You're basing everything off of them having 32 million in cap space. Who knows if that will actually be the case. I'm hoping (foolishly?) that they will have the ability to make a few hockey trades. Perhaps trade from a position of strength (wing) to fill a position of weakness (center or defense). The trade market seems to be more active with the cap space going up and I'm hoping these guys can pull off a big trade or two. I don't have lots of hope for them landing a big name free agent, but perhaps with Tocchet being the coach (players like him and he was just named asst. coach of team Canada) they can surprise us. I'm just not ready to pull the rug out from this relatively new regime just yet, since Chuckles left them in shambles. I wanna see what this roster looks like a year from now.
- Phillywhiteout

Still buying the Tocchet will attract players propaganda. Who did he attract in his previous stops?

At the top of each draft is a group deemed most likely to be really good. Last year it was 6 dmen. This year it was 5 forwards.

Will it be 100% ? Obviously no. But the one team in league that continues to get head scratching reviews from draft is flyers. At least as of last decade or so. Who has Philly drafted that was highly criticized as dumb or probably wrong that flyers have proven wrong? In last 5 or so years? I can’t think of any. That’s bad. Really bad. It’s not even an elite thing. It’s top end talent too. See caulfield vs
York. They just don’t get the benefit of the doubt anymore. Chuck lost it really really fast and so did briere.

Me personally I gave them the benefit at first. Honestly you one strike with me. You (frank) up 2nd time you’re done imo.

You can’t screw the pooch time and time again it just pushes a real cup building team back double the time if not more
- Stayin alive

They will replace those 5 with their future 3rd liners on ELC. Problem solved. Amazes me how Flyers fan think/react.

Outside of money their is no incentive for an elite player to sign with the Flyers.

Leafs board talking about a rumored trade for Tippett:

Max Domi, Nick Robertson, prospect Ben Danford, and a 2028 first-round pick
- Quetzalcoatl

Cant see the Flyers doing that at all. It would be admitting a mistake way to early. They 100% want to see "Tipper" under Tocchet.

No #1 defender, or #1 center, or #1 goalie. Yes that potential is there 100%.

Do you or other Flyers fans look at other teams rosters and prospects in their system?
- furio16

You act like I'm some gullible Flyers fan that knows nothing about the game. Just stop already. Yes, I look at other teams and right now the most impressive rebuilding team in the east is probably Montreal. They have the potential to be scary in a few years. They are miles ahead of the Flyers in their rebuild, but that doesn't mean that things can't change. The Metro division could be had as none of those teams are scary. Yes, most of the teams in the Metro are still better than the Flyers currently, but by how much? Gonna have to be some shrewd moves along the way. No doubt.

Leafs board talking about a rumored trade for Tippett:

Max Domi, Nick Robertson, prospect Ben Danford, and a 2028 first-round pick
- Quetzalcoatl

Do it!!!! I know I was the one that claimed that Tippett would be a perennial 40 goal scorer, but I think I was mistaken. His game regressed badly last year and I certainly wouldn't mind them ridding themselves of that contract. Of course, one could always blame Torts for his failures, but I just don't know about this guy's hockey IQ and the ability to play with others. Seems like a great raw talent, but plays a one on one game too much.

Still buying the Tocchet will attract players propaganda. Who did he attract in his previous stops?
- furio16

Again, living in the past. You must live in a stagnant world that never evolves? I don't listen to propaganda and never have. I really wasn't in favor of the hiring to be honest, but it makes sense that he is well liked by players and now a coach for team Canada at the Olympics, so it stands to reason that he may have some connections.

Again, living in the past. You must live in a stagnant world that never evolves? I don't listen to propaganda and never have. I really wasn't in favor of the hiring to be honest, but it makes sense that he is well liked by players and now a coach for team Canada at the Olympics, so it stands to reason that he may have some connections.
- Phillywhiteout

Being well liked is fine. It will have no bearing on any top end players wanting to sign with the Flyers.

You do listen to propaganda as you are saying exactly what Brire has spouted out.

You act like I'm some gullible Flyers fan that knows nothing about the game. Just stop already. Yes, I look at other teams and right now the most impressive rebuilding team in the east is probably Montreal. They have the potential to be scary in a few years. They are miles ahead of the Flyers in their rebuild, but that doesn't mean that things can't change. The Metro division could be had as none of those teams are scary. Yes, most of the teams in the Metro are still better than the Flyers currently, but by how much? Gonna have to be some shrewd moves along the way. No doubt.
- Phillywhiteout

Looking forward to the Flyers being cup contenders in 2028.

Can it happen? Yes. Is it likely? No. Would other picks had better chance? According to scouts and experts yes.

There in lies the problem. Time after time flyers are proven wrong. What’s the goal here? The end game? If it’s just entertain me and make playoffs then fine briere may be on an achieving path. If it’s a cup building team he’s flown the coop.
- Stayin alive

I mean at some point as a fan we have to at least give our “experts and scouts” the benefit of the doubt. They are the ones that have seen these kids play…Again I’m not even saying you won’t be proven correct…but I have always taken a wait and see approach. I really liked this past draft after being slightly underwhelmed with DB’s first two outside of the Michkov pick.

Do it!!!! I know I was the one that claimed that Tippett would be a perennial 40 goal scorer, but I think I was mistaken. His game regressed badly last year and I certainly wouldn't mind them ridding themselves of that contract. Of course, one could always blame Torts for his failures, but I just don't know about this guy's hockey IQ and the ability to play with others. Seems like a great raw talent, but plays a one on one game too much.
- Phillywhiteout

Bravo

I mean at some point as a fan we have to at least give our “experts and scouts” the benefit of the doubt. They are the ones that have seen these kids play…Again I’m not even saying you won’t be proven correct…but I have always taken a wait and see approach. I really liked this past draft after being slightly underwhelmed with DB’s first two outside of the Michkov pick.
- landros 2

They haven't earned getting the benefit of the doubt. If they had a better track record, I would have no issue saying what you're saying. Especially Flahr. He does not have this past record of success.

My problem is they seem to settle and target lower skilled guys over other traits on a consistent basis. They don't seem to believe that talent wins. One clear example to me was the passing over of Ryabkin. You hear about the flaws and possible character issues. When you have 4 picks in the 2nd and he was available at each pick you need to swing for the fence and take the high-end talent. Not 3 guys who are interchangeable for the most part. This is where you 100% roll the dice in high end player with some red flags.

Who do you think has potential to be a #1 center or #1 Defensemen in the system.

Flyers been hoping for decades. Hope doesn't work.
- furio16

Luchanko as a #1 …..more likely will be a very good all around #2. Can’t lose sight that this kid is still 18…doesn’t even turn 19 until next month. Elite speed, great vision and a is a physical specimen.

Drydale seems to be turning a corner. After being taken # 6 over all he was highly touted….funny same sort of draft comparison to Z. Buium…but injuries and a slow development have curbed peoples opinion of him even though he’s still only 23. I still think talent, vision and skating wise he has potential to be a top pairing guy….not elite, but top pairing.

Again still young guys developing. Huge year for both guys….my opinion, whether anyone agree’s I could care less.

I do agree that high end talent is still an issue but at least I see talent in the prospect pool…whether they can develop it or have these kids hit another level is the question.

They haven't earned getting the benefit of the doubt. If they had a better track record, I would have no issue saying what you're saying. Especially Flahr. He does not have this past record of success.

My problem is they seem to settle and target lower skilled guys over other traits on a consistent basis. They don't seem to believe that talent wins. One clear example to me was the passing over of Ryabkin. You hear about the flaws and possible character issues. When you have 4 picks in the 2nd and he was available at each pick you need to swing for the fence and take the high-end talent. Not 3 guys who are interchangeable for the most part. This is where you 100% roll the dice in high end player with some red flags.
- furio16

Maybe true on benefit of the doubt…but drafts can’t be judged in such a short time frame…at least not realistically. I actually was hoping for Ryabkin with one of those picks….and hoped for Malcom Spence or Alexander Zharovsky…when rnd 2 got underway. I think as we see how these drafts work out, Flahr definitely should be on the hot seat….

Maybe true on benefit of the doubt…but drafts can’t be judged in such a short time frame…at least not realistically. I actually was hoping for Ryabkin with one of those picks….and hoped for Malcom Spence or Alexander Zharovsky…when rnd 2 got underway. I think as we see how these drafts work out, Flahr definitely should be on the hot seat….
- landros 2

Agree they can't be judged until a few years out. My opinion is I do not think the Flyers take the BPA approach.

They clearly went for size even though those players are years out. It is an ever-evolving league. Flyers always seem at least 1 step behind.

Do it!!!! I know I was the one that claimed that Tippett would be a perennial 40 goal scorer, but I think I was mistaken. His game regressed badly last year and I certainly wouldn't mind them ridding themselves of that contract. Of course, one could always blame Torts for his failures, but I just don't know about this guy's hockey IQ and the ability to play with others. Seems like a great raw talent, but plays a one on one game too much.
- Phillywhiteout

Still in the camp of what he might be in his prime. He has a lot of motivation to bounce back this season and players have a prime for a reason. I would like to say bottom out but the isles just showed tanking is not always rewarded. I think the team as constructed is still a bottom 10 team, a lot would have to go right to be in playoff contention.

Tip takes a step back this season, a step into his prime, he will be a good piece when the team is better 2-3 years from now.

Agree they can't be judged until a few years out. My opinion is I do not think the Flyers take the BPA approach.

They clearly went for size even though those players are years out. It is an ever-evolving league. Flyers always seem at least 1 step behind.
- furio16

They did go heavy in this draft….kind of needed some bigger bodies, but I’m not sure they needed to draft all size….i did read somewhere that the entire draft seemed to go that way though.

Still in the camp of what he might be in his prime. He has a lot of motivation to bounce back this season and players have a prime for a reason. I would like to say bottom out but the isles just showed tanking is not always rewarded. I think the team as constructed is still a bottom 10 team, a lot would have to go right to be in playoff contention.

Tip takes a step back this season, a step into his prime, he will be a good piece when the team is better 2-3 years from now.
- wcorvette

Not really as he has long term contract and is set for life. He is going to be 27, is he not in his prime now? When does his prime start?

They did go heavy in this draft….kind of needed some bigger bodies, but I’m not sure they needed to draft all size….i did read somewhere that the entire draft seemed to go that way though.
- landros 2

Reactionary GM's. Thinking behind not forward.

Carter Hart is about to be acquitted.

Carter Hart is about to be acquitted.
- landros 2

Based on what was presented didn't seem to me to be any criminal act. Hope he and the others can get their career/lives back on track.

Will be interesting to see how he looks after over a year and a half away. If he is signed would have to think he starts in the AHL to get back on track. Probably wins a cup in Edmonton.

Carter Hart is about to be acquitted.
- landros 2

Looking like they're all going to be.

You liked what Hextall was doing. Same with Chuck, now Briere. You will say the same for whoever replaces Briere.

Looking forward to the Flyers winning a cup in 9 years.
- furio16

This is BS, I'm not sure where you're getting that from. I liked the Hextal hiring at first and then felt he wasn't progressing the team, and he was reportedly a huge control freak a-hole. Hated the Fletcher hiring, for obvious reasons, but I'm hopeful with Briere, you got me there...

Based on what was presented didn't seem to me to be any criminal act. Hope he and the others can get their career/lives back on track.

Will be interesting to see how he looks after over a year and a half away. If he is signed would have to think he starts in the AHL to get back on track. Probably wins a cup in Edmonton.
- furio16

It really didn’t seem like they could arrive at any other verdict….apparently the judge agrees . So the Flyers lose a decent asset for nothing. Bettman also made some inflammatory comments…does he issue an apology?

Looking like they're all going to be.
- Dave21Brown

After following along I can’t say I’m surprised at this…apparently virtue signalling didn’t fly with this judge.

This is BS, I'm not sure where you're getting that from. I liked the Hextal hiring at first and then felt he wasn't progressing the team, and he was reportedly a huge control freak a-hole. Hated the Fletcher hiring, for obvious reasons, but I'm hopeful with Briere, you got me there...
- Dave21Brown

Funny I’m with you on all of these.lol.