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kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Thursday @ 12:22 PM ET
There is a good feeling about Darche right now. Communication is the key and hopefully it will not be like the C.I.A like with past GM's.
- ses111



They brought up community a bunch. That was interesting to me. The ways of making money have expanded to millions more by way of the internet and streaming, branding etc. Darche being business savvy in that regard is music to the owners ears. As Darche said to Collin’s “when you make more money I can spend more money”.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Thursday @ 12:24 PM ET
They brought up community a bunch. That was interesting to me. The ways of making money have expanded to millions more by way of the internet and streaming, branding etc. Darche being business savvy in that regard is music to the owners ears. As Darche said to Collin’s “when you make more money I can spend more money”.
- kindlyrick


The old ways the Islanders did things need to be over. They need to start acting like a big-time team.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Thursday @ 12:26 PM ET
The old ways the Islanders did things need to be over. They need to start acting like a big-time team.
- ses111



Well this press conference and seeing Collin’s and Darche answer questions made it clear that they’re big game hunting. I don’t think they struck me as ok with losing. Personally I’m very excited……extremely positive presser.
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Thursday @ 12:27 PM ET
Based on the quick replacements of the assistants and entire bport coaching staff, I have to assume the internal jobs, like AGM and Bport GM will be Darches picks. I just don’t get the vibe that he’s keeping anyone, it’s all going to be his people. It’s a process, and I think you’ll see everyone replaced over time.
- kindlyrick

I wouldn't be surprised to see Pellegrini stick around given his billing as a talented capologist. If I recall from Friedman's last podcast, he was one of the architects of the current CBA so he probably knows it inside and out. But I can't imagine he has any desire to keep C. Lamoriello around given his long track record of...nothing and pretty much being a nepotism hire wherever Lou went
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Thursday @ 12:29 PM ET
Well this press conference and seeing Collin’s and Darche answer questions made it clear that they’re big game hunting. I don’t think they struck me as ok with losing. Personally I’m very excited……extremely positive presser.
- kindlyrick


The team needs smart and aggressive moves. No more timid Island and do nothing offseasons.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Thursday @ 12:31 PM ET
I wouldn't be surprised to see Pellegrini stick around given his billing as a talented capologist. If I recall from Friedman's last podcast, he was one of the architects of the current CBA so he probably knows it inside and out. But I can't imagine he has any desire to keep C. Lamoriello around given his long track record of...nothing and pretty much being a nepotism hire wherever Lou went
- Gabe Athaus


Yeah I’m sure a guy like Pellegrini would be an asset being a cap guy, but I’m sure the Chris Lams within the organization are already on Zillow lookin for new homes.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Thursday @ 12:32 PM ET
Yeah I’m sure a guy like Pellegrini would be an asset being a cap guy, but I’m sure the Chris Lams within the organization are already on Zillow lookin for new homes.
- kindlyrick


I wish Pellegrini could have had more impact in stopping the bad signings.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Thursday @ 1:27 PM ET
I wouldn't be surprised to see Pellegrini stick around given his billing as a talented capologist. If I recall from Friedman's last podcast, he was one of the architects of the current CBA so he probably knows it inside and out. But I can't imagine he has any desire to keep C. Lamoriello around given his long track record of...nothing and pretty much being a nepotism hire wherever Lou went
- Gabe Athaus

I think Chris L. was a Snow hire. Nevertheless, I agree about his track record, and hipe they find a better GM for Bridgeport, even if it takes a while.
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Thursday @ 1:32 PM ET
I think Chris L. was a Snow hire. Nevertheless, I agree about his track record, and hipe they find a better GM for Bridgeport, even if it takes a while.
- JohnScammo

Ah, maybe. Good catch.

Well regardless, hopefully Stacy Roest is being brought in to deal with player development and run the AHL squad. Or someone. Pretty much anyone not named Chris Lamoriello. Maybe one of those service dogs the Isles sponsor can take the Bridgeport GM job.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Thursday @ 2:11 PM ET
Ah, maybe. Good catch.

Well regardless, hopefully Stacy Roest is being brought in to deal with player development and run the AHL squad. Or someone. Pretty much anyone not named Chris Lamoriello. Maybe one of those service dogs the Isles sponsor can take the Bridgeport GM job.

- Gabe Athaus


The results can't get any worse.


kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Thursday @ 2:57 PM ET
Stefen Rosner

Confirmed that Benoit Desrosiers will remain on Patrick Roy's staff. #Isles
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Thursday @ 3:47 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
1h
Jonathan Toews reached out to his agent Pat Brisson yesterday to inform him he's 100 percent committed to coming back to the NHL next season. Just spoke with Brisson, who says he will start taking calls from NHL teams on Toews now leading up to July 1.
Toews, 37, last played in April 2023. He's been working out the last several months to get himself ready for this comeback.


If they move on from Pageau, Toews could be an option to bring in to fill a center spot. If he does well he's a trade deadline chip, if he doesn't he'd at least still be a good mentor for a young two-way center like Ritchie.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Thursday @ 3:50 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
1h
Jonathan Toews reached out to his agent Pat Brisson yesterday to inform him he's 100 percent committed to coming back to the NHL next season. Just spoke with Brisson, who says he will start taking calls from NHL teams on Toews now leading up to July 1.
Toews, 37, last played in April 2023. He's been working out the last several months to get himself ready for this comeback.


If they move on from Pageau, Toews could be an option to bring in to fill a center spot. If he does well he's a trade deadline chip, if he doesn't he'd at least still be a good mentor for a young two-way center like Ritchie.

- Gabe Athaus


I said this a few months back. I bet he’s got a few good years left in him. Wouldn’t cost anything but cash to sign. I think it’s a do for the isles if he’s willing 🤷‍♂️
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Thursday @ 3:54 PM ET
I said this a few months back. I bet he’s got a few good years left in him. Wouldn’t cost anything but cash to sign. I think it’s a do for the isles if he’s willing 🤷‍♂️
- kindlyrick

As long as it's for one year I mostly don't see a downside. It'd only make sense if they were moving on from Pageau and even then could be a little wonky. He'd probably be best suited for a 3C role which is where Ritchie is going to slot in. But I think having him around for a young guy with a similar skillset to him would only be great for Ritchie's development.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Thursday @ 4:14 PM ET
As long as it's for one year I mostly don't see a downside. It'd only make sense if they were moving on from Pageau and even then could be a little wonky. He'd probably be best suited for a 3C role which is where Ritchie is going to slot in. But I think having him around for a young guy with a similar skillset to him would only be great for Ritchie's development.
- Gabe Athaus



Not sure the isles have the luxury of luring Toews here for a one year but perhaps they can do a 3 year with the money in bonus’ and the first year, so the 2nd and 3rd year are min cap hits?
Gabe Athaus
Location: San Francisco
Joined: 09.12.2019

Thursday @ 4:16 PM ET
Not sure the isles have the luxury of luring Toews here for a one year but perhaps they can do a 3 year with the money in bonus’ and the first year, so the 2nd and 3rd year are min cap hits?
- kindlyrick

I don't think any team is going to be giving him multiple years after not having played in a few seasons.

Probably a moot discussion anyway, one of the Hawks beat writers seems to think Winnipeg (home for him) is the most likely destination
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Thursday @ 7:05 PM ET
Next draft is the one to suck the most for. It’s worth sacrificing a season for the long term success of the team. Not sure if the owners or Darche will agree with that sentiment but that’s my opinion with no skin in the game.
- Cptmjl


Listening to the news conference today you are probably correct. Darche and Collins appeared to say all the right things. It was nice to hear someone acknowledge the short comings within the organization.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Thursday @ 7:08 PM ET
“keep the cost-controlled Pelech, who still puts up excellent results”. Has this dude watched the team play the last three years.


They discuss having George, Pelech, and Schaefer as our top 3. I mean I’m all for it only because I want a legit shot at first overall next draft minus the whole sabotaging Schaefer’s development thing. Having a 19 year old defenseman playing in a top pairing role in the NHL isn’t usually the best plan. I’ll say I doubt the team does this unless they want to be the Sharks East. This article is stupid and I’m dumber for reading it.

- Cptmjl


That is why I was asking if any of the top 5 are even NHL ready for next season.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Thursday @ 7:59 PM ET
So it’s been a crazy year and a half. Ended up having to move back to Arizona.

I haven’t been able to keep up with the goings on with the team so I’ll defer to you experts.

Thoughts on Darche? I’m guessing the next couple months will be pivotal for the team and seeing what his plan is.

Thoughts on Roy being retained? Who should he bring on board as assistant?

Any UFA’s the team should go after? Expiring contracts you don’t want back?

Thank you and good evening.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Thursday @ 8:15 PM ET
I don't understand the Nelson hate. He didn't score in the playoffs, but had 4 assists in 7 games, and we all know how responsible he is in the defensive zone. Also, that he is very streaky. I'm not saying I want the Isles to resign him, but I also read that the Avs coach loved brining him in and he fit their number 2 center spot perfectly. Not sure if this changed in 7 playoff games??

Nfd, where did you hear/read he isn't going staying with the Avs?

- streaks


30+ goal scorer, plays both pp and pk.
If you get him cheap I would do it in a heartbeat.
I think he may want out of Co. only because
he didn’t seem to have much chemistry with his mates. Short time to get adjusted but he wasn’t his best imho.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Thursday @ 8:18 PM ET
Romanov is an RFA, not a UFA, so you don't need to give him a long-term deal. The new GM may choose to give him a long-term deal, but it's not like he has to. Romanov is also the best d-man on the team right now, so I sure wouldn't be looking to trade him, unless some team is willing to overpay for him by a lot. Florida has been having success in the playoffs with lots of speed and lots of physical play. I get that physical play takes its toll on players, but, as Cpt said, it's a necessary part of the game.
- JohnScammo


I agree, Why would you look to trade a young physical D man? On top on that as you said the team has the upper hand on his next contract.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Thursday @ 8:36 PM ET
30+ goal scorer, plays both pp and pk.
If you get him cheap I would do it in a heartbeat.
I think he may want out of Co. only because
he didn’t seem to have much chemistry with his mates. Short time to get adjusted but he wasn’t his best imho.

- nyisles7

https://www.prohockeyrumo...nsion-with-avalanche.html

This article suggests that Colorado may yet try to sign Nelson to an extension, and that he is projected to get $21 MM over 3 seasons. At that price, I think the Islanders will take a pass. Like you said, if they can get him cheap, then maybe you sign him. But $7 MM/season isn't cheap.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Thursday @ 8:52 PM ET
https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2025/05/brock-nelson-could-explore-extension-with-avalanche.html

This article suggests that Colorado may yet try to sign Nelson to an extension, and that he is projected to get $21 MM over 3 seasons. At that price, I think the Islanders will take a pass. Like you said, if they can get him cheap, then maybe you sign him. But $7 MM/season isn't cheap.

- JohnScammo


I wouldn’t sign him at 7 per either.
The cap did go up a lot so there will be an uptick in the salaries imho.
I think there will be a lot of teams looking to sign him.
streaks
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.25.2018

Thursday @ 8:58 PM ET
https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2025/05/brock-nelson-could-explore-extension-with-avalanche.html

This article suggests that Colorado may yet try to sign Nelson to an extension, and that he is projected to get $21 MM over 3 seasons. At that price, I think the Islanders will take a pass. Like you said, if they can get him cheap, then maybe you sign him. But $7 MM/season isn't cheap.

- JohnScammo

I read the early on after he was traded the Avs coach and GM love him and what he brings. Not surprised they want to resign, especially after what they gave up for him. But the AaV may be high.
streaks
New York Islanders
Joined: 02.25.2018

Thursday @ 9:01 PM ET
30+ goal scorer, plays both pp and pk.
If you get him cheap I would do it in a heartbeat.
I think he may want out of Co. only because
he didn’t seem to have much chemistry with his mates. Short time to get adjusted but he wasn’t his best imho.

- nyisles7

I think his playoffs weren’t horrible, if they kept going he sinks in. They’ll definitely resign him and he loves it there, his son too from what I read. We’ll see.
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