overseas like Johnsson. PPG in the SHL at 20. Impressive.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 26 @ 11:38 AM ET
the Sens have an expectation of making the playoffs and following up on Last season.
the leafs have zero expectations

I would say the sens are falling short so far. Lost 4 in a row, I didn't realize until now how bad they are at giving up shots.

Leafs SF 33.9 (3rd) SA 29.6 (17th)
Sens SF 30.1 (17th) SA 32.8 (28th)

Did not think Babcock would have such a big effect that quickly.

- senstroll


Sens definitely not on the right track, and they seem to be playing thinking they can pick up the games they need, later in the season..........well lightning does not strike twice in the same place, and they better get their game together sooner rather than later, if they have any playoff aspirations.

If you ask me, I don't see them making the playoffs next spring..............unless there are some line up adjustments.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 26 @ 12:39 PM ET
Sens definitely not on the right track, and they seem to be playing thinking they can pick up the games they need, later in the season..........well lightning does not strike twice in the same place, and they better get their game together sooner rather than later, if they have any playoff aspirations.

If you ask me, I don't see them making the playoffs next spring..............unless there are some line up adjustments.

- D0PPELGANGER



Dont worry your coach has this

Ian Mendes ‏@ian_mendes
Dave Cameron says he would like each player to improve by 5 per cent. He says that 20 guys doing that would equal 100 per cent improvement.


daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 26 @ 12:41 PM ET
there's a 5% chance he passed grade 9 math
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 26 @ 12:41 PM ET
i'm actually impressed at the stupidity of that statement.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Oct 26 @ 12:52 PM ET
Dont worry your coach has this




- senstroll



Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 26 @ 12:56 PM ET
Dont worry your coach has this




- senstroll

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 26 @ 1:19 PM ET
i'm actually impressed at the stupidity of that statement.
- daeth


it gives Randy Carlyle flashbacks.. So glad that era is over
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 29 @ 11:25 AM ET
Sens did not deserve to win last night.

With a number of injuries requiring a few call ups from Binghamton being in the line up, you'd think the veterans would use the KISS principle.

But there were a number of low percentage plays and passes that resulted in a number of turnovers and quality scoring chances for the Flames.

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 29 @ 11:53 AM ET
Sens did not deserve to win last night.

With a number of injuries requiring a few call ups from Binghamton being in the line up, you'd think the veterans would use the KISS principle.

But there were a number of low percentage plays and passes that resulted in a number of turnovers and quality scoring chances for the Flames.

- D0PPELGANGER

From what I have learned in our conversations, they didn't actually win, because it wasn't in regulation.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 29 @ 11:55 AM ET
From what I have learned in our conversations, they didn't actually win, because it wasn't in regulation.
- Feeling Glucky?

correct

with the amount they were outshot even yost would agree they should be relegated
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 29 @ 12:04 PM ET
From what I have learned in our conversations, they didn't actually win, because it wasn't in regulation.
- Feeling Glucky?



Regulation wins are worth more when it comes to tie breaking at the end of the season.

SO wins are like empty net goals............. they count, but should not be equated with regulation wins and goals scored with the goaltender in the net.

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 29 @ 12:29 PM ET
Regulation wins are worth more when it comes to tie breaking at the end of the season.

SO wins are like empty net goals............. they count, but should not be equated with regulation wins and goals scored with the goaltender in the net.

- D0PPELGANGER



Has there been any hamburger sightings on the ice?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Oct 29 @ 1:50 PM ET
Has there been any hamburger sightings on the ice?
- senstroll

D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Oct 31 @ 4:57 PM ET
The best game played all season, just like their incredible run at the end of last season.



Can they do it again tonight?
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 1 @ 10:17 AM ET
The best game played all season, just like their incredible run at the end of last season.



Can they do it again tonight?

- D0PPELGANGER

nope
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Nov 1 @ 10:49 AM ET
nope
- Pecafan Fan

Lol
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 1 @ 11:51 AM ET
nope
- Pecafan Fan

harsh but fair
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