No idea, they can take different directions, but I don't believe they will try to blow it up, it is the business first of all and they have to fill the seats.
- alex.TML

I think the situation in Toronto is very similar to Montreal concerning fan attendance, it would take a lot for those markets to struggle selling tickets, despite having a decent roster on the ice or not.

I think the situation in Toronto is very similar to Montreal concerning fan attendance, it would take a lot for those markets to struggle selling tickets, despite having a decent roster on the ice or not.
- Pat1993

Agreed.
I feel it the same way.

Dumb question... how come the last thread listed for this team when using the short cuts at the top of the site is many months old? ( https://www.hockeybuzz.co.../team/Toronto-Maple-Leafs )

Hope im not being disrespectful to something, but you guys are one of the more popular and written about teams here... site error?

But how much of that is a product of being in Toronto, where the loser energy hangs over this city like a bad fart?
- gravyface

This may be true and it is the scariest part of this. Somehow, nobody can succeed here.

Matthews for Makar
Nylander for Konecny and Risto
Woll, Robertson for Middleton and Foligno
Rielly for Kadri
Sign Bennet

Matthews for Makar
Nylander for Konecny and Risto
Woll, Robertson for Middleton and Foligno

Sign Bennet
- Horsey Sauce

It is not a game simulator, does not work like this in real life.

Why even bother talking about which character guys, or 3rd or 4th liners they should overpay in free agency.

Nothing will change until Matthews and Marner (and probably Nylander and Rielly) are gone.

I’m just here to watch other team’s fans come in to hate.

Why even bother talking about which character guys, or 3rd or 4th liners they should overpay in free agency.

Nothing will change until Matthews and Marner (and probably Nylander and Rielly) are gone.
- Aetherial

They can't replace these players with free agency. The core players playing somewhere else, drafted by their teams, and there is not way to bring any of them here.
The core can be created only during the rebuild. I believe they will try to patch existing core and keep business running by making playoffs and bounced in the first round.

I’m just here to watch other team’s fans come in to hate.


- .HOHO.

I think Leafs fans hate their players much more than fans of other teams do.

Why even bother talking about which character guys, or 3rd or 4th liners they should overpay in free agency.

Nothing will change until Matthews and Marner (and probably Nylander and Rielly) are gone.
- Aetherial

All of those guys have NMC contracts. The question is whether they ask for a trade or not - there's no way they are moved otherwise.

Obviously Marner will go UFA - I can't see any way he re-signs here. He didn't sign last off-season for a reason - he wanted to keep his options open, so (frank) him and his 1 assist through games 4-7.

Rielly has always been miscast as a 1D and I think he is often overlooked as an Achilles Heel on this team. We're stuck with him, I think, because of that NMC and his reasonable-ish contract.

AM34 just became the captain and, I think, it's clear he wants to win. The question is if he can ever figure out the post-season offensive puzzle (1 goal in 4-7, not good). I don't think he will ask to be traded, so let's hope some new additions on his line can help provide him with more space to work his magic.

Having said all of that, I honestly feel like it's more than just the makeup of the roster - there is absolutely, unbearable crushing pressure in Toronto. Marchand said as much and I tend to agree with him. It doesn't matter who plays for this (frank)ing team, it is going to take a miracle for them ever go deep.

TL;DR: we're cursed.

I’m just here to watch other team’s fans come in to hate.


- .HOHO.

Reverse schadenfreude?

Dumb question... how come the last thread listed for this team when using the short cuts at the top of the site is many months old? ( https://www.hockeybuzz.co.../team/Toronto-Maple-Leafs )

Hope im not being disrespectful to something, but you guys are one of the more popular and written about teams here... site error?
- Guile

You bumhole!! How dare you ask this.

Dumb question... how come the last thread listed for this team when using the short cuts at the top of the site is many months old? ( https://www.hockeybuzz.co.../team/Toronto-Maple-Leafs )

Hope im not being disrespectful to something, but you guys are one of the more popular and written about teams here... site error?
- Guile

Ek has not updated the site to include any articles post-Mike Augello.

Florida was expected to win this series. I am less upset they lost and more with how they lost. If game 5 and 7 were competitive and had both been losses I would likely be ok.

I think anyone but a complete moron or troll can see that Marner wants to test free agency. He wants to be the center of attention and he wants to be the star of his team and in the process will probably get $14-15 mil. If he wanted to sign here he would have by now.

Tre has done a fabulous job with Goal and the D in his time so far.. We need to trust that he can do the same to the forward group.

He has pulled of trades that nobody saw coming (Carlo) to help the D.

The first thing that needs to happen is Shanny needs to go.. He has been a failure here went off the board and hired Dubas who crippled this team by handing out contracts rather than bridge deals and has incubated the coddling of the stars.

Ek has not updated the site to include any articles post-Mike Augello.
- mjones242

That sadly tracks

Dumb question... how come the last thread listed for this team when using the short cuts at the top of the site is many months old? ( https://www.hockeybuzz.co.../team/Toronto-Maple-Leafs )

Hope im not being disrespectful to something, but you guys are one of the more popular and written about teams here... site error?
- Guile

why don’t you go take a flying (frank) troll?🤦‍♂️🤬

Go Oilers!

Go Oilers!
- senstroll

Oilers vs Panthers in SCF.

why don’t you go take a flying (frank) troll?🤦‍♂️🤬
- Skalapy

I do hope this a trolling rage bait response, because I was asking in earnest.

New REALLY GOOD Leafs blog in my blog spot from Andrea called “ what has to happen next.”

Oilers vs Panthers in SCF.
- alex.TML

Panthers vs Star I think..

Panthers in 5
Stars in 5

Panthers over Stars in 6.

After the playoffs the Leafs will be the only team that took Florida to 7 games and we will be able to take some small solace in that.

Panthers vs Star I think..

Panthers in 5
Stars in 5

Panthers over Stars in 6.

After the playoffs the Leafs will be the only team that took Florida to 7 games and we will be able to take some small solace in that.
- Azuredoom

It will treat our wounds magically, can't wait it happens.
But I would not be surprised if you are right about it.
I should hate Panthers, like I was hating Boston some time ago, but I figured I don't for some reason. This fact is disturbing.

Matthews for Makar
Nylander for Konecny and Risto
Woll, Robertson for Middleton and Foligno
Rielly for Kadri
Sign Bennet
- Horsey Sauce

Voyons donc calisse

This isn't some magical curse or some other "fans fault" bullpoop excuse. Kids who grew up as the "best" player on their teams don't experience much of that "dig in and try hard" mentality because its always been easy for them.

A lot of us have been saying it for years...the team is filled with players that are too soft and are paid too much so can't add good players that are not too soft.

It's not overly complicated. Add hard-nosed players that have had to work their balls off to get to the big league WITH SKILL to this new "CORE" group and watch the difference.

Knies, Matthews, XXX
XXX, XXX, Nylander
Domi, Laughton, B.Tanev
Lorentz, XXX, Jeannot

McCabe, Tanev
OEL, XXX
Benoit, Carlo

Stoli
Woll (as a B/U only, for now, needs to find consistency)

6 players with a never quit attitude, after you sign FAs Tanev/Jeannot and you have the cap space plus Rielly, Marner and Tavares $ to do it.

If Marner really loved the city of Toronto and wanted to leave on a good note, he would allow a sign and trade so he can get his greedy mitts on 8yr deal and go fluff it on another team and Leafs could get assets back. It's the best win/win scenario.

Here's the player types I would try to find, (ignore age or Cap Hit, just player style):

Knies, Matthews, Brayden Point
Tom Wilson, Tage Thompson, Nylander
Domi, Laughton, B.Tanev
Lorentz, Gourde, Jeannot

McCabe, Tanev
OEL, Xhejai (Habs Guy)
Benoit, Carlo

Stoli

That team would not fold. Those players would not turtle. That's a team that can find some no quit attitudes in the playoffs.

And I said it yesterday, Leafs fans in general don't care about losing (seen enough of it), I bet most of us care more about "HOW" the Leafs lose...aka dry haired Marner yelling at the bench is the exact (frank)ing issue for me.