I hear that and agree. They came close to securing first overall, but they’ll get a really good player. I really want to see Briere get aggressive and use some of extra draft capital to move up with his second first rounder.
- Sublime55

That's my hope.

If the Flyers think Misa is the real deal, maybe give SJ a call. They already have their top two centers, perhaps they'd be receptive to some creative dealing. We have plenty of assets - picks and players - who might interest them.

My God, some of you are the biggest cry babies I've ever seen on here. Picking 6th overall is a fantastic opportunity for the organization, not only that, we have 8 picks in the top 50 selections this year. It's an amazing opportunity for growth for the team.

Building takes time, sure it'd be nice to get a generational player, but there isn't any this year, so you build one brick at a time. There's no timeline on building through the draft, it takes as long as it takes and the draft certainly isn't an exact science, or hit every time on players. There's always going to be misses, for every team, but you just keep doing it until you've got something.

There's some good young player in the system already, Brink is 23 and just had a good breakout year, Foerster is 23 and he's just had another 20+ goal season, Michkov, Bonk, Bjarnason, Luckanko, Berglund, and that list is going to grow significantly this draft.

This whole thing is a multi-year process, buckle up, because this is just the start of it.
- Dave21Brown

Where the hell in my statement am I being a cry baby? I said that tanking doesn't work for obvious reasons. My statement was NOT a negative comment directed at the Flyers (all those crybabies have been banned). I was just stating facts. Thanks again!

This is why the Flyers tanking is a waste of time. They will get screwed anyway. Just look at 2006. They finished last in the league by 30 points and ended up getting screwed out of the first pick. They ended up with JVR instead of Patrick Kane. Tanking doesn't work!! Oh, and what the hell was with that draft lottery format. You need freaking Einstein to figure out what the hell was going on! Just go back to the placards! Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

Yeah for real. How a team who ends up 10th worst gets to pick 1st is beyond me.

Yeah for real. How a team who ends up 10th worst gets to pick 1st is beyond me.
- Pelle31Forever

Did you have a problem with the Flyers jumping from 13 to 2 in 2017?

It is what it is.

Did you have a problem with the Flyers jumping from 13 to 2 in 2017?

It is what it is.
- BaronVonShiznit

Yes I did.

But I would'nt have minded if they moved instead to 3 or 4.

Where the hell in my statement am I being a cry baby? I said that tanking doesn't work for obvious reasons. My statement was NOT a negative comment directed at the Flyers (all those crybabies have been banned). I was just stating facts. Thanks again!
- Phillywhiteout

Tanking CLEARLY works, there's vast amounts of information supporting this. The problem is with people who think it's an all or nothing scenario, as in, if you don't get the 1st overall pick you're essentially wasted your time. That "in and of itself" is a ridiculous notion.

It's simply one tool, to acquire a good player. You still have to execute many other facets of building to be successful, and, you have to have a certain element of luck.

Draft lottery

I am in the corner they should have tanked and get high picks, while I understand the first rebuild from Hexy to CF made that more difficult to do.

I don't know a ton about the history of tanking teams and the success from tanking, I do know top picks lead to good results. Was there not changes to the lottery, at one point, maybe mid 90's to around 2011 or 12, only 3-4 teams could win the lottery and get the #1 pick. Then it changed again, 3 spots but more teams could win the spots, then finally back to 2 spots? Does seem tanking was easier prior and the Flyers were just shown that to be true last night. I am still a fan of picking top 5 to rebuild, just sharing.

I wasn't surprised to see the Flyers dropping to 6th because I expected the Flyers to get screwed again. Let's see who DB takes with the 1st pick and I hope the kid agrees to play for the Flyers, so we don't have to go through another Quitter Gauthier situation.

Agree…islanders and Utah didn’t tank….the rebuild was never going to bottom out as the Flyers refused to let it happen.
With that said the # 6 is not the end of the world….although it does suck. If you look at the last 10 years of the draft there are stars littered through out the 1rst rounds from top to bottom….Briere and his staff simply have to hit on some of these picks. For every Kyle Connor @17 there is a Nolan Patrick at # 2.
For Every Mathew Tkachuk @6 there is a Shane Wright at 4
For every Thomas Harley @18 there is a Cam York @14
For every Quinn Hughes @7 there is a there is an Alexander Nylander @8

So although I am disappointed we had the worst possible scenario it doesn’t mean that we are screwed, it just means Briere has to get this right….which was always going to be the case. Am I confident he can ? I’m not sure. His drafting results are still in the early stages of their development….so far there are a quite a few promising prospects….time will,tell
- landros 2

Wright will be fine. He had a good year last year and needs to build on his progress next year. He will be fine for his draft spot.

I wasn't surprised to see the Flyers dropping to 6th because I expected the Flyers to get screwed again. Let's see who DB takes with the 1st pick and I hope the kid agrees to play for the Flyers, so we don't have to go through another Quitter Gauthier situation.
- Thors-Hammer

I don't think the Flyers were screwed, nor do I remember when they were ever "screwed" at the lottery. In '22, they dropped one spot. But in '17, they leaped from 13 to 2. Yesterday, two spots. It stung a bit but it wasn't entirely unforeseen. They only had about a 15.4% chance of staying at 4 and over a 65% chance of dropping to 5-6.

My concern is whether they will try and draft for need and not the BPA. York over Caufield. Luchanko over Buium. Choices like those always leave me with a bit of anxiety. Thankfully we were in a position to wait for Mitch or else we might have let that opportunity slip by.

Although there is no guarantee another high pick won't walk, the odds are extremely small. Don't lose sleep over that.

I wasn't surprised to see the Flyers dropping to 6th because I expected the Flyers to get screwed again. Let's see who DB takes with the 1st pick and I hope the kid agrees to play for the Flyers, so we don't have to go through another Quitter Gauthier situation.
- Thors-Hammer

I wouldn't be surprised if Briere trades up. SJ is already shopping their pick. I think Chicago is looking to take the next step as well and probably wouldn't mind moving back for additional assets. I could see Utah moving back too.

Michkov is the only untouchable

That's my hope.

If the Flyers think Misa is the real deal, maybe give SJ a call. They already have their top two centers, perhaps they'd be receptive to some creative dealing. We have plenty of assets - picks and players - who might interest them.
- 77rams

Scott Wheeler says the Sharks have the top prospect pool. But they’re forward -heavy. They need a high end defenseman. Preferably a right shot. Flyers don’t have that. Would you part with Bonk?

Scott Wheeler says the Sharks have the top prospect pool. But they’re forward -heavy. They need a high end defenseman. Preferably a right shot. Flyers don’t have that. Would you part with Bonk?
- Minnyhock

If I graded Misa as a number one center? Without hesitation.

I wouldn't be surprised if Briere trades up. SJ is already shopping their pick. I think Chicago is looking to take the next step as well and probably wouldn't mind moving back for additional assets. I could see Utah moving back too.

Michkov is the only untouchable
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I think Utah, after making the name announcement, will want to make a big splash in FA and maybe in trades as well for immediate help. They want to be a contender ASAP and they have some really good young pieces already.

Honestly tho...I don't know if losing the assets really makes so much of a difference for the 4th to the 6th pick? I know there is a consensus tier that has been forming with those top 4 picks, but getting a Desnoyers or taking a huge swing on McQueen could end up being just as fruitful in the coming years.

With Schaefer and Martone being the best at their positions, I think they’ll both go in the top five, in whatever order. That leaves the one of the top four centers available.
Misa, Hagens, Frondell, and Desnoyers. Knowing that trades rarely happen in the top ten, take the one who is left, which also keeps us from McQueen and the back injury thing. Then, use the later picks or the second rounders to try to get back into the middle teens, if they have someone targeted there, where it is more likely to make a trade. Just a thought.

With Schaefer and Martone being the best at their positions, I think they’ll both go in the top five, in whatever order. That leaves the one of the top four centers available.
Misa, Hagens, Frondell, and Desnoyers. Knowing that trades rarely happen in the top ten, take the one who is left, which also keeps us from McQueen and the back injury thing. Then, use the later picks or the second rounders to try to get back into the middle teens, if they have someone targeted there, where it is more likely to make a trade. Just a thought.
- Laceemup88

Please, please...no more high draft picks with injury issues. I was against the Patrick pick for that very reason and we all saw how that turned out. Back problems with a kid that young is a serious red flag IMO.

Please, please...no more high draft picks with injury issues. I was against the Patrick pick for that very reason and we all saw how that turned out. Back problems with a kid that young is a serious red flag IMO.
- Phillywhiteout

Yeah, definitely not at #6.

Scott Wheeler says the Sharks have the top prospect pool. But they’re forward -heavy. They need a high end defenseman. Preferably a right shot. Flyers don’t have that. Would you part with Bonk?
- Minnyhock

Yes, I would, but I don’t think Bonk and picks gets it done.

We need defense, too, btw. For Misa I do it, but I’m not sure why the Sharks would. Other teams have more to offer other than just draft choices.

I’m fine if they can get that done. I’m fine if they take Desnoyers, Frodell, O’Brien or whomever is at 6 and trying to hit on 1 or 2 more with their next 6 picks. 3 guys who will start one day is huge. 2 with top 6 offense or top 4 defense is massive. We need that luck just like Washington recently rebuilt with.

Just don’t go off board. Don’t try to fit a need with like Mrtka. We need a lot.

Yes, I would, but I don’t think Bonk and picks gets it done.

We need defense, too, btw. For Misa I do it, but I’m not sure why the Sharks would. Other teams have more to offer other than just draft choices.

I’m fine if they can get that done. I’m fine if they take Desnoyers, Frodell, O’Brien or whomever is at 6 and trying to hit on 1 or 2 more with their next 6 picks. 3 guys who will start one day is huge. 2 with top 6 offense or top 4 defense is massive. We need that luck just like Washington recently rebuilt with.

Just don’t go off board. Don’t try to fit a need with like Mrtka. We need a lot.
- Hesh_

Agreed. I think the Flyers would offer Bonk to get the guy they want. But that doesn’t work for SJ.The Sharks need to filter in some proven roster defensemen to help their prospects.

Agreed. I think the Flyers would offer Bonk to get the guy they want. But that doesn’t work for SJ.The Sharks need to filter in some proven roster defensemen to help their prospects.
- Minnyhock

Sanhiem?

Sanhiem?
- meduser

I think they would have kept Jake Walman in that case. Same age and size and similar skill set. Sanheim has too much term imo. Their greatest need is a RHS. Probably looking for someone younger with some experience and proven reliability.

If Vegas fizzles out and Decide to re-tool, Eichel becomes available, are you interested?

did everyone leave this board

did everyone leave this board
- wcorvette

It seems that many of the negative commentators have either been banned or left. That eliminates a large portion of folks that posted here.


Oh, and this thread was locked for some reason. I dunno...

If Vegas fizzles out and Decide to re-tool, Eichel becomes available, are you interested?
- wcorvette

No - Does not fit the Flyers timeline. Just one year left on a $10 million contract.

I know there is very little posted on this board.
Was there ever any update on the Ryan Ellis contract situation?