I wasn't talking about the team as a whole, I was talking about Pettersson.
- NorthNuck

I get that, he gets a lot of hate, some of which I believe is of his own doing, however, I’m just pointing out that having one exceptionally good forward is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

Trading both Hughes and EP40 would definitely bring the individual skill level down but it could potentially bring the “team” depth & skill level up considerably. That’s my premise.

I get that, he gets a lot of hate, some of which I believe is of his own doing, however, I’m just pointing out that having one exceptionally good forward is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

Trading both Hughes and EP40 would definitely bring the individual skill level down but it could potentially bring the “team” depth & skill level up considerably. That’s my premise.
- Pacificgem

So retool #6?

How many Americans, Swedes, and Finns contributed? How do they compare, proportionally to their population on those teams/in the league? Once you have stats that actually describe something worthwhile, get back to us
- NorthNuck

So contributing on goals in the Stanley Cup finals isn't a worthwhile stat now?

Weak, sad, pathetic.

You can actually find your own backing stats like I did. Unless there aren't any. Get back to me when you've got a tangible counter. Hint, there isn't one.

So retool #6?
- dbot

The number is insignificant. Every year teams re-tool through drafting, developing, trading & free agency.

You keep doing it until you get it right. Right now, it isn’t right.

Free Bloated!!
Stop the tyranny!!

Free Bloated!!
Stop the tyranny!!
- Danny Bomber

I'm actually missing Booner. I've come to realize his role is both pivotal and exhausting.

I'm actually missing Booner. I've come to realize his role is both pivotal and exhausting.
- Load Management

Careful what you wish for.

I get that, he gets a lot of hate, some of which I believe is of his own doing, however, I’m just pointing out that having one exceptionally good forward is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

Trading both Hughes and EP40 would definitely bring the individual skill level down but it could potentially bring the “team” depth & skill level up considerably. That’s my premise.
- Pacificgem

This is a pure rebuild move. Aim for McKenna and go from there. Who knows how well it will work. Took Edmonton years. We have the 2nd best Dman in the world, and Petey(if he returns to form) a true #1 c. We either continue to build around them and try to compete, then rebuild if Hughes leaves. Or was say 'Screw it' and rebuild now. We all know Aqua will destroy our future for the next 2 years to try and compete with Hughes.

So contributing on goals in the Stanley Cup finals isn't a worthwhile stat now?

Weak, sad, pathetic.

You can actually find your own backing stats like I did. Unless there aren't any. Get back to me when you've got a tangible counter. Hint, there isn't one.
- Load Management

It's not worthwhile because it's incomplete. It's easy to cherry pick stats to prove any point you want if you don't care about the actual content. Here's one for you:

Pound for pound, Americans are contributing more in the cup finals so far.
Points per game by all Americans: 1.75 ppg
Points per game by all Canadians: 1.65 ppg

See how easy that is?

I get that, he gets a lot of hate, some of which I believe is of his own doing, however, I’m just pointing out that having one exceptionally good forward is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

Trading both Hughes and EP40 would definitely bring the individual skill level down but it could potentially bring the “team” depth & skill level up considerably. That’s my premise.
- Pacificgem

Yeah, I guess it's well established at this point that some of us think they can build on what exists on this team, and others want to tear it all down(again). I don't think our respective opinions are changing in this regard.

The number is insignificant. Every year teams re-tool through drafting, developing, trading & free agency.

You keep doing it until you get it right. Right now, it isn’t right.
- Pacificgem

Trading our Captain, a young Norris trophy winner and arguably the Canucks goat and calling it a routine retool is a wild take.

I'm actually missing Booner. I've come to realize his role is both pivotal and exhausting.
- Load Management

whered boomer go anyway?
I liked the dudes honesty and keeping others accountable, which seemed exhausting tbh.
Maybe I answered my own question…

It's not worthwhile because it's incomplete. It's easy to cherry pick stats to prove any point you want if you don't care about the actual content. Here's one for you:

Pound for pound, Americans are contributing more in the cup finals so far.
Points per game by all Americans: 1.75 ppg
Points per game by all Canadians: 1.65 ppg

See how easy that is?
- NorthNuck

Umm, you may wanna recheck your math or reword things.

You'll have to explain to me how including every goal scored in the finals is cherry picking. Should be an interesting yarn.

You know, I certainly don’t know what happened in the locker room, I have no idea if there were interference from Rutherford, Allvin or even Aquilini. Not privy to anything and I certainly don’t put any credence into reports from any social media sites that spew verbal diarrhea.

I liked Tocchet, I liked how he had systems, how he dealt with toxic media, and toxic negativity from all sides.
Just a statement that I am disappointed he moved on.

Now unfortunately I see you received a ban of 6 months for an absolutely stupid reason, it certainly wasn’t by me and I strongly disagree with whomever is indiscriminately banning posters.

You can respond with your hefty account.
- Makita

16 of 17.

16 of 17.
- Load Management

relentless.

16 of 17.
- Load Management

I was waiting for this

It's not worthwhile because it's incomplete. It's easy to cherry pick stats to prove any point you want if you don't care about the actual content. Here's one for you:

Pound for pound, Americans are contributing more in the cup finals so far.
Points per game by all Americans: 1.75 ppg
Points per game by all Canadians: 1.65 ppg

See how easy that is?
- NorthNuck

This game is intense, oh shoot, Podkolzin just gave it away at the blueline and Bennett scored. Where was I going with this?

Oh yeah, five goals now in this game, all scored by Canadians…check those numbers.

Yeah, I guess it's well established at this point that some of us think they can build on what exists on this team, and others want to tear it all down(again). I don't think our respective opinions are changing in this regard.
- NorthNuck

If Quinn Hughes would come out and say…”I’m committed to the Canucks, I wanna win here”…I would change my opinion. But he hasn’t commented on Rutherford saying he wants to play with his brothers.

Trading our Captain, a young Norris trophy winner and arguably the Canucks goat and calling it a routine retool is a wild take.
- dbot

I never said that’s a routine re-tool, only that teams do it every year. Obviously trading those two would be a massive tear down.

On that note, saw this on X.


Dreger said Canucks were pretty close to getting Josh Norris at the trade deadline.

Trade would have been for Chytil and a draft pick.

@sekeresandprice

This game is intense, oh shoot, Podkolzin just gave it away at the blueline and Bennett scored. Where was I going with this?

Oh yeah, five goals now in this game, all scored by Canadians…check those numbers.
- Pacificgem

Umm, you may wanna recheck your math or reword things.

You'll have to explain to me how including every goal scored in the finals is cherry picking. Should be an interesting yarn.
- Load Management

If you don't understand how PPG works I'm done debating stats with you

I never said that’s a routine re-tool, only that teams do it every year. Obviously trading those two would be a massive tear down.

On that note, saw this on X.


Dreger said Canucks were pretty close to getting Josh Norris at the trade deadline.

Trade would have been for Chytil and a draft pick.

@sekeresandprice
- Pacificgem

The Canucks will do whatever they can to keep Hughes. As they should. Trading him now is pure fan fiction.

If you don't understand how PPG works I'm done debating stats with you
- NorthNuck

Probably for the best.

Skinner done for the game.
Maybe the series?