Definitely an outsider, but with the turmoil in Vancouver and needed change in Toronto, could see Pettersson moved for one of the Core Four. Change in scenery would help all.
- Popsghostly

Hard pass. I'd take them all over Pettersson. He can't even handle a regular season, let alone the playoffs.

Apparently marner was offered 8 x $13.5m.
According to dregs.

Bye marner.
- Fakepartofme

Fuk him! That's some greedy poop right there if true.

Nylander for Pettersson .
make the same coin for same amount of time.
- mr.robot

Shame about that NMC though...

Marner leaving will be beneficial to the culture in the locker room. His lack of character or accountability and his “we don’t care what people think” attitude are detrimental to team dynamics.

Trading Matthews would require a #1 C in return, otherwise, forget it.

Dumping Rielly would be a positive, tough to trade and get value, maybe Seattle for Oleksiak.

It’s two years post Dubas. Treliving has already done well to build the D and now he has the opportunity to turn the page and reshape the offense.

Marner leaving will be beneficial to the culture in the locker room. His lack of character or accountability and his “we don’t care what people think” attitude are detrimental to team dynamics.

Trading Matthews would require a #1 C in return, otherwise, forget it.

Dumping Rielly would be a positive, tough to trade and get value, maybe Seattle for Oleksiak.

It’s two years post Dubas. Treliving has already done well to build the D and now he has the opportunity to turn the page and reshape the offense.
- Strider

if one "rotten apple" is affecting the rest of the group that much, then that means the team culture wasn't very strong to begin with, and it would need a lot more work than just one guy leaving imho.

if one "rotten apple" is affecting the rest of the group that much, then that means the team culture wasn't very strong to begin with, and it would need a lot more work than just one guy leaving imho.
- Pat1993

Not to mention that it is fvcking idiotic how Leafs fans have decided that Marner is the entire problem on this team, and ignored the consistently horrible playoff performance of the highest paid player in the league.

Not to mention that it is fvcking idiotic how Leafs fans have decided that Marner is the entire problem on this team, and ignored the consistently horrible playoff performance of the highest paid player in the league.
- Aetherial

gotta agree this seems to be quite an issue indeed lol

You trade his rights to a team that wants an early shot at getting him. And they can sign him for 8 years to spread out the AVV.
- .HOHO.

Do a sign and trade.
He'll get the extra year

Marner leaving will be beneficial to the culture in the locker room. His lack of character or accountability and his “we don’t care what people think” attitude are detrimental to team dynamics.

Trading Matthews would require a #1 C in return, otherwise, forget it.

Dumping Rielly would be a positive, tough to trade and get value, maybe Seattle for Oleksiak.

It’s two years post Dubas. Treliving has already done well to build the D and now he has the opportunity to turn the page and reshape the offense.
- Strider

How do you know anything about the culture in the locker room?

Nylander for Pettersson .
make the same coin for same amount of time.
- mr.robot

Ugh forget that.
Pettersson is useless

Ugh forget that.
Pettersson is useless
- Fakepartofme

a market like Toronto would be great for him, it's the change of scenery he needs...

if one "rotten apple" is affecting the rest of the group that much, then that means the team culture wasn't very strong to begin with, and it would need a lot more work than just one guy leaving imho.
- Pat1993

There are 3 players mentioned in my post. Marner gets the extra heat because he has no contract.

There are 3 players mentioned in my post. Marner gets the extra heat because he has no contract.
- Strider

you specifically mentioned Marner and the team culture

How do you know anything about the culture in the locker room?
- Fakepartofme

The results speak for themselves. The interviews speak for themselves.

Definitely an outsider, but with the turmoil in Vancouver and needed change in Toronto, could see Pettersson moved for one of the Core Four. Change in scenery would help all.
- Popsghostly

This idea has a lot of merit.

Sorry, but in what way is it clear that Matthews wants to win. There is zero evidence of that. He is every bit as horrible as Marner in the playoffs.
- Aetherial

His comment about "passengers" being on the team is clear evidence that he wants to win and is frustrated that others aren't pulling their weight.

Desire does not always translate to results though, unfortunately. But thinking that he doesn't give a (frank)? I don't buy it.

Hard pass. I'd take them all over Pettersson. He can't even handle a regular season, let alone the playoffs.
- systemtool

EP is sound defensively, isn't afraid to throw a hit, and has had at least one deep playoff run where he was PPG.

The Leafs need a 2C and he would fit the bill nicely.

There was a lot of drama in the Canucks dressing room. Perhaps a fresh start would give him new life?

His comment about "passengers" being on the team is clear evidence that he wants to win and is frustrated that others aren't pulling their weight.

Desire does not always translate to results though, unfortunately. But thinking that he doesn't give a (frank)? I don't buy it.
- mjones242

talking about passengers while you're also being a passenger as the team captain isn't a good look.

Not to mention that it is fvcking idiotic how Leafs fans have decided that Marner is the entire problem on this team, and ignored the consistently horrible playoff performance of the highest paid player in the league.
- Aetherial

Marner is not the entire problem. But he's UFA and the team needs to make a major decision.

Do you pay him 14M+ for 7/8 years? I think no.

talking about passengers while you're also being a passenger as the team captain isn't a good look.
- Pat1993

He effectively shutdown the other team's top line and, IIRC, lead the league in shot attempts during the playoffs.

He's clearly been battling an injury all season long and knows what the (frank) he's talking about.

Sit down, sir.

He effectively shutdown the other team's top line and, IIRC, lead the league in shot attempts during the playoffs.

He's clearly been battling an injury all season long and knows what the (frank) he's talking about.

Sit down, sir.
- mjones242

ok, sure

ok, sure

- Pat1993

MaThEwS wAs A pAsSeNgEr ToO! 🤡

Brutal


The end.
- Garnie

hey garnie

Not to mention that it is fvcking idiotic how Leafs fans have decided that Marner is the entire problem on this team, and ignored the consistently horrible playoff performance of the highest paid player in the league.
- Aetherial

He’s not the entire problem. His contract is up though

He’s not the entire problem. His contract is up though
- Chunga’s Revenge

This is what nobody seems to be able to wrap their head around.. Things need to change and he is the piece that can be changed