They were still positive and the people who were still posting didn't feel like the needed to insult people when responding to posts.
- WhiskeyMan

Nobody was posting. Dude call a spade a spade. Same Blog up for 3-4 days. With a grand total of 5 comments the whole time. Or did I miss something? That’s not discussion imo

Who said they suck? This is you making things up. Both have been in the 30-point range the last 2 years. Imagine touting Dvorak as this great signing. Had to overpay by millions to acquire his services.

Who said that is a bad thing? Once again you making things up. They will surely spend that money on more middling players. Until proven otherwise.

Not sure what you mean with ND and Zamula.

2 years left on those contracts isn’t exactly a good thing.

Flyers Santa sacks will be available in 4/5 months.
- furio16

I’ll gladly be the one to say the Dvorak contract sucks. Ties up cap space that could be used at tdl to take players contracts for draft picks

Martone going to college was the no-brainer easy decision to make. Will Flyers sign him at end of season and burn a year of his ELC? Doesn't the kid have to earn it first?

Another season or two and I think the Flyers are loaded for bear for a playoff run. Probably as a wildcard.
- StepfordSam

He’s a top 6 pick so no he doesn’t have to “earn it”. This is the new nhl. You sign him and you have 3 years plus his 1 year of college to develop. If he’s good enough to pick at 6 he already “earned it”

Martone going to college was the no-brainer easy decision to make. Will Flyers sign him at end of season and burn a year of his ELC? Doesn't the kid have to earn it first?

Another season or two and I think the Flyers are loaded for bear for a playoff run. Probably as a wildcard.
- StepfordSam

“Playoff run” please explain your idea of run? As in win playoff rounds? Or push to simply make playoffs maybe

before the mass banning the conversation was consistently about DB doing to do this wrong or that wrong, sign an FA for picks but it appears DB has cleaned out the past players after evaluating their potential and stocked up the prospects. Would I love a top 2 pick, would I have preferred a full tank, yea but with the cards DB was dealt he has done a good job.
- wcorvette

Ummmm no. Let’s be fair here he needed time to evaluate players? Ummm he was around for years before getting gm job. He knew the players.

Also be fair here. He was a player. Who would know better who can “play”


He’s done a below average job. And that’s being nice.

I get that it's easy to be disillusioned at this point, the organization hasn't given fans a lot to look forward to over the past many years. But I'd rather be positive about the good things happening right now, and there are good things happening, than dwell on the past.

I also understand that building isn't a quick process, they aren't coming out of this quickly, but for me there is reason to be optimistic.
- Dave21Brown

That would be true… if they were actually building…. Which they aren’t…. Not for a cup anyways….


And yes one shouldn’t dwell on the past… except they keep making the same basic mistakes as the past…
Coots turning 30/8 year extension
Tk turning 29/8 year extension
Etc etc etc

I agree they are inching towards respectability. To me it comes down the drafted players in the last few years. I am more optimistic then I have been in the last 5-6 years for sure….
- landros 2

Take mm out of equation(he was a no brainer that should’ve never fallen into their laps) and how optimistic are you?

That would be true… if they were actually building…. Which they aren’t…. Not for a cup anyways….


And yes one shouldn’t dwell on the past… except they keep making the same basic mistakes as the past…
Coots turning 30/8 year extension
Tk turning 29/8 year extension
Etc etc etc
- Stayin alive

What are the other mistakes? You only mentioned 1.

That would be true… if they were actually building…. Which they aren’t…. Not for a cup anyways….


And yes one shouldn’t dwell on the past… except they keep making the same basic mistakes as the past…
Coots turning 30/8 year extension
Tk turning 29/8 year extension
Etc etc etc
- Stayin alive

Coots was signed by Chuckles (as was ND) and why would you take MM out of the equation. The fact is that the Flyers drafted him. Oh but wait, that would be something POSITIVE, so please take that out of the equation. It's funny that you know EXACTLY what this regime is gonna do entirely based on the past. Perhaps you should stick to listening to the worthless local sports radio stations??

During this “rebuild” they have yet to find a #1 center, #1 defensemen, and #1 goalie as of today. The last 3 drafts that Briere has been running do you see any of those in the players he drafted?

Hell do they even have a #2 defensemen and #2 center in that group he drafted? Now they will have to wait a few years to see how the last 2 drafts pan out. On the surface drafting guys with bottom of the lineup potential will not cut it.

What are the other mistakes? You only mentioned 1.
- WhiskeyMan

Flyers are the Gold Standard.

Ummmm no. Let’s be fair here he needed time to evaluate players? Ummm he was around for years before getting gm job. He knew the players.

Also be fair here. He was a player. Who would know better who can “play”


He’s done a below average job. And that’s being nice.
- Stayin alive

you are welcome to your opinion

Take mm out of equation(he was a no brainer that should’ve never fallen into their laps) and how optimistic are you?
- Stayin alive

I like Luchanko….i was able to see a bunch of his games last year. Guelph sucked, but he was easily the best player on the ice for both teams in the games I watched. I really liked their draft this year. Martone has “star” type qualities and Nesbitt is only starting to scratch the surface. All their 2nd rnd picks in this past draft really have a chance to be very good NHL players.
I also believe Bonk will be a top 4, quality D man…so ya I am some what optimistic. Throw in Alex Bump, and include Michkov. To me it’s the start of a pretty good young Nucleus. I’m not suggesting dynasty, lol, but I do see some reasons to be a bit more excited then I have been for quite a while.

During this “rebuild” they have yet to find a #1 center, #1 defensemen, and #1 goalie as of today. The last 3 drafts that Briere has been running do you see any of those in the players he drafted?

Hell do they even have a #2 defensemen and #2 center in that group he drafted? Now they will have to wait a few years to see how the last 2 drafts pan out. On the surface drafting guys with bottom of the lineup potential will not cut it.
- furio16

Nesbitt and Luchanko both could turn into #2 type centers. I was happy they got Martone, as to me, he was the best forward in the draft. A number one center would be ideal, but I’m not sure this past draft even had one. The number one D man went off the board at #1.

What are the other mistakes? You only mentioned 1.
- WhiskeyMan

lol .. you are worse than MJL.

Tippet 8 yr contract. One dimensional player
Nick Seeler 4yr contract/2 yr no movement clause for 3rd pair dman who should've been traded.
Luchanko over Buium
Bonk over Perrault
The Luchanko fiasco at the beginning of last season
The York fiasco at the beginning of last season
The Torts dumpster fire that started day 1 of last season and lasted until he was fired at the end of the season.
The Flyers were a laughing stock early in the season as Torts did a record number of line changes while playing short handed defensively because they wouldn't call York up and left Jett in the press box.
How they handled Kolosov
How they bribed Fedotov with that contract and were beholden to him after he came over.

2024 - “Hopefully we can keep it rolling in getting to the playoffs,” Briere said on Thursday. “Now that’s the goal from now on, for me personally. … ”

Cutter Gauthier scorched earth campaign
not properly evaluating Drysdale before the trade because Torts doesn't believe in systems.
punishing York for Torts being an ass (just before Torts got fired).

No #1 center in the system (after 3 drafts)
No #1 d in the system (after 3 drafts)

None of these are news to you, hell some were earlier in this thread, so why are you being a jackass and asking for a recap?

This was never a rebuild, at best it was a retool with a limited budget due to all the long term contracts. The Flyers never wanted to be in a position to draft Martone. They would've been happier drafting 12th overall again.

They were actively trying to make the playoffs. They are just so bad at their jobs that they got the high draft pick.

This is one reason why people leave this site. You go over what management is doing wrong and the next day someone asks what are they doing wrong, please explain in detail. The next day, please explain again in detail.

Nesbitt and Luchanko both could turn into #2 type centers. I was happy they got Martone, as to me, he was the best forward in the draft. A number one center would be ideal, but I’m not sure this past draft even had one. The number one D man went off the board at #1.
- landros 2

All must go right for those to be top 6 centers. Nesbitt does not project to be that in anything I have seen. Jett possibly. Point is they should have more than they “could” turn into one when you pick where those 2 were picked.

The Flyers draft philosophy is backwards. They draft lower ceiling players. Ones you can find in trade and via free agency. High end talent you usually need to draft.

I like Luchanko….i was able to see a bunch of his games last year. Guelph sucked, but he was easily the best player on the ice for both teams in the games I watched. I really liked their draft this year. Martone has “star” type qualities and Nesbitt is only starting to scratch the surface. All their 2nd rnd picks in this past draft really have a chance to be very good NHL players.
I also believe Bonk will be a top 4, quality D man…so ya I am some what optimistic. Throw in Alex Bump, and include Michkov. To me it’s the start of a pretty good young Nucleus. I’m not suggesting dynasty, lol, but I do see some reasons to be a bit more excited then I have been for quite a while.
- landros 2

All those guys project to be 3rd/4th liners. Projections are just that, I get it. Do you have faith in the Flyers development in getting them to be anything more than that?

If those guys you mention (outside of MM and Martone) are part of the nucleus then the Flyers are going nowhere fast. Unless one of them just explode and exceed all expectations. They will end up being support/depth players. Which is fine if you have the top end talent. Of which the Flyers do not.

lol .. you are worse than MJL.

Tippet 8 yr contract. One dimensional player
Nick Seeler 4yr contract/2 yr no movement clause for 3rd pair dman who should've been traded.
Luchanko over Buium
Bonk over Perrault
The Luchanko fiasco at the beginning of last season
The York fiasco at the beginning of last season
The Torts dumpster fire that started day 1 of last season and lasted until he was fired at the end of the season.
The Flyers were a laughing stock early in the season as Torts did a record number of line changes while playing short handed defensively because they wouldn't call York up and left Jett in the press box.
How they handled Kolosov
How they bribed Fedotov with that contract and were beholden to him after he came over.

2024 - “Hopefully we can keep it rolling in getting to the playoffs,” Briere said on Thursday. “Now that’s the goal from now on, for me personally. … ”

Cutter Gauthier scorched earth campaign
not properly evaluating Drysdale before the trade because Torts doesn't believe in systems.
punishing York for Torts being an ass (just before Torts got fired).

No #1 center in the system (after 3 drafts)
No #1 d in the system (after 3 drafts)

None of these are news to you, hell some were earlier in this thread, so why are you being a jackass and asking for a recap?

This was never a rebuild, at best it was a retool with a limited budget due to all the long term contracts. The Flyers never wanted to be in a position to draft Martone. They would've been happier drafting 12th overall again.

They were actively trying to make the playoffs. They are just so bad at their jobs that they got the high draft pick.

This is one reason why people leave this site. You go over what management is doing wrong and the next day someone asks what are they doing wrong, please explain in detail. The next day, please explain again in detail.
- Flyers_01

I'm going to copy this into every response I give to every group chat I participate in. This has saved me hours of typing

lol .. you are worse than MJL.

Tippet 8 yr contract. One dimensional player
Nick Seeler 4yr contract/2 yr no movement clause for 3rd pair dman who should've been traded.
Luchanko over Buium
Bonk over Perrault
The Luchanko fiasco at the beginning of last season
The York fiasco at the beginning of last season
The Torts dumpster fire that started day 1 of last season and lasted until he was fired at the end of the season.
The Flyers were a laughing stock early in the season as Torts did a record number of line changes while playing short handed defensively because they wouldn't call York up and left Jett in the press box.
How they handled Kolosov
How they bribed Fedotov with that contract and were beholden to him after he came over.

2024 - “Hopefully we can keep it rolling in getting to the playoffs,” Briere said on Thursday. “Now that’s the goal from now on, for me personally. … ”

Cutter Gauthier scorched earth campaign
not properly evaluating Drysdale before the trade because Torts doesn't believe in systems.
punishing York for Torts being an ass (just before Torts got fired).

No #1 center in the system (after 3 drafts)
No #1 d in the system (after 3 drafts)

None of these are news to you, hell some were earlier in this thread, so why are you being a jackass and asking for a recap?

This was never a rebuild, at best it was a retool with a limited budget due to all the long term contracts. The Flyers never wanted to be in a position to draft Martone. They would've been happier drafting 12th overall again.

They were actively trying to make the playoffs. They are just so bad at their jobs that they got the high draft pick.

This is one reason why people leave this site. You go over what management is doing wrong and the next day someone asks what are they doing wrong, please explain in detail. The next day, please explain again in detail.
- Flyers_01

Rehashing past mistakes?? Torts is gone, yet he lives on in your brain apparently. Who hired Torts? That was an obvious mistake. You don't hire him for a rebuild and that was a fopa, but he is gone. Let it go! Thanks! Again, do you want Danny to come and say we wanna MISS the playoffs from here on out. What do you expect. You want them to ice the bad news bears of ice hockey and it ain't gonna happen. Thanks again!

Coots was signed by Chuckles (as was ND) and why would you take MM out of the equation. The fact is that the Flyers drafted him. Oh but wait, that would be something POSITIVE, so please take that out of the equation. It's funny that you know EXACTLY what this regime is gonna do entirely based on the past. Perhaps you should stick to listening to the worthless local sports radio stations??
- Phillywhiteout

You take mm out of equation because it was a complete no brainer decision to draft him. An absolute gift that other teams passed on drafting him. I said before the draft he was best player. Better than bedard. At worse he SHOULD go 2. So yeah drafting 7 you run to podium to take him. You want to give them some credit for not (frank)ing it up? K. Fine.

All those guys project to be 3rd/4th liners. Projections are just that, I get it. Do you have faith in the Flyers development in getting them to be anything more than that?

If those guys you mention (outside of MM and Martone) are part of the nucleus then the Flyers are going nowhere fast. Unless one of them just explode and exceed all expectations. They will end up being support/depth players. Which is fine if you have the top end talent. Of which the Flyers do not.
- furio16

It's insane how many props the (Comcast owned) media gives DB for being able to acquire so many picks in a below average draft for top talent. Maybe there was a reason everyone was trying to trade you 2025 draft picks?

The Flyers selected 9 players in a draft considered weak in high end talent and only have 5 picks in 2026, a projected much stronger draft.

This is what happens when an inexperienced GM get's taken advantage of. Not saying he made horrible picks but the 2024 and 2026 are considered much stronger draft classes but this was his all in year. Also, even with all of those picks, he was unable to trade up like everyone predicted he would into the top 3 or so.

Friedman -“One thing we’re seeing is for rentals it’s a 1st rounder. Draft guys aren’t crazy about this draft so that’s why teams are willing to do it.”

Martone is the only player that would play for the big club realistically in the next 2 years. The rest of the draft class is 3+ years away from being 3rd/4th line role players.

Big frame, needs work skating was the theme of this draft.

You take mm out of equation because it was a complete no brainer decision to draft him. An absolute gift that other teams passed on drafting him. I said before the draft he was best player. Better than bedard. At worse he SHOULD go 2. So yeah drafting 7 you run to podium to take him. You want to give them some credit for not (frank)ing it up? K. Fine.
- Stayin alive

My argument is that you can't take him out of the equation cause the last time I checked he is on the roster. It's really simple logistics.

It's insane how many props the (Comcast owned) media gives DB for being able to acquire so many picks in a below average draft for top talent. Maybe there was a reason everyone was trying to trade you 2025 draft picks?

The Flyers selected 9 players in a draft considered weak in high end talent and only have 5 picks in 2026, a projected much stronger draft.

This is what happens when an inexperienced GM get's taken advantage of. Not saying he made horrible picks but the 2024 and 2026 are considered much stronger draft classes but this was his all in year. Also, even with all of those picks, he was unable to trade up like everyone predicted he would into the top 3 or so.

Friedman -“One thing we’re seeing is for rentals it’s a 1st rounder. Draft guys aren’t crazy about this draft so that’s why teams are willing to do it.”

Martone is the only player that would play for the big club realistically in the next 2 years. The rest of the draft class is 3+ years away from being 3rd/4th line role players.

Big frame, needs work skating was the theme of this draft.
- Flyers_01

Who predicted that they were gonna move into the top 3? That rarely happens in today's NHL. Teams hold onto their top 5 picks like they are their first born.

What are the other mistakes? You only mentioned 1.
- WhiskeyMan

K you asked for it… they state they are rebuilding. They state they need high end talent. State they need a 1c and 1d

1) tries like hell to resign ej
2) gives out term to players like rp Seeler
3) doesn’t trade players like laughts Seeler rp nd etc. etc etc trying to make playoffs
4) signs turning 29 year good not great player (tk) to 8 year extension instead of trading for a haul
5) in a deep d draft (6 top dmen projected) passes on buium for a reach in Luchenko
6) passes on hagens

Do I need to go further. Their actions DIRECTLY go againgst what they said rebuild need high end talent need 1c/1d
5 first picks in last 2 years and came away what almost every pundit describes as 1 top end blue chip player. And to boot he’s a winger.

That’s a colossal failure for what they stated they were trying to do. It’s clear the plan now. It never was a rebuild it was bs the fan base and once they landed mm the idea came to be in 26 with cap room buy players.

We all know this will not work

you are welcome to your opinion
- wcorvette

It’s not an opinion. It’s a fact