You seem to confuse negativity with reality.
- furio16

I forgot that zegras and devorak suck.

I forgot that after this season that getting Hayes, Laughton and Atkinson off the payroll is a bad thing.

I forgot that not having ND and zamula on the team is not a good situation.

Having 1 year left on the Ellis and RR contracts after this season sucks.

The positive posts? No offense but that’s a joke right? I mean how many comments was page getting a day? 3? lol
- Stayin alive

They were still positive and the people who were still posting didn't feel like the needed to insult people when responding to posts.

I forgot that zegras and devorak suck.

I forgot that after this season that getting Hayes, Laughton and Atkinson off the payroll is a bad thing.

I forgot that not having ND and zamula on the team is not a good situation.

Having 1 year left on the Ellis and RR contracts after this season sucks.
- WhiskeyMan

Who said they suck? This is you making things up. Both have been in the 30-point range the last 2 years. Imagine touting Dvorak as this great signing. Had to overpay by millions to acquire his services.

Who said that is a bad thing? Once again you making things up. They will surely spend that money on more middling players. Until proven otherwise.

Not sure what you mean with ND and Zamula.

2 years left on those contracts isn’t exactly a good thing.

Flyers Santa sacks will be available in 4/5 months.

They were still positive and the people who were still posting didn't feel like the needed to insult people when responding to posts.
- WhiskeyMan

Guess the truth hurts fans like yourself.

Martone going to college was the no-brainer easy decision to make. Will Flyers sign him at end of season and burn a year of his ELC? Doesn't the kid have to earn it first?

Another season or two and I think the Flyers are loaded for bear for a playoff run. Probably as a wildcard.

I forgot that zegras and devorak suck.

I forgot that after this season that getting Hayes, Laughton and Atkinson off the payroll is a bad thing.

I forgot that not having ND and zamula on the team is not a good situation.

Having 1 year left on the Ellis and RR contracts after this season sucks.
- WhiskeyMan

before the mass banning the conversation was consistently about DB doing to do this wrong or that wrong, sign an FA for picks but it appears DB has cleaned out the past players after evaluating their potential and stocked up the prospects. Would I love a top 2 pick, would I have preferred a full tank, yea but with the cards DB was dealt he has done a good job.

Martone going to college was the no-brainer easy decision to make. Will Flyers sign him at end of season and burn a year of his ELC? Doesn't the kid have to earn it first?

Another season or two and I think the Flyers are loaded for bear for a playoff run. Probably as a wildcard.
- StepfordSam

Personally, I'm excited about the future of the club, finally!! There's some excellent young kids in our system now, it's been a long time since I could say that. Are there any 150 point superstars, no, but that doesn't mean all is lost. Florida just won the cup with two players who had more than 57 points.

As for Martone, he will be served very well going to college. His skating will improve immensely going there, he'll be a much better player following a year in college.

Who said they suck? This is you making things up. Both have been in the 30-point range the last 2 years. Imagine touting Dvorak as this great signing. Had to overpay by millions to acquire his services.

Who said that is a bad thing? Once again you making things up. They will surely spend that money on more middling players. Until proven otherwise.

Not sure what you mean with ND and Zamula.

2 years left on those contracts isn’t exactly a good thing.

Flyers Santa sacks will be available in 4/5 months.
- furio16

Who cares about them overpaying Dvorak? He's a stop gap signing for this season and perhaps they flip him for a second or even a first round pick (if he plays well enough) at the deadline. This is a season to evaluate their young players and see what they have. If Zegras blows chunks they can move on from him (they only gave up Poehling to get him). I don't have a problem with what they are doing currently. They will have more first round picks (Toronto's pick) in the next draft and they will have lots of cap space next off season with a much deeper UFA pool available. Now, will big name free agents want to come to Philly? Who knows, but I suppose Tocchet gives them a better chance since he seems to be the kind of coach that players want to play for. Time will tell, but you just want to crap on everything that they do. Chuckles set this team back 5 years.

before the mass banning the conversation was consistently about DB doing to do this wrong or that wrong, sign an FA for picks but it appears DB has cleaned out the past players after evaluating their potential and stocked up the prospects. Would I love a top 2 pick, would I have preferred a full tank, yea but with the cards DB was dealt he has done a good job.
- wcorvette

Done a good job how? They are in the same spot since he took over. An average farm system with 1 blue chip prospect. Rest bottom end of lineup potential. Capped out. There were no free agents to sign. They signed bottom end players for short term deals. Made a good low risk trade that could pan out. If it doesn’t there is really nothing lost.

The cards he was dealt he has a lot to with said cards.

They are years away if 90% of everything goes their way. Seeing shades of Kevin Adams. Flyers fans seem to not consider other teams when projecting where the Flyers end up.

Personally, I'm excited about the future of the club, finally!! There's some excellent young kids in our system now, it's been a long time since I could say that. Are there any 150 point superstars, no, but that doesn't mean all is lost. Florida just won the cup with two players who had more than 57 points.

As for Martone, he will be served very well going to college. His skating will improve immensely going there, he'll be a much better player following a year in college.


- Dave21Brown

There is one.

Fyers can easily be the next Florida.

Personally, I'm excited about the future of the club, finally!! There's some excellent young kids in our system now, it's been a long time since I could say that. Are there any 150 point superstars, no, but that doesn't mean all is lost. Florida just won the cup with two players who had more than 57 points.

As for Martone, he will be served very well going to college. His skating will improve immensely going there, he'll be a much better player following a year in college.


- Dave21Brown

It wasn’t too many years ago that the Flyers farm system was rated top 10. Remember Frost. Allison…Ratcliffe etc etc. prospects are just that prospects and you just don’t know unless you get elite ones

It wasn’t too many years ago that the Flyers farm system was rated top 10. Remember Frost. Allison…Ratcliffe etc etc. prospects are just that prospects and you just don’t know unless you get elite ones
- hfc355

Remember the cup caliber defense that was set for years to come.
Provorov- Ghost. Sanheim - Myers. Morin- Haag.

Nesbitt the next Ratcliff?

There is one.

Fyers can easily be the next Florida.
- furio16

I get that it's easy to be disillusioned at this point, the organization hasn't given fans a lot to look forward to over the past many years. But I'd rather be positive about the good things happening right now, and there are good things happening, than dwell on the past.

I also understand that building isn't a quick process, they aren't coming out of this quickly, but for me there is reason to be optimistic.

It wasn’t too many years ago that the Flyers farm system was rated top 10. Remember Frost. Allison…Ratcliffe etc etc. prospects are just that prospects and you just don’t know unless you get elite ones
- hfc355

You've just gotta keep trying until you get it right, and there's no guarantee they will, but you keep trying. Florida won 11 years after drafting Barkov second overall, and they had numerous good first round picks around that time frame. Washington won 14 years after drafting the greatest goal scorer in NHL history.

Just keep building, brick by brick, until you find success.

I forgot that zegras and devorak suck.

I forgot that after this season that getting Hayes, Laughton and Atkinson off the payroll is a bad thing.

I forgot that not having ND and zamula on the team is not a good situation.

Having 1 year left on the Ellis and RR contracts after this season sucks.
- WhiskeyMan

I agree they are inching towards respectability. To me it comes down the drafted players in the last few years. I am more optimistic then I have been in the last 5-6 years for sure….

before the mass banning the conversation was consistently about DB doing to do this wrong or that wrong, sign an FA for picks but it appears DB has cleaned out the past players after evaluating their potential and stocked up the prospects. Would I love a top 2 pick, would I have preferred a full tank, yea but with the cards DB was dealt he has done a good job.
- wcorvette

A couple of missteps…but to me a GM can really set his success up by being solid in the draft. I absolutely loved this past draft….after being slightly underwhelmed by his previous two. When I say underwhelmed I’m still happy with Michkov and Luchanko. I also think Bonk can become a serviceable top 4 guy.

It wasn’t too many years ago that the Flyers farm system was rated top 10. Remember Frost. Allison…Ratcliffe etc etc. prospects are just that prospects and you just don’t know unless you get elite ones
- hfc355

Exactly ….the development of these guys as high end prospects will decide how good a job that DB and the new regime will have done. There appears to be quite a few to work with.

I get that it's easy to be disillusioned at this point, the organization hasn't given fans a lot to look forward to over the past many years. But I'd rather be positive about the good things happening right now, and there are good things happening, than dwell on the past.

I also understand that building isn't a quick process, they aren't coming out of this quickly, but for me there is reason to be optimistic.
- Dave21Brown

Not disillusioned in any way. Building isn’t a quick process (what exactly are they building? A mediocre team?), and they are taking short cuts that have been proven not to work. As I said before I don’t get the optimism. They do not know how to build brick by brick.

What year you see them being cup contenders? Absolutely enjoy the Florida mentions now when it comes to the Flyers.

It wasn’t too many years ago that the Flyers farm system was rated top 10. Remember Frost. Allison…Ratcliffe etc etc. prospects are just that prospects and you just don’t know unless you get elite ones
- hfc355

The Flyers were rated in the top 10 for quantity, not quality. Quite a few have gone on to play NHL games for the Flyers so they were right. Also, I think everyone agrees the Flyers player development is/was near the bottom of the league.

That's where people miss the mark. The depth players have to play above their abilities because the Flyers lack the high end talent.

Luchanko wasn't drafted because of his high ceiling, he was drafted for his bench press and skating. He'll make a good defensively responsible 2nd/3rd line center but that's what his ceiling is projected to be to everyone except the Flyers. I'm not sure if we'll know how much input Torts had into that pick but Torts wanted try hard players vs high ceiling players.

If Luchanko plays 10+ years on 2nd/3rd lines and Buium plays 10+ years as a 1D (as he's projected to) that was a horrible, horrible draft pick. That is not a knock on Luchanko, he was just overdrafted.

I'm sure the Comcast media will once again praise the Flyers and luchanko going into the season. With Zeev turning professional, i don't see how the Flyers can afford for Luchanko to not make the team this year.

It was embarrassing as a fan that they tried to force him onto the roster and into the lineup last year. Very mickey mouse with the way that was handled (by the team and media fawning) before the season and during the first 10 games all the while York sitting in the minors the first few games and the Flyers playing short handed rather than call him up.

The Flyers need that 1C, 1D. The Flyers have ZERO cornerstones that allow everyone else to slot better down the lineup.

It's ridiculous that people still are optimistic about the Flyers drafting the next mid lineup player and think it will change anything.

Personally, I'm excited about the future of the club, finally!! There's some excellent young kids in our system now, it's been a long time since I could say that. Are there any 150 point superstars, no, but that doesn't mean all is lost. Florida just won the cup with two players who had more than 57 points.

As for Martone, he will be served very well going to college. His skating will improve immensely going there, he'll be a much better player following a year in college.


- Dave21Brown

That's a little disengenuous. Barkov, Reinhart and Tchatchuk each avged over ppg during the season. Marchand has been around that level for some years now, but played on a poopty/rebuilding BOS team this year and then had some adjustment pangs in FL initially. He reverted to his big game self as playoffs went on. So, you really have 4 players who are ppg types, and then a bunch in 50+ point pace types.

More tellingly, look at the sheer number of high draft picks in that roster. Barkov, Bennett, Reinhart, Ekblad, Jones are top 5 picks, Tchatchuk is just outside it. Look how much each of them contributed in playoffs. The roster is brimming with top end talent. Maybe not Kucherov level talent but still top end.

Then you have a HOF goalie.

I don't see the similarities frankly. If all goes well, we are likely to plateau out at Det level + Michkov. The problem with Det is they never picked high enough when they rebuilt, and so they are stuck with a lot of good but not very good players.

The odds are against us, and when you go look at the nature of the franchise, the odds are against us again. So, we have exponentially low odds.

RIP Ozzy

A true f’n legend.

I'm not sure the "on-ice" product is going to be much better this season, but here's to hoping. What I am excited about is the direction of the franchise, which is building through the draft, there's a lot of be excited about internally with some of these good young players within the system now.
- Dave21Brown

A typical scouting report for anyone the Flyers draft ends with "needs to work on skating". Should be a very exciting team to watch

RIP Ozzy

A true f’n legend.
- landros 2

Glad Ozzy was able to do that last goodbye concert a couple weeks ago. Went out on his terms. RIP Legend.

A typical scouting report for anyone the Flyers draft ends with "needs to work on skating". Should be a very exciting team to watch
- mr4tno

This kind of irks me too. They always seem to draft skating projects that they somehow think are going to become speed demons. They needed to get bigger and they certainly accomplished that in this draft, but ya gotta have speed in today's game too.

I forgot that zegras and devorak suck.

I forgot that after this season that getting Hayes, Laughton and Atkinson off the payroll is a bad thing.

I forgot that not having ND and zamula on the team is not a good situation.

Having 1 year left on the Ellis and RR contracts after this season sucks.
- WhiskeyMan

Nd and zamula will be on team. And the 32-40 mil in cap space will be spent on overpay to aging free agents that are paid way out of their production to team. Also mm extension coming after next season. That’s gotta be planned for. They might add 3-4 players that are decent. Again no cup path. Very exciting times. They may push for a playoff spot in a few years. Can’t wait