Bad coach or not, 2nd year straight they didn't qualify for medals.

Does Luchenko playing more mean they would have made the medal rounds?

NO...Luchenko is a nice skater, has hands of stone, and is being pushed down our throats as a steal and a future centre piece. I don't see it. I see 3c as his ceiling on a true contender.
- TheFreak

As a fan I hope he stays in juniors next season. His offense will be stifled in the NHL under this staff.

Any thoughts on having Johnson in the lineup over Grans while Zamula is on the injured list. Seems like an opportune time to get him another look to see if he has progressed from his first stint.

You really believe one Nicolas Deslauriers has value and will return a draft pick?
- Striiker

seventh rounder at best.

seventh rounder at best.
- TheFreak

Can't see any team taking that contract in any way (or even entertaining it) as he offers you nothing. He will bring down his line and force others to play more minutes. Essentially playing with 11 forwards.

As a fan I hope he stays in juniors next season. His offense will be stifled in the NHL under this staff.
- Striiker

I agree. He is still only 18 and no need to rush him. JD thinks he will be the Flyers #2 center next year. He shouldn't be put into the NHL lineup until he is ready, both physically and mentally.

I agree. He is still only 18 and no need to rush him. JD thinks he will be the Flyers #2 center next year. He shouldn't be put into the NHL lineup until he is ready, both physically and mentally.
- TheFreak

With this team that really isn't an outlandish prediction.

With this team that really isn't an outlandish prediction.
- Striiker

Oh they will rush him and try to force the issue.

But they shouldn't. Why rush him? If we somehow manage to get Hagens, I can't see him making the team right from the start. It would not hurt to slow the process down, let the prospect mature physically and mentally. They are a number of years away from being a real contender, if they make it. Rushing Luchenko is just dumb

Interesting trade thought, Laughton and one of the Flyers late 2025 1st round picks to Winnipeg for Brayden Yager and a 2nd round pick in 2026.
- jd250

I would love this move. Just curious, rumor you heard or just a hope of yours?

Cant
wait
- MBFlyerfan

Do u think it be like hockeybuzz community 🤔

Bad coach or not, 2nd year straight they didn't qualify for medals.

Does Luchenko playing more mean they would have made the medal rounds?

NO...Luchenko is a nice skater, has hands of stone, and is being pushed down our throats as a steal and a future centre piece. I don't see it. I see 3c as his ceiling on a true contender.
- TheFreak

No but hard to judge the way he was used with a incompetent coach

Do u think it be like hockeybuzz community 🤔
- SlNlSTER

Will be censored in my opinion

Can't see any team taking that contract in any way (or even entertaining it) as he offers you nothing. He will bring down his line and force others to play more minutes. Essentially playing with 11 forwards.
- Striiker

I agree. a few years ago, he would kill penalties on occasion, but now he can't. He's older and slower, plus there's pretty much no fighting in the playoffs. I love fighting in hockey and have no problem with Nic in the lineup on occasion against a team like the Rags if they dress Rempe. That said, I can't imagine how any team would want him at this point of his career.

No but hard to judge the way he was used with a incompetent coach
- SlNlSTER

I think the biggest issue is that Luchenko is over valued by the management team and some fans.
It's like TK. My son and I were talking last night about TK, and he told me I don't value the player enough. I said that I think he is being slotted right for this team and who is else is above him. I said his talent level on this team puts him on the fourth line. Cooper seems to think the same, as TK played less than anybody but Theodore who was injured in the second period. It's not a knock on the player at all..I think it's nice that he made the team. The other players are just better than them.

I think the biggest issue is that Luchenko is over valued by the management team and some fans.
It's like TK. My son and I were talking last night about TK, and he told me I don't value the player enough. I said that I think he is being slotted right for this team and who is else is above him. I said his talent level on this team puts him on the fourth line. Cooper seems to think the same, as TK played less than anybody but Theodore who was injured in the second period. It's not a knock on the player at all..I think it's nice that he made the team. The other players are just better than them.
- TheFreak

Agree with your tk assessment

And you might be right about Jett.

But iv been to a lot of gulph games and I see such a huge upside to him.

I agree. He is still only 18 and no need to rush him. JD thinks he will be the Flyers #2 center next year. He shouldn't be put into the NHL lineup until he is ready, both physically and mentally.
- TheFreak

He is ready both physically and mentally. I think there is no chance he is going back to juniors after this year. Look, on a bad team he is still putting up alomost 1.4 pts/gm which to means he has nothing more to gain from playing in juniors. And yes, I do believe he has top 6 potential, and so do the Flyers and for good reason. The kid can do a lot more than skate!

I think the biggest issue is that Luchenko is over valued by the management team and some fans.
It's like TK. My son and I were talking last night about TK, and he told me I don't value the player enough. I said that I think he is being slotted right for this team and who is else is above him. I said his talent level on this team puts him on the fourth line. Cooper seems to think the same, as TK played less than anybody but Theodore who was injured in the second period. It's not a knock on the player at all..I think it's nice that he made the team. The other players are just better than them.
- TheFreak

So Cooper doesn't play TK a whole lot in this game and that means TK is not at the same level? What about the year he has had with the Flyers? Does that count? Did you know TK has been sick and didn't even practice with the US team before the game? Thankfully, Don Sweeny knows what he is watching.

I would love this move. Just curious, rumor you heard or just a hope of yours?
- Laceemup88

I talked to some people during the beanpot this past week and this was one of the potential trades that was talked about in passing when I asked about the Flyers. Not sure there is any merit to it, but it makes sense on a few levels. Winnipeg is very interested in Laughton.

OK..I agree Johnson has no value. It would be aboput clearing the contract, the cap...yes..Andrae could have slipped in if Johnson wasn't signed. I would rather have a young Andrae in the lineup than Johnson.

What does it matter if he is ufa or not? The rumor is that Briere was offered at least a first for Laughton, but he turned it down, as "the room" is too important to the team.

You get offered a first for Laughton, you grab it and run. UFA has nothing to do with it. Some teams like Calgary would take on guys with term due to their issues getting players resigned.

We could already have extra prospects in the system if they traded their own players away.

I still can't see Risto being traded without retention.
- TheFreak

Think about it. If Briere was offered a 1st round pick for any of his veteran players, he would take it in a heartbeat. No one offered Briere a 1st round pick. Look, Briere is going to say to the media that he would have to be blown away to trade Laughton, or he might keep Risto because he is playing so well and would leave a big hole in the lineup. That's nothing more than GM speak. Briere is building up his assets so he can get the best return possible. The art of the deal is to act like you don't want to trade your players. Don't fall for it.

He is ready both physically and mentally. I think there is no chance he is going back to juniors after this year. Look, on a bad team he is still putting up alomost 1.4 pts/gm which to means he has nothing more to gain from playing in juniors. And yes, I do believe he has top 6 potential, and so do the Flyers and for good reason. The kid can do a lot more than skate!
- jd250

From what he showed in October, he was completely outside of his element. He should not have been playing those games as he was not ready at all. Dominating against 17-19 year olds is not the same as the NHL. He is not even 18.5 years old yet...there is no reason at all to rush him. It would be to his benefit to play in the AHL, but I am not sure where he falls, as I think he would need another year in juniors before the AHL.

Look, I was p1ssed with the pick when Briere bypassed Buium for Luchenko. To me it was dumb to pass on a guy like Buium. What is done is done. I want what is best for player and his growth to become the best player he can be. I would love to see him beat expectations. But rushing him into the league just because you are so low on talent would be detrimental to the player.

Having Luchenko make the team next year is for what? Any draft picks from June probably aren't going to make the team, and in reality, we would be a few years away from starting to infuse all the young talent. There is absolutely no reason to rush Luchenko and potentialy damage his growth.

I want him to be a success, not another mehhh draft pick.

So Cooper doesn't play TK a whole lot in this game and that means TK is not at the same level? What about the year he has had with the Flyers? Does that count? Did you know TK has been sick and didn't even practice with the US team before the game? Thankfully, Don Sweeny knows what he is watching.
- jd250

Yep, I know that he has been mysteriously sick for the day after the Eagles won the superbowl.

TK made the team...he is one of less than a 100 players in the league in this tournament. I am not saying he doesn't deserve to be there. There are top players on every team, and there are players who are filling out 4th line duties that do not normally play 4th line.

When it comes to TK, he is simple not as talented as the players above him. That is not a knock on TK, but a statement to the talent of the team. In this tournament with these players, TK is a 4th liner, playing lower minutes.

Think about it. If Briere was offered a 1st round pick for any of his veteran players, he would take it in a heartbeat. No one offered Briere a 1st round pick. Look, Briere is going to say to the media that he would have to be blown away to trade Laughton, or he might keep Risto because he is playing so well and would leave a big hole in the lineup. That's nothing more than GM speak. Briere is building up his assets so he can get the best return possible. The art of the deal is to act like you don't want to trade your players. Don't fall for it.
- jd250

I never said he was offered a first for anyone but Laughton. That rumor has been out there for 18 months now.

The rest should have been traded for what they can get, sign UFA guys to fill the bottom lines and march forward.

Instead, Briere keeps resigning these players to multi year extensions, with higher than needed cap hits, and some with trade protection. It isn't needed when you are just trying to fill spots on a rebuilding team. It's bad cap management.

So Cooper doesn't play TK a whole lot in this game and that means TK is not at the same level? What about the year he has had with the Flyers? Does that count? Did you know TK has been sick and didn't even practice with the US team before the game? Thankfully, Don Sweeny knows what he is watching.
- jd250

Put tk on a team that has talented players and you see where he ranks. He is a good player on a bad team --- hence first line minutes and about a PPG average. On a talented team he sees the least amount of ice and could be a healthy scratch

As expected, sanheim will now draw into the lineup. To me, very positive assessment of sanheim from the outside.



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I talked to some people during the beanpot this past week and this was one of the potential trades that was talked about in passing when I asked about the Flyers. Not sure there is any merit to it, but it makes sense on a few levels. Winnipeg is very interested in Laughton.
- jd250

Okay, thank you. Would be a great move if it happened.

Okay, thank you. Would be a great move if it happened.
- Laceemup88

Now that I remember that Yager plays for the Peg now
, I would do that deal in a heartbeat.

I talked to some people during the beanpot this past week and this was one of the potential trades that was talked about in passing when I asked about the Flyers. Not sure there is any merit to it, but it makes sense on a few levels. Winnipeg is very interested in Laughton.
- jd250

What people did you talk to?