Would you guys be willing to acquire Nylander?
- Nuckerwhatever

100 percent yes.

Pwtey for him straight up let's.go

Would you guys be willing to acquire Nylander?
- Nuckerwhatever

No.

It's been brought up a couple times by some of the more intelligent posters. 1 if you don't consider Myers Canadian. 2 if you do. While our minor league team that is doing well in the playoffs has over 10 on it's active roster. Funny how that works.
- Load Management

Last year the Canucks had 2. They took the team with the most IIRC (Edmonton) to game 7. Then Edmonton (the team with the most) lost to a team that had less than them.

Correlation doesn't equal causation. It's the same notion that Europeans couldn't win a cup, then European captains couldn't win a cup, etc. etc.

Unless you can provide sustainable proof that shows that teams with more Canadians win more often against teams with less, it's just a poorly constructed hypothesis. Happy to be wrong here, but you're not providing any proof.

Last year the Canucks had 2. They took the team with the most IIRC (Edmonton) to game 7. Then Edmonton (the team with the most) lost to a team that had less than them.

Correlation doesn't equal causation. It's the same notion that Europeans couldn't win a cup, then European captains couldn't win a cup, etc. etc.

Unless you can provide sustainable proof that shows that teams with more Canadians win more often against teams with less, it's just a poorly constructed hypothesis. Happy to be wrong here, but you're not providing any proof.
- NewYorkNuck

It's folklore, an old wives' tale, if you will, however, there's definitely some merit to having players who've dreamt of winning this thing for their entire lives, regardless of where they were born. I've played a lot of high caliber hockey in my life, I can honestly say there were only a handful of guys that weren't really passionate about winning, and it was usually the more talented guys because it came too easy for them.

Leafs fans are calling for major changes after another playoff defeat, Canucks fans after another season of missing the playoffs are calling for a bit of fine tuning.

Leafs fans are calling for major changes after another playoff defeat, Canucks fans after another season of missing the playoffs are calling for a bit of fine tuning.
- Nuckerwhatever

Nothing warms my heart more than the Leafs continual failures in the playoffs...it's truly a beautiful thing.

Nothing warms my heart more than the Leafs continual failures in the playoffs...it's truly a beautiful thing.
- LeftCoaster

When you build a team of highly skilled players and pay, without those players having any heart or physicality or situational awareness, you end up getting beat by a slightly less skilled team that has good players who have physicality, situational awareness and heart.

Listening to Friedman after the game, he said something about Nate Schmidt in a pre-season game making a play and was quickly told by some players, that we don't do that here.
100%buy-in on coaching philosophy, unlike Leafs and Canucks.

This was good for a laugh and it was taken from comments section at Leafs thread

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KRCuHGNpJtI

- NewYorkNuck

When you build a team of highly skilled players and pay, without those players having any heart or physicality or situational awareness, you end up getting beat by a slightly less skilled team that has good players who have physicality, situational awareness and heart.

Listening to Friedman after the game, he said something about Nate Schmidt in a pre-season game making a play and was quickly told by some players, that we don't do that here.
100%buy-in on coaching philosophy, unlike Leafs and Canucks.
- Nuckerwhatever

Last time the Arizona Coyotes were in a Conference Finals, 2011/12. Last time the Toronto Maple Leafs were in a Conference Finals, 2001/02.

Historically speaking, post expansion, the Leafs have arguably been the biggest joke of a franchise over that 55+ year span...and it brings joy to my heart.

Last year the Canucks had 2. They took the team with the most IIRC (Edmonton) to game 7. Then Edmonton (the team with the most) lost to a team that had less than them.

Correlation doesn't equal causation. It's the same notion that Europeans couldn't win a cup, then European captains couldn't win a cup, etc. etc.

Unless you can provide sustainable proof that shows that teams with more Canadians win more often against teams with less, it's just a poorly constructed hypothesis. Happy to be wrong here, but you're not providing any proof.
- NewYorkNuck

So they basically won 1 series. And lost to a team with more Canadians. You're not exactly providing anything to support your hypothesis either.

According to elite prospects the teams in the ECF, Florida has 8 rostered, Carolina has 11.

In the WCF, Edmonton 16, Dallas 12.

I'd argue, unlike the Canucks, every one of these teams are built to succeed in the playoffs. Winning more than 1 round in 5 seasons. Actually, the last time the Canucks won more than 1 round was 2020, they used 12 Canadians in the playoffs that season.

Not quite the poorly constructed hypothesis you're dismissing it as.

So they basically won 1 series. And lost to a team with more Canadians. You're not exactly providing anything to support your hypothesis either.

According to elite prospects the teams in the ECF, Florida has 8 rostered, Carolina has 11.

In the WCF, Edmonton 16, Dallas 12.

I'd argue, unlike the Canucks, every one of these teams are built to succeed in the playoffs. Winning more than 1 round in 5 seasons. Actually, the last time the Canucks won more than 1 round was 2020, they used 12 Canadians in the playoffs that season.

Not quite the poorly constructed hypothesis you're dismissing it as.
- Load Management

They won one series against Nashville who had 10 Canadians. Based on your hypothesis Nashville should have easily won against a lowly 2-Canadian team.

Last year Florida had 9 Canadians, and Edmonton played 18 Canadians in the playoffs. Edmonton should have smashed them!

And the year before when Florida went to the finals (and lost), they had 13 Canadians play in the playoffs. They won the cup with fewer Canadians! How could that possibly be?? Maybe it means you can have too many Canadians on the team???

They won one series against Nashville who had 10 Canadians. Based on your hypothesis Nashville should have easily won against a lowly 2-Canadian team.

Last year Florida had 9 Canadians, and Edmonton played 18 Canadians in the playoffs. Edmonton should have smashed them!

And the year before when Florida went to the finals (and lost), they had 13 Canadians play in the playoffs. They won the cup with fewer Canadians! How could that possibly be?? Maybe it means you can have too many Canadians on the team???
- NewYorkNuck

I think it proves pretty solidly that 2 Canadians aren't nearly enough to succeed in the playoffs. The numbers keep supporting it.

Please, no arguing on such a glorious day of Leaf misery, regret and loathing.

I think it proves pretty solidly that 2 Canadians aren't nearly enough to succeed in the playoffs. The numbers keep supporting it.
- Load Management

Correlation does not equal causation. If more Canadians = more playoff success, than a team with more Canadians than any other would do the best. They don't, obviously. Florida just knocked out Toronto, and they had like 16+ Canadians on their roster.

The Canucks are a massive outlier with so few Canadians, with 64% of the league being Canadians.

Here's an image I found of the breakdown of teams by nationality. It's for last season, and at the start of the season, so obviously not apples to apples... but there isn't really anything to be drawn from roster breakdown to performance.



Rangers had 4 Candians to start the year, won the Presidents trophy, and made it to the ECF with 5 Canadians on their roster. Montreal had the most Canadians, and finished 28th overall.

Correlation does not equal causation. If more Canadians = more playoff success, than a team with more Canadians than any other would do the best. They don't, obviously. Florida just knocked out Toronto, and they had like 16+ Canadians on their roster.

The Canucks are a massive outlier with so few Canadians, with 64% of the league being Canadians.

Here's an image I found of the breakdown of teams by nationality. It's for last season, and at the start of the season, so obviously not apples to apples... but there isn't really anything to be drawn from roster breakdown to performance.



Rangers had 4 Candians to start the year, won the Presidents trophy, and made it to the ECF with 5 Canadians on their roster. Montreal had the most Canadians, and finished 28th overall.
- NewYorkNuck

More than 2 Canadians = more chance of playoff success. The numbers prove it. Is that a simple enough statement of my argument?

I never mentioned anything about regular season or loading a club entirely with Canadians.

More than 2 Canadians = more chance of playoff success. The numbers prove it. Is that a simple enough statement of my argument?

I never mentioned anything about regular season or loading a club entirely with Canadians.
- Load Management

Again, correlation... the Canucks were the only team with that few of Canadians. Every other team had more than two. 15 out of 16 teams had more than two Canadians. Purely by a numbers thing the teams with more Canadians were likely to do better... because there were more of them. Again, there were teams with more Canadians that did worse than teams with fewer Canadians.

The number of Canadians on your team does not determine playoff success.

Please, no arguing on such a glorious day of Leaf misery, regret and loathing.
- Danny Bomber

Matthews for Petterson and this years 1st?

Again, correlation... the Canucks were the only team with that few of Canadians. Every other team had more than two. 15 out of 16 teams had more than two Canadians. Purely by a numbers thing the teams with more Canadians were likely to do better... because there were more of them. Again, there were teams with more Canadians that did worse than teams with fewer Canadians.

The number of Canadians on your team does not determine playoff success.
- NewYorkNuck

More than 2 = more chance of playoff success. You still haven't disproven it. If anything you've done the opposite.

More than 2 = more chance of playoff success. You still haven't disproven it. If anything you've done the opposite.
- Load Management

I mean.. sure. You're basically arguing that no team with a North Korean has ever won the Stanley Cup, therefore if you want to win the Stanley Cup you shoudn't have a North Korean on your team. It's technically true that no North Korean has won, but isn't causal.

The vast majority of NHL teams have more than 2 Canadians. Based purely on odds, teams with more Canadians will have more playoff success. Not because of the Canadians, just because of the odds.

But sure, we can end this conversation.

I mean.. sure. You're basically arguing that no team with a North Korean has ever won the Stanley Cup, therefore if you want to win the Stanley Cup you shoudn't have a North Korean on your team. It's technically true that no North Korean has won, but isn't causal.

The vast majority of NHL teams have more than 2 Canadians. Based purely on odds, teams with more Canadians will have more playoff success. Not because of the Canadians, just because of the odds.

But sure, we can end this conversation.
- NewYorkNuck

Yes we can. Because you keep trying to put words in my mouth, and making absurd counter arguments against my point, that do nothing to disprove it.

The fact is, this team isn't going anywhere without a bigger contingent of Canadians. No team has in the history of the NHL has won the Cup with just 2 Canadians on the roster ever. I'll go even further and say that no team has ever won it with less than 8. It's undisputable for good reason.

Yes we can. Because you keep trying to put words in my mouth, and making absurd counter arguments against my point, that do nothing to disprove it.

The fact is, this team isn't going anywhere without a bigger contingent of Canadians. No team has in the history of the NHL has won the Cup with just 2 Canadians on the roster ever. I'll go even further and say that no team has ever won it with less than 8. It's undisputable for good reason.
- Load Management

Maybe Aquilini should look into getting a North Korean.

Maybe Aquilini should look into getting a North Korean.
- A_SteamingLombardi

No poop, it would either continue or end this stupid narrative that more nationalities of (insert country bias) on your team guarantees Stanley Cup success.
I have to agree with NYN, there are multiple teams with Canadian players that don’t win sweet (frank) all, but that is the Canucks failure because they don’t have enough Canadians where they would be guaranteed success.

So I went to the Abby Canucks game last night and was hugely disappointed, 1st goal was like 2 minutes in with a shot from the blue line that deflected a couple of times. Colorado was faster, opened lanes for passing, didn’t take poop and pressed non stop. Abby chased, took retaliatory penalties and played undisciplined. We are now down to a best of 3 all in Colorado, so it doesn’t look good to advance, but I’m hoping they can get composure and win the series so I can go to the conference finals.