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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Friday @ 2:15 AM ET
Trading for Byram makes no sense - Especially for the sole purpose to appease QH. If that was the case they wouldve asked Quinns advice on which coach to hire. Plus JR mentioned something along of lines of trading one of our D's for a forward as its a position of excess/strength.

I doubt there's any validity to this rumour.

- Brooks_Light

Hughes for Byram/Tuch/Paterka/1st/2nd

Debrusk EP Garland
Paterka Tuch Hog
Joshua Chytil Karlsson
DOC Bleuger Sherwood

Byram Hronek
MP Myers
Forbort Mancini
EP Willander

Demko
Lankinen
Silovs

Abby shuffle for F with a D going down til a decision on Silovs.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Friday @ 11:22 AM ET
Hughes for Byram/Tuch/Paterka/1st/2nd

Debrusk EP Garland
Paterka Tuch Hog
Joshua Chytil Karlsson
DOC Bleuger Sherwood

Byram Hronek
MP Myers
Forbort Mancini
EP Willander

Demko
Lankinen
Silovs

Abby shuffle for F with a D going down til a decision on Silovs.

- Nighthawk


I don't know why you guys keep doing this - can't see MGMT moving him EVER.

It would be the single dumbest move in the history of this franchise (and that's saying a lot considering we had to suffer thru Torts, Benning, Green ++++ ETC)

No return would ever replace what he brings and I really can't see an Aqualini agreeing to trade him BCUS it would signal a full blown rebuild - and we all know based on the last 10+ years that it aint happening.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Friday @ 11:47 AM ET
I don't know why you guys keep doing this - can't see MGMT moving him EVER.

It would be the single dumbest move in the history of this franchise (and that's saying a lot considering we had to suffer thru Torts, Benning, Green ++++ ETC)

No return would ever replace what he brings and I really can't see an Aqualini agreeing to trade him BCUS it would signal a full blown rebuild - and we all know based on the last 10+ years that it aint happening.

- Brooks_Light

You are right, they won't move him. He will move himself for free.
York Newbury
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.11.2023

Friday @ 12:04 PM ET
I don't know why you guys keep doing this - can't see MGMT moving him EVER.

It would be the single dumbest move in the history of this franchise (and that's saying a lot considering we had to suffer thru Torts, Benning, Green ++++ ETC)

No return would ever replace what he brings and I really can't see an Aqualini agreeing to trade him BCUS it would signal a full blown rebuild - and we all know based on the last 10+ years that it aint happening.

- Brooks_Light


If he were signed to an 8 year deal, sure you never trade him. But he has two years left, and there's reasonable doubt that he may want to leave this dumpster of an organization to play with his brothers.

If he doesn't want to re-sign here, then letting him walk for nada would be the "single dumbest move in the history of this franchise". Better to trade him if he signals he doesn't want to be here than waiting for him to move on.his own for nothing.

Also, I don't agree it would be a full rebuild at that point. Not that I like Nighty's proposal, but I think there are ways the team could be competitive without Hughes.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Friday @ 12:27 PM ET
You are right, they won't move him. He will move himself for free.
- manvanfan


Sounds like a very Quinn Hughes thing to do

I'm sure he'll be on the first plane outta here. Very captain like behavior.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Friday @ 1:00 PM ET
If he were signed to an 8 year deal, sure you never trade him. But he has two years left, and there's reasonable doubt that he may want to leave this dumpster of an organization to play with his brothers.

If he doesn't want to re-sign here, then letting him walk for nada would be the "single dumbest move in the history of this franchise". Better to trade him if he signals he doesn't want to be here than waiting for him to move on.his own for nothing.

Also, I don't agree it would be a full rebuild at that point. Not that I like Nighty's proposal, but I think there are ways the team could be competitive without Hughes.

- York Newbury


I mean its all well and fine for fair-weather "fans" to think that this is a legit excuse - but do the players? I doubt it. "Dumpster fire" gets thrown around a little too liberally around these parts.

Just bcus JR said he'd like to play with his brothers at some point doesn't make it gospel nor does it mean it's going to be feasible/possible to actually pull off. A Pipe dream at this point.

Of course if he says I'm not resigning - then absolutely trade him - but I think that's a LONG SHOT at this point - especially for fans to start preaching as though it's 100% gonna happen - ridiculous.

And you can disagree all you want - trading Hughes would be the definition of rebuild. And I just cant imagine for a second Aquaman would ok that.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver Island BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Friday @ 1:38 PM ET
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York Newbury
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.11.2023

Friday @ 1:59 PM ET
I mean its all well and fine for fair-weather "fans" to think that this is a legit excuse - but do the players? I doubt it. "Dumpster fire" gets thrown around a little too liberally around these parts.

Just bcus JR said he'd like to play with his brothers at some point doesn't make it gospel nor does it mean it's going to be feasible/possible to actually pull off. A Pipe dream at this point.

Of course if he says I'm not resigning - then absolutely trade him - but I think that's a LONG SHOT at this point - especially for fans to start preaching as though it's 100% gonna happen - ridiculous.

And you can disagree all you want - trading Hughes would be the definition of rebuild. And I just cant imagine for a second Aquaman would ok that.

- Brooks_Light


One of the reasons Tocc left was because the Canucks don't have (and have dragged their feet getting) a practice rink. One of the reasons players don't want to play in/exercise their NTC for Buffalo is because it's a poorly run organization. Same thing with Arizona the last couple years. So ya, players add that in when they're weighing their options, for sure.

And the feasibility of Quinn leaving is super simple. He just doesn't sign another contract with the Canucks. Then, in two years, he signs there. Not a crazy scenario. Just look at Tavares leaving the Islanders to sign with the Leafs.

In my opinion, this year is make or break. If the Canucks suck again, and the spiral continues, do you really think Hughes is going to waste his prime by signing here again? Especially if he's a year away from playing with his brothers on a playoff team? It's not 100% he's leaving, but it's not 100% he's staying. The odds will vary drastically based on the forthcoming season.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver Island BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Friday @ 2:07 PM ET
One of the reasons Tocc left was because the Canucks don't have (and have dragged their feet getting) a practice rink. One of the reasons players don't want to play in/exercise their NTC for Buffalo is because it's a poorly run organization. Same thing with Arizona the last couple years. So ya, players add that in when they're weighing their options, for sure.

And the feasibility of Quinn leaving is super simple. He just doesn't sign another contract with the Canucks. Then, in two years, he signs there. Not a crazy scenario. Just look at Tavares leaving the Islanders to sign with the Leafs.

In my opinion, this year is make or break. If the Canucks suck again, and the spiral continues, do you really think Hughes is going to waste his prime by signing here again? Especially if he's a year away from playing with his brothers on a playoff team? It's not 100% he's leaving, but it's not 100% he's staying. The odds will vary drastically based on the forthcoming season.

- York Newbury

Next season will be his 7th already, time flies.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Friday @ 2:12 PM ET
I mean its all well and fine for fair-weather "fans" to think that this is a legit excuse - but do the players? I doubt it. "Dumpster fire" gets thrown around a little too liberally around these parts.

Just bcus JR said he'd like to play with his brothers at some point doesn't make it gospel nor does it mean it's going to be feasible/possible to actually pull off. A Pipe dream at this point.

Of course if he says I'm not resigning - then absolutely trade him - but I think that's a LONG SHOT at this point - especially for fans to start preaching as though it's 100% gonna happen - ridiculous.

And you can disagree all you want - trading Hughes would be the definition of rebuild. And I just cant imagine for a second Aquaman would ok that.

- Brooks_Light

Jerseys a poophole, maybe the brothers come to van, they were canuck fans watching Quinn and they probably still are.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Friday @ 2:21 PM ET
Next season will be his 7th already, time flies.
- Pacificgem

That OEL/Garland trade cost the Canucks so badly. What did we hear today that the Canucks are ready to start extension talks with Garland because he's good for the culture.

I'm really starting to hate this team haha
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Friday @ 2:24 PM ET
Halford and Brough R.D. says that "Hughes wants to see improvement before he signs long term"

It's really hard to improve unless someone hands you something for nothing. Considering the Canucks have wasted prospects over the past few years again. The pipeline has little that's going to improve the team.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Friday @ 2:47 PM ET
Sounds like a very Quinn Hughes thing to do

I'm sure he'll be on the first plane outta here. Very captain like behavior.

- Brooks_Light

So many Canucks fans are so damaged they just assume the worst will always happen even when all evidence points to the opposite.

It's such a waste of time to discuss trading the best player in franchise history in his prime
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Friday @ 2:56 PM ET
So many Canucks fans are so damaged they just assume the worst will always happen even when all evidence points to the opposite.

It's such a waste of time to discuss trading the best player in franchise history in his prime

- NorthNuck

Management basically coming out and saying if we don't improve then QH is going to leave.

That was evidence that QH is staying for life?

Rumours of Canucks interest in Byram as insurance if Hughes leaves are just made up stories for clickbait also.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Friday @ 3:00 PM ET
One of the reasons Tocc left was because the Canucks don't have (and have dragged their feet getting) a practice rink. One of the reasons players don't want to play in/exercise their NTC for Buffalo is because it's a poorly run organization. Same thing with Arizona the last couple years. So ya, players add that in when they're weighing their options, for sure.

And the feasibility of Quinn leaving is super simple. He just doesn't sign another contract with the Canucks. Then, in two years, he signs there. Not a crazy scenario. Just look at Tavares leaving the Islanders to sign with the Leafs.

In my opinion, this year is make or break. If the Canucks suck again, and the spiral continues, do you really think Hughes is going to waste his prime by signing here again? Especially if he's a year away from playing with his brothers on a playoff team? It's not 100% he's leaving, but it's not 100% he's staying. The odds will vary drastically based on the forthcoming season.

- York Newbury

He is far more likely to play with tkachuk in Ottawa or Norris in buffalo. Those 3 are extremely close. The NJ bs is getting ridiculous
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Friday @ 3:06 PM ET
He is far more likely to play with tkachuk in Ottawa or Norris in buffalo. Those 3 are extremely close. The NJ bs is getting ridiculous
- CanuckDon

Lol someone is listening to some radio shows, I should specify Canucks central
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Friday @ 3:30 PM ET
I mean its all well and fine for fair-weather "fans" to think that this is a legit excuse - but do the players? I doubt it. "Dumpster fire" gets thrown around a little too liberally around these parts.

Just bcus JR said he'd like to play with his brothers at some point doesn't make it gospel nor does it mean it's going to be feasible/possible to actually pull off. A Pipe dream at this point.

Of course if he says I'm not resigning - then absolutely trade him - but I think that's a LONG SHOT at this point - especially for fans to start preaching as though it's 100% gonna happen - ridiculous.

And you can disagree all you want - trading Hughes would be the definition of rebuild. And I just cant imagine for a second Aquaman would ok that.

- Brooks_Light

I hope we will never hear that he won't resign in Vancouver. If it does leak, there goes some value. If he wants out, he will tell management " I'm Done" and is traded hopefully with no leaks.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver Island BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Friday @ 3:38 PM ET
Cam Robinson@Hockey_Robinson28m

I'm told to watch out for CBJ over the next 5-7 days.

They could package both first rounders to move up to chase a faller in the top 10. They could package both first rounders for a move-the-needle roster player.

They are 7/11 open for business.

Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver Island BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Friday @ 3:41 PM ET
From Drance at "The Athletic".

Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Friday @ 3:43 PM ET
One of the reasons Tocc left was because the Canucks don't have (and have dragged their feet getting) a practice rink. One of the reasons players don't want to play in/exercise their NTC for Buffalo is because it's a poorly run organization. Same thing with Arizona the last couple years. So ya, players add that in when they're weighing their options, for sure.

And the feasibility of Quinn leaving is super simple. He just doesn't sign another contract with the Canucks. Then, in two years, he signs there. Not a crazy scenario. Just look at Tavares leaving the Islanders to sign with the Leafs.

In my opinion, this year is make or break. If the Canucks suck again, and the spiral continues, do you really think Hughes is going to waste his prime by signing here again? Especially if he's a year away from playing with his brothers on a playoff team? It's not 100% he's leaving, but it's not 100% he's staying. The odds will vary drastically based on the forthcoming season.

- York Newbury


Lots of valid points. - practice arena is major point of contention for sure. But it really didnt seem to be much of an issue until recently and whats so horrible about practicing at Rogers?
I certainly wouldnt say that the lack of a dedicated rink and Tocc leaving is the definition of a "dumpster fire".

Honestly - This org has made some huge moves since 21' that suggest otherwise. They completely revamped the MGMT team and added positions. Benning was doing 3 jobs at once - and terrible at all.

Hiring a dedicated Pres of ops. with Cup experience - Alvin won 3 cups over his time with Pitts. Plus the coaching staff overhaul with actual winning experience and moving from Utica to Abby.

I think you're right that this year is a make or break but i'm also expecting the team to take a step forward and then hopefully add more pieces next year that get us in stronger position of contention.


Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver Island BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Friday @ 3:45 PM ET
That OEL/Garland trade cost the Canucks so badly. What did we hear today that the Canucks are ready to start extension talks with Garland because he's good for the culture.

I'm really starting to hate this team haha

- manvanfan

This is just the history of this organization.

Of the teams I follow, I'm excited about what's going on in Philly and I'm excited about the potential additions to the young rosters in Utah and Columbus. I'm on the Utah page of HF here and there.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Friday @ 3:47 PM ET
From Drance at "The Athletic".


- Pacificgem

I'm way more pumped about not spending on something that isn't right.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver Island BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Friday @ 3:49 PM ET
I'm way more pumped about not spending on something that isn't right.
- manvanfan


"Dhali on talk with agents

Vancouver is just not a destination"

Hal Bro



Is what it is!!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Friday @ 3:54 PM ET
"Dhali on talk with agents

Vancouver is just not a destination"

Hal Bro



Is what it is!!

- Pacificgem

Draft and develop. Abby is looking great. Hopefully that helps a couple realize the step that needs to be taken to be an everyday NHLer.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Friday @ 3:55 PM ET
Cam Robinson@Hockey_Robinson28m

I'm told to watch out for CBJ over the next 5-7 days.

They could package both first rounders to move up to chase a faller in the top 10. They could package both first rounders for a move-the-needle roster player.

They are 7/11 open for business.


- Pacificgem


If They wanna move up from 20th to our spot at 15 and select back to back that would interesting.

I wonder what the cost would realistically be?

Taking Cole Sillenger off their hands would be amazing
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