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Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 23 @ 9:34 AM ET
Given the UFA market & our needs there doesn’t look to be any exciting big moves to be made outside of a trade.

Coming back if to resign Suter & how much & how long?

BB resigns for the 5/8m or let him walk? That will get mixed reviews lol

Raty looked very ready during his call up. Leki needs an impressive camp to sell me on he’s ready. Mancini was a pleasant surprise as the seemingly throw in piece for JTM.

Kinda sorta status quo SNAFU roster lol

- Nighthawk


Those needs are aplenty. This team needs at least 5 top 6 players and at least 1 big strong centre for the bottom 6. Currently Raty is the biggest centre at 6'2 and 190lbs.
3 of the Canucks top 4 defensemen are 180lbs or less. Not a formula for winning much.

I know this isn't a popular opinion, but, the Ccanucks need to move their best player who should return some nice assets.
Moving Hughes to say New Jersey, for a return of Nemec, a 6'1 195 lb right shot defenseman, on an ELC, Dawson Mercer a versatile, consistent, top 6 20 goal scorer, a 2026 1st round pick, in a very good deep draft and a high pick, 1st preferably in 2027, would help moving forward.
Might have to look at some of the RFA's who might not get qualified, to fill out the big centreman role, such as Cody Glass, who has turned into a reliable defensive centre.
This team nearly needs a reset, so may as well start now

This list is a bit old, but it provides some outlook on the 2026 draft, excluding some that have risen this season.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....rospects-you-need-to-know
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Apr 23 @ 11:33 AM ET
Those needs are aplenty. This team needs at least 5 top 6 players and at least 1 big strong centre for the bottom 6. Currently Raty is the biggest centre at 6'2 and 190lbs.
3 of the Canucks top 4 defensemen are 180lbs or less. Not a formula for winning much.

I know this isn't a popular opinion, but, the Ccanucks need to move their best player who should return some nice assets.
Moving Hughes to say New Jersey, for a return of Nemec, a 6'1 195 lb right shot defenseman, on an ELC, Dawson Mercer a versatile, consistent, top 6 20 goal scorer, a 2026 1st round pick, in a very good deep draft and a high pick, 1st preferably in 2027, would help moving forward.
Might have to look at some of the RFA's who might not get qualified, to fill out the big centreman role, such as Cody Glass, who has turned into a reliable defensive centre.
This team nearly needs a reset, so may as well start now

This list is a bit old, but it provides some outlook on the 2026 draft, excluding some that have risen this season.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....rospects-you-need-to-know

- Reubenkincade


Please stop with this BS - your 'takes' are so heavily fuelled by your hatred for everything good in this franchise that its becoming embarrassing.

I've never read so many consistently horrible suggestions from one human. You should take a long vacation from the Canucks and this blog. Why you even pretend to give a fawk about this team - makes no sense.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver Island BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:45 AM ET
Please stop with this BS - your 'takes' are so heavily fuelled by your hatred for everything good in this franchise that its becoming embarrassing.

I've never read so many consistently horrible suggestions from one human. You should take a long vacation from the Canucks and this blog. Why you even pretend to give a fawk about this team - makes no sense.

- Brooks_Light



He's a nice guy though...just sayin!!
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 23 @ 11:49 AM ET
Please stop with this BS - your 'takes' are so heavily fuelled by your hatred for everything good in this franchise that its becoming embarrassing.

I've never read so many consistently horrible suggestions from one human. You should take a long vacation from the Canucks and this blog. Why you even pretend to give a fawk about this team - makes no sense.

- Brooks_Light

Like 2 playoffs in 10 years.
Letting two immature players derail an entire season.
Keeping UFA's to only watch them wave good bye for nothing.
The never ending rebuilding on the fly while staying competitive.

At least the Canucks got their participation ribbon this season while people like you are happy with mediocrity.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 23 @ 12:48 PM ET
Like 2 playoffs in 10 years.
Letting two immature players derail an entire season.
Keeping UFA's to only watch them wave good bye for nothing.
The never ending rebuilding on the fly while staying competitive.

At least the Canucks got their participation ribbon this season while people like you are happy with mediocrity.

- Marwood

Spreading more of that contagious enthusiasm. You can be happy with the team and not happy with the result/want more out of the players. We missed the playoffs by about 4 wins. Over an 82 game season that’s a crazy low margin of error. Anyway, I’m sure you are positive about many things in life and hockey is just the exception.
Load Management
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Apr 23 @ 1:19 PM ET
Spreading more of that contagious enthusiasm. You can be happy with the team and not happy with the result/want more out of the players. We missed the playoffs by about 4 wins. Over an 82 game season that’s a crazy low margin of error. Anyway, I’m sure you are positive about many things in life and hockey is just the exception.
- neem55


He's not wrong.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver Island BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 23 @ 1:28 PM ET
Spreading more of that contagious enthusiasm. You can be happy with the team and not happy with the result/want more out of the players. We missed the playoffs by about 4 wins. Over an 82 game season that’s a crazy low margin of error. Anyway, I’m sure you are positive about many things in life and hockey is just the exception.
- neem55

He's right though, it has nothing to do with being happy or unhappy with the team. They've had so many missteps in the past several years, you can't just stick your proverbial head in the sand and ignore it. And it doesn't look to be getting any better either.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 23 @ 1:45 PM ET
He's right though, it has nothing to do with being happy or unhappy with the team. They've had so many missteps in the past several years, you can't just stick your proverbial head in the sand and ignore it. And it doesn't look to be getting any better either.
- Pacificgem

I think that this is the best the defence has been in 10 years. That players not training or getting along with each other is not always something management can do something about. I agree with the not trading UFAs part, but I’m not convinced they won’t re-sign Boeser
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver Island BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 23 @ 1:54 PM ET
I think that this is the best the defence has been in 10 years. That players not training or getting along with each other is not always something management can do something about. I agree with the not trading UFAs part, but I’m not convinced they won’t re-sign Boeser
- neem55

I don't disagree, about the defense, having said that, despite it being in good shape the missteps in handling Milergate, among other things, negated anything good they've done in that regard. Thus the discontent.

PS: I like Allvin, but there's a hint of arrogance in his tone, he's starting to rub me the wrong way. If he's a bit of a dyck on a personal level, that's fine if he's successful, so far that's still up in the air.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 23 @ 4:20 PM ET
Those needs are aplenty. This team needs at least 5 top 6 players and at least 1 big strong centre for the bottom 6. Currently Raty is the biggest centre at 6'2 and 190lbs.
3 of the Canucks top 4 defensemen are 180lbs or less. Not a formula for winning much.

I know this isn't a popular opinion, but, the Ccanucks need to move their best player who should return some nice assets.
Moving Hughes to say New Jersey, for a return of Nemec, a 6'1 195 lb right shot defenseman, on an ELC, Dawson Mercer a versatile, consistent, top 6 20 goal scorer, a 2026 1st round pick, in a very good deep draft and a high pick, 1st preferably in 2027, would help moving forward.
Might have to look at some of the RFA's who might not get qualified, to fill out the big centreman role, such as Cody Glass, who has turned into a reliable defensive centre.
This team nearly needs a reset, so may as well start now

This list is a bit old, but it provides some outlook on the 2026 draft, excluding some that have risen this season.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....rospects-you-need-to-know

- Reubenkincade

I’ve never disagreed size is needed & but speed comes with it. Those 2 together are hard to get that can also contribute to scoring. Imo they are drafted in later rounds & are projects.& get developed.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 23 @ 4:26 PM ET
Spreading more of that contagious enthusiasm. You can be happy with the team and not happy with the result/want more out of the players. We missed the playoffs by about 4 wins. Over an 82 game season that’s a crazy low margin of error. Anyway, I’m sure you are positive about many things in life and hockey is just the exception.
- neem55


Don’t forget 1 round & done complaints means lousier draft position. Then win a cup is everything. 31 teams don’t win.

The real question is its entertainment & yet for many it’s always the negative & only worsens over time & all the history revisited so is hockey fun or only winning is?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 23 @ 9:15 PM ET
Please stop with this BS - your 'takes' are so heavily fuelled by your hatred for everything good in this franchise that its becoming embarrassing.

I've never read so many consistently horrible suggestions from one human. You should take a long vacation from the Canucks and this blog. Why you even pretend to give a fawk about this team - makes no sense.

- Brooks_Light


Hey, thanks for the advise, just wondering, if you think maybe the Canucks can vastly improve this team, during Quinn's finally 2 years here.
Maybe the team can trade Blueger, Bains and a 1st to fill in all the holes.

Have a nice day.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 23 @ 9:19 PM ET
Hey, thanks for the advise, just wondering, if you think maybe the Canucks can vastly improve this team, during Quinn's finally 2 years here.
Maybe the team can trade Blueger, Bains and a 1st to fill in all the holes.

Have a nice day.

- Reubenkincade


If Hughes isn't going to re-sign, you have to trade him. Unfortunately, it's not a trade you have much chance of winning or even breaking even on.

You'd think his value would be highest this offseason when there's term left on his contract. I think he's in Vancouver to begin the season.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 23 @ 9:25 PM ET
I think that this is the best the defence has been in 10 years. That players not training or getting along with each other is not always something management can do something about. I agree with the not trading UFAs part, but I’m not convinced they won’t re-sign Boeser
- neem55


The team allowed 30 more goals against this season, compared to last seasons anomaly year.Not sure why people have a hard time figuring that out.

Let me guess guess

Injuries
Forest fires
New players( same amount as previous season)

Etc, etc, etc.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 23 @ 9:26 PM ET
Those needs are aplenty. This team needs at least 5 top 6 players and at least 1 big strong centre for the bottom 6. Currently Raty is the biggest centre at 6'2 and 190lbs.
3 of the Canucks top 4 defensemen are 180lbs or less. Not a formula for winning much.

I know this isn't a popular opinion, but, the Ccanucks need to move their best player who should return some nice assets.
Moving Hughes to say New Jersey, for a return of Nemec, a 6'1 195 lb right shot defenseman, on an ELC, Dawson Mercer a versatile, consistent, top 6 20 goal scorer, a 2026 1st round pick, in a very good deep draft and a high pick, 1st preferably in 2027, would help moving forward.
Might have to look at some of the RFA's who might not get qualified, to fill out the big centreman role, such as Cody Glass, who has turned into a reliable defensive centre.
This team nearly needs a reset, so may as well start now

This list is a bit old, but it provides some outlook on the 2026 draft, excluding some that have risen this season.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....rospects-you-need-to-know

- Reubenkincade


Rutherford basically threw his name out there to see what kind of interest there is. Not far fetched at all.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 23 @ 9:28 PM ET
Hey, thanks for the advise, just wondering, if you think maybe the Canucks can vastly improve this team, during Quinn's finally 2 years here.
Maybe the team can trade Blueger, Bains and a 1st to fill in all the holes.

Have a nice day.

- Reubenkincade

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 23 @ 9:33 PM ET
If Hughes isn't going to re-sign, you have to trade him. Unfortunately, it's not a trade you have much chance of winning or even breaking even on.

You'd think his value would be highest this offseason when there's term left on his contract. I think he's in Vancouver to begin the season.

- golfingsince


Him, Garland and Sherwood are the only reason why I watched 7 full games this season. The team needs to thank Hughes for his loyalty and get the best return possible for him, he will be a hot commodity
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 23 @ 9:35 PM ET
The team allowed 30 more goals against this season, compared to last seasons anomaly year.Not sure why people have a hard time figuring that out.

Let me guess guess

Injuries
Forest fires
New players( same amount as previous season)

Etc, etc, etc.

- Reubenkincade


The D looks a lot different than it did at the beginning of the season. I actually agree with Neem for once that the D looks better (organizationally) than it has in a decade.

The forwards on the other hand are a hot mess.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 23 @ 9:38 PM ET

- K-man25


I don't understand some people's logic, the Canucks are in a conference with the 4 weakest teams and finished 10th, behind the Fflames who have been retooling and barely ahead of Utah and the rebuilding Ducks


Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 23 @ 9:41 PM ET
The D looks a lot different than it did at the beginning of the season. I actually agree with Neem for once that the D looks better (organizationally) than it has in a decade.

The forwards on the other hand are a hot mess.

- golfingsince


I am not complaining about the defensemen, although I am concerned about the weight of 3 of the top 4, who are 180 or less. Not something I would think will get you very far,
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 23 @ 9:45 PM ET
I am not complaining about the defensemen, although I am concerned about the weight of 3 of the top 4, who are 180 or less. Not something I would think will get you very far,
- Reubenkincade

I think the d was better last year but I haven’t watched as many Canuck games this year as they’re not as entertaining as last.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 23 @ 9:49 PM ET
I am not complaining about the defensemen, although I am concerned about the weight of 3 of the top 4, who are 180 or less. Not something I would think will get you very far,
- Reubenkincade

You mentioned this earlier so I had a look and it just showed M. Petterson at 174 and Hughes at 180.

E. Petterson 185 and growing
Hronek 190
Myers 229
Mancini 229
Willander is 191 and growing.


Overall, it's not a big group but it also isn't that small. Again, I'm more concerned about the forwards and their lack of talent.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 23 @ 9:54 PM ET
I think the d was better last year but I haven’t watched as many Canuck games this year as they’re not as entertaining as last.
- K-man25

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 23 @ 10:01 PM ET
Don’t forget 1 round & done complaints means lousier draft position. Then win a cup is everything. 31 teams don’t win.

The real question is its entertainment & yet for many it’s always the negative & only worsens over time & all the history revisited so is hockey fun or only winning is?

- Nighthawk

I love watching playoff hockey, have watched most of the games as I’m a hockey fan. Canucks in the playoffs is just that but even better for me!
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 23 @ 10:53 PM ET
The team allowed 30 more goals against this season, compared to last seasons anomaly year.Not sure why people have a hard time figuring that out.

Let me guess guess

Injuries
Forest fires
New players( same amount as previous season)

Etc, etc, etc.

- Reubenkincade

EP underperforming and Demko out were the difference, 4 wins instead of losses and we’re watching the Canucks right now.
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