Marner can fit at 13 AAV. Just have to let Tavares walk (too old to get Stamkos money unless he takes 5 AAV or less) and then trade Rielly to Vancouver.

The extra money you give to Marner can be saved by replacing Rielly with another 4-5 AAV offensive D-man like when they added OEL as a UFA.
- Rare_Jewel

Knies?

One of the players that plays with heart and balls.

Tavares is not worth a dime more than 5 AAV at his age, especially after what we saw happen with Stamkos.

If he wants to be Johnny Toronto, that's the price. Take it, or leave it.

Florida has 19 million to sign Ekblad and Bennett. They'll be just fine, especially if they repeat. Players won't want to leave that sweet situation unless you overpay them absurdly.
- Rare_Jewel

Florida and Tampa have always not been shy from moving on from key players to make the changes needed to stay competitive. See Stamkos, OEL etc.

Biggest issue with this argument is the Atlantic Division. Florida, Tampa, previously Boston, banging your head against the wall because you can't win a series. Boston is gone, but now we have Ottawa, Montreal and Detroit on the cusp. Either retool now, or end up like Boston within 3 years.
- PrinceLH

Name one team in the division that gets better if they lose their top scorer for nothing as a UFA?

When Florida want a "culture change" they at least got M. Tkachuk for Huberdeau.

This team will not get better by letting Marner walk for nothing. Sorry.

Tavares is not worth a dime more than 5 AAV at his age, especially after what we saw happen with Stamkos.

If he wants to be Johnny Toronto, that's the price. Take it, or leave it.

Florida has 19 million to sign Ekblad and Bennett. They'll be just fine, especially if they repeat. Players won't want to leave that sweet situation unless you overpay them absurdly.
- Rare_Jewel

No different than there's 11.5 - 12 available for hometown money bags Mitch who keeps indicating he cares about nothing but fleecing his hometown team, and if he doesn't want it he can (frank) off.

That's what the salary to play here pays. If it's not good enough, take your inability to show up when it matters and go cash in somewhere else.

Florida and Tampa have always not been shy from moving on from key players to make the changes needed to stay competitive. See Stamkos, OEL etc.
- PrinceLH

Stamkos was "replaced" by a younger player. You aren't finding somebody as a UFA to replace Marner who is younger and gives you better numbers.

It's the Muskoka 5 all over again. Fix it now or join Boston outside the playoff race.
- PrinceLH

Sure, but that doesn't make it possible, or a successful approach.

Who are these teams that have cornered their core players into waiving, and walked away with the cups. 🤷

Knies?

One of the players that plays with heart and balls.
- underhill14

Bridge deal. He'll get his big money when the cap is even higher.

Simply showing up to this site to tout how right you are (before the series is over) doesn't change the fact you're a loser


I mean the players sure didn't show up either but at least they don't think the series is over
- Aaron_85

I don't think it's over, but they aren't beating Florida with this kind of play. Tampa FAFO against Florida. They played Possum during the last 20 games of the season and just flipped the switch. They've destroyed the Lightning physically.

Name one team in the division that gets better if they lose their top scorer for nothing as a UFA?

When Florida want a "culture change" they at least got M. Tkachuk for Huberdeau.

This team will not get better by letting Marner walk for nothing. Sorry.
- Rare_Jewel

Toronto doesn't need a culture change if they lose again and to Ottawa?!?!?

Marner for Rantanen. Better

Marner for Thachuk. Better

Both of the deals WERE possible but didn't happen because Leafs.

Just because you don't see a player yet, doesn't mean if the team had the balls to trade Marner they wouldn't get better.

Name one team in the division that gets better if they lose their top scorer for nothing as a UFA?

When Florida want a "culture change" they at least got M. Tkachuk for Huberdeau.

This team will not get better by letting Marner walk for nothing. Sorry.
- Rare_Jewel

Tampa Bay. They let their Captain walk to Nashville and still were competitive.

Toronto doesn't need a culture change if they lose again and to Ottawa?!?!?
- underhill14

Yes, but that comes at the expense of Tavares and Rielly. Not the current leading scorer of the team who also makes the captain better.

Marner for Rantanen. Better

NMC, was never gonna happen.

Marner for Thachuk. Better

Both of the deals WERE possible but didn't happen because Leafs.

Don't think this was real either.

Just because you don't see a player yet, doesn't mean if the team had the balls to trade Marner they wouldn't get better.

Name me the team that won a Cup that let their leading scorer go as a UFA.

Tampa Bay. They let their Captain walk to Nashville and still were competitive.
- PrinceLH

At 34 years old and replaced him with a 40 goal scoring 29 year old.

So, find me the UFA the Leafs can sign who will score more and is younger than Marner.

At 34 years old and replaced him with a 40 goal scoring 29 year old.

So, find me the UFA the Leafs can sign who will score more and is younger than Marner.
- Rare_Jewel

Brock Boeser is a 40 goal scorer. Probably a $9M hockey player.

Boldy is effin good this year.

Brock Boeser is a 40 goal scorer. Probably a $9M hockey player.
- PrinceLH

50 point player. -25. Once in 9 years he managed 40 goals.

After 9 years in Vancouver, he's not playing in Canada ever again.

And you're going to give him 9 AAV but let the 100 point Selke nominee walk...?

Won't work out well buddy, sorry.

50 points. -25. Once in 9 years he managed 40 goals.

After 9 years in Vancouver, he's not playing in Canada ever again.

And you're going to give him 9 AAV but let the 100 point Selke nominee walk...?

Won't work out well buddy, sorry.
- Rare_Jewel

If the difference is $6M on the Cap, yes. That money would pay for Matthew Knies next contract, once added to his current contract value. Knies is more valuable than Marner because he has a compete level that's miles above anyone else in the core 4. Boeser would be coming to a more competitive team and as an American, he gets his bonuses paid in the state that he resides in, like Matthews.

If the difference is $6M on the Cap, yes. That money would pay for Matthew Knies next contract, once added to his current contract value. Knies is more valuable than Marner because he has a compete level that's miles above anyone else in the core 4. Boeser would be coming to a more competitive team and as an American, he gets his bonuses paid in the state that he resides in, like Matthews.
- PrinceLH

Sorry, but you're on some kind of special drugs if you think Boeser is worth 9 AAV.

Letting Tavares walk or trading Rielly pays for Knies.

Let me know when Knies can score 100 points and is nominated for the Selke. I like how he plays in the playoffs too but he didn't score tonight either. He's not some kind of unstoppable superstar, he's a very physical complimentary player who benefits from playing with elite playmakers and elite snipers. Knies wouldn't have anywhere near the value you think he has if it wasn't for Marner and Matthews.

Boeser would be an idiot to stay in Canada (unless grossly overpaid like 9 million as you would give him). He'd be better off going home and not dealing with the BS.

No different than there's 11.5 - 12 available for hometown money bags Mitch who keeps indicating he cares about nothing but fleecing his hometown team, and if he doesn't want it he can (frank) off.

That's what the salary to play here pays. If it's not good enough, take your inability to show up when it matters and go cash in somewhere else.
- joel878

He's Johnny Gaudreau 2.0. Go to an inferior team for his retirement contract. He then becomes a performer, instead of a competitor. Can't take the big city heat and go play and perform like a trained seal in the United States.

Sorry, but you're on some kind of special drugs if you think Boeser is worth 9 AAV.

Letting Tavares walk or trading Rielly pays for Knies.

Let me know when Knies can score 100 points and is nominated for the Selke. I like how he plays in the playoffs too but he didn't score tonight either. He's not some kind of unstoppable superstar, he's a very physical complimentary player who benefits from playing with elite playmakers and elite snipers. Knies wouldn't have anywhere near the value you think he has if it wasn't for Marner and Matthews.

Boeser would be an idiot to stay in Canada (unless grossly overpaid like 9 million as you would give him). He'd be better off going home and not dealing with the BS.
- Rare_Jewel

The issue is the Cap. It's progressive upward pay scale makes players ask for more and get it. Marner would never settle for the same contract as Nylander. The difference is the year the contracts are signed. Marner will not take less than $13.5MX8. He's not worth it!

Letting Tavares and Rielly walk causes 2 large holes on the roster that would need to be addressed. Money in, money out for two similar players.

The issue is the Cap. It's progressive upward pay scale makes players ask for more and get it. Marner would never settle for the same contract as Nylander. The difference is the year the contracts are signed. Marner will not take less than $13.5MX8. He's not worth it!
- PrinceLH

They have 26.8 million in space. 33+ if they trade Rielly.

He's worth every penny.

They have 26.8 million in space. 33+ if they trade Rielly.

He's worth every penny.
- Rare_Jewel

You weaken your roster letting so many players go to facilitate one greedy little player with $$$ in his eyes. He's proven to not show up in the playoffs. That's the reason that he needs to be let go above the $12M per season threshold.

You weaken your roster letting so many players go to facilitate one greedy little player with $$$ in his eyes. He's proven to not show up in the playoffs. That's the reason that he needs to be let go above the $12M per season threshold.
- PrinceLH

You weaken your team losing elite players for nothing when you assume personality traits such as greed just because he wants what he is worth and the team already gave everybody else what they were worth.

Edmonton has done a 180 in the past 3 games.

With basically an AHL goalie, rolling 4 lines.

Totally relentless. 46 shots on the road against the best home team in the NHL.

Great to watch.

never been a thing i ever said

i did tell you to kill yourself before though, and i still agree with that statement
- daeth

You sure?



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