Going from 6 to 3 via trade is a long shot.
- mickel25

Let's face it... unless the Flyers luck into the #1 pick, moving up from whatever draft position they find themselves in will be a difficult, if not impossible task.

Going from 6 to 3 via trade is a long shot.
- mickel25

This is not a generational draft class, and the first drop off in talent is projected to be around the 8th pick (according to Les Cohen). So if you are holding the 3rd pick and you are offered another 1st round pick or a roster player to move down 3 spots and still get a player with equal talent, I think its at least possible.

I think the Flyers will finish with the 6th or 7th pick also, unless of course they get some lottery luck. They could finsih even lower with some additional deadline moves, like moving Laughton. With the picks and players they have I think the Flyers will be able to move up to 3 and get Hagens who is the player they are targeting. Then with the possibility of Luchanko and Bonk joining the team, and Michkov and Andrae with a year under their belts, we will at least have something to look forward to next season. This is one possible path.
- jd250

If they are able to move up one would logically think Jett or Bpnk would be part of said package.

If they Flyers did the smart thing from jump
Street they wouldn’t be in this spot hoping for luck once again.

You are delusional imo.

What defensive assists do they have with any real value? Bonk is all. You claims this is now a weak draft so those late 1st may not have the value you want them to have.

Draft and develop that #1 center. Have zero faith they can identify such player where they will pick and zero faith they can develop one.
- furio16

Bonk, Andrae, York and Drysdale all have good value right now.

Briere signed them, then resigned them, and refused to trade the one that his previous boss extended -- having 4 players on your roster, that are not high end talent types makes one think that the gm might not be the smartest man in the room, or at the very least he is a tad bit gullible
- corduroy

Wait, Briere just moved out Frost and Farabee, the latter was signed by Fletcher for 6 years. Briere was also close to dumping Sanheim before last season. So I don't think your assessment of Briere is grounded in facts.

Going from 6 to 3 via trade is a long shot.
- mickel25

I cannot remember the last time a team traded out of the top 3. The only example I can think of was TB trading with Clarke and the Flyers who drafted Pitkanen. I just hope they do not get laser focused with center with their first 1st rd pick. I do believe the NHL is headed in the next few years many teams will have an internal budget which does not match the ceiling of the cap. I expect more player movement.

I am going to leave the sarcasm out and try to have a conversation. I think the 1C will most likely come from drafting and developing. There is a possibility of an offer sheet now the Flyers have some cap space (projected $23M next year currently), but I think the chances of this are low. The potential 1D could come from a trade. The Flyers have some defensive assets and picks to move in exchange for a young prospect that has a 1D ceiling. For example, Clarke from LA if the Kings decide their window is now and they go for it.
- jd250

I will ask again - what team trades away a 1D?

How many high end talented centers in their PRIME make it to FA? Generally zero - the players you find in FA are the Kevin hayes's of the world -- how did that work out last time?

The Kings are not shopping Clarke so just stop it already - This guy is as tied in to the Kings as Bill is with the Flyers

"Mayor’s Manor has checked in with multiple sources within the organization, and from everything we’ve gathered over the past 48 hours, Clarke is not available — and we were told as much rather emphatically."

https://mayorsmanor.com/2...-via-trade-with-la-kings/

What players have the Flyers successfully developed? TK - who else in the last 12 years. The list in the link below is not pretty

https://en.wikipedia.org/...elphia_Flyers_draft_picks

I am going to leave the sarcasm out and try to have a conversation. I think the 1C will most likely come from drafting and developing. There is a possibility of an offer sheet now the Flyers have some cap space (projected $23M next year currently), but I think the chances of this are low. The potential 1D could come from a trade. The Flyers have some defensive assets and picks to move in exchange for a young prospect that has a 1D ceiling. For example, Clarke from LA if the Kings decide their window is now and they go for it.
- jd250

Over paying and wasting assets on an offer sheet would be hysterical really. Draft and develop you say.

Bottom line this delusional franchise will continue to spin their wheels at best. There is no end in sight for them to turn it around. Just wonder how long they give these 3 stooges to find success. Then seeing who the replacements will end up being.

Bonk, Andrae, York and Drysdale all have good value right now.
- jd250

Please define good value. Book and York have some no doubt. Other 2 none where it is worthy moving.

Wait, Briere just moved out Frost and Farabee, the latter was signed by Fletcher for 6 years. Briere was also close to dumping Sanheim before last season. So I don't think your assessment of Briere is grounded in facts.
- jd250

Look who Briere wanted to dump Sanheim for, great judge of talent.

I will ask again - what team trades away a 1D?

How many high end talented centers in their PRIME make it to FA? Generally zero - the players you find in FA are the Kevin hayes's of the world -- how did that work out last time?

The Kings are not shopping Clarke so just stop it already - This guy is as tied in to the Kings as Bill is with the Flyers

"Mayor’s Manor has checked in with multiple sources within the organization, and from everything we’ve gathered over the past 48 hours, Clarke is not available — and we were told as much rather emphatically."

https://mayorsmanor.com/2...-via-trade-with-la-kings/

What players have the Flyers successfully developed? TK - who else in the last 12 years. The list in the link below is not pretty

https://en.wikipedia.org/...elphia_Flyers_draft_picks
- corduroy

They have developed Laughton

Wait, Briere just moved out Frost and Farabee, the latter was signed by Fletcher for 6 years. Briere was also close to dumping Sanheim before last season. So I don't think your assessment of Briere is grounded in facts.
- jd250

Who was chuckles understudy when Farabe was signed to that extension?

I am talking The Room™ Cates, rp and gh. All the same player -- 4th line guys that are a dime a dozen for league minimum every summer

Dumb move by a dumb gm

Bonk, Andrae, York and Drysdale all have good value right now.
- jd250

Are you looking to go scorched earth and have no pipeline of talent?

And the Flyers have Jett Luchanko who can be every bit as good if not better than Moore and Smith. And mind you I love Will Smith, he is a local kid from Concord MA. The Flyers need to get a 1C and 1D. Briere acknowledges this and will look to either draft or trade for one or both. Again, what is wrong with this? Rebuilds don't happen overnight. Fletcher left this team and franchise in a complete mess. I believe Torts when he said where they started was not even at the foundation, but at the footers of the foundation. You all have to be patient. Let's see how this off season goes. I believe the Flyers will look very different going into next season.
- jd250

No, Luchenko is not anywhere near as good as those 2. He is a 3c, maybe a 2c if he excels.

They have developed Laughton
- furio16

The Room™ can not be developed -- he is what development strives to be

Are you looking to go scorched earth and have no pipeline of talent?
- WhiskeyMan

Have you seen the ahl roster? The team's talent pipeline is pretty empty

Completely irrelevant. This trade had notihng to do with what was coming back. This was completely about freeing cap space and getting something, anything back if possible. The Flyers were not going to pay Frost, and with good reason. So getting rid of him now was the right decision. Farabee was completely overpaid for the player he turned out to be, so the Flyers got out from under his $10M+ cap hit, and picked up a 2nd round pick in the process. It was a good trade for both teams. Kuz will make more money in the KHL next year, and Pelletier is a bottom 6 forward that may or may not stick with the Flyers moving forward.
- jd250

Which is completely useless as a pick.You have stated repeatedly that getting a first for Risto would be in the 20's, and players picked there rarely make the NHL so you say there is no point in trading Risto for that. So a 2nd rounder would have harder odds than that to make the NHL so that pick is just about completly useless.
According to your logic.

I am going to leave the sarcasm out and try to have a conversation. I think the 1C will most likely come from drafting and developing. There is a possibility of an offer sheet now the Flyers have some cap space (projected $23M next year currently), but I think the chances of this are low. The potential 1D could come from a trade. The Flyers have some defensive assets and picks to move in exchange for a young prospect that has a 1D ceiling. For example, Clarke from LA if the Kings decide their window is now and they go for it.
- jd250

Not available. You have been told this, yet you continue to say he is an option.

I will ask again - what team trades away a 1D?

How many high end talented centers in their PRIME make it to FA? Generally zero - the players you find in FA are the Kevin hayes's of the world -- how did that work out last time?

The Kings are not shopping Clarke so just stop it already - This guy is as tied in to the Kings as Bill is with the Flyers

"Mayor’s Manor has checked in with multiple sources within the organization, and from everything we’ve gathered over the past 48 hours, Clarke is not available — and we were told as much rather emphatically."

https://mayorsmanor.com/2...-via-trade-with-la-kings/

What players have the Flyers successfully developed? TK - who else in the last 12 years. The list in the link below is not pretty

https://en.wikipedia.org/...elphia_Flyers_draft_picks
- corduroy

Clarke is not going anywhere. He is the heir apparent to Doughty.

Bonk, Andrae, York and Drysdale all have good value right now.
- jd250

Drysdale will not bring anything back of substance. Andrae is the same...

Clarke is not going anywhere. He is the heir apparent to Doughty.
- Flyfly

Dont tell me -- tell the fanboy 250

Look who Briere wanted to dump Sanheim for, great judge of talent.
- furio16

thank goodness that trade never happened.

Dont tell me -- tell the fanboy 250
- corduroy

LOL! You can try and tell him but he will never go against Uncle Danny and Papa Torts

thank goodness that trade never happened.
- Flyfly

Imagine what Krug could have done for the PP tho

Imagine what Krug could have done for the PP tho
- corduroy