As in $1.75AAV ?
I'll smoke to that.

- rpeters01

Puff..Puff.. Give Man... stop phucking up the rotation.

Capwages has his projected contract at 5X$5.5M. I don't know how much you have to smoke to get to that number, but I'm not going to try it personally.

I can see something like 2X $3.5M?
- Chunk

I wonder if they think Broberg offer sheet is a comp since he literally did nothing to get that offer from the Blues

Be crazy to pay him more than Vlasic who's hands down a better defenseman

I wonder if they think Broberg offer sheet is a comp since he literally did nothing to get that offer from the Blues

Be crazy to pay him more than Vlasic who's hands down a better defenseman
- BetweenTheDots

Yeah, there should be no way he gets that much. I think they are listing compriables as Adam Larsson, Olli Maatta, Oscar Kelfbom, Kaiden Ghule which is a bit optimistic.

Blackhawk Lineup Timeline of their appearances...

Right Wing Center Left Wing

Jack Pridham Julius Sumpf
Behm, Nathan Mason West. Vaclav Nestrasil
Spellacy, AJ Boisvert, Sacha Marek Vanacker
Gavin Hayes Ludwinski, Paul. Misiak, Martin

Lardis, Nick
Savoie, Samuel
Aiden Thompson Colton Dach
Roman Kantserov. Oliver Moore
Frondell, Anton Ryan Greene
Lafferty Sam
Slaggert, Landon ?Reichel Lukas?
Mikheyev, Ilya Nazar, Frankie Ryan Donato
Foligno, Nick Jason Richardinson Andre Burakovsky Jason Richardinson
Bertuzzi, Tyler Bedard, Conner Teravainen, Teuvo

Capwages has his projected contract at 5X$5.5M. I don't know how much you have to smoke to get to that number, but I'm not going to try it personally.

I can see something like 2X $3.5M?
- Chunk

Loved CapFriendly and enjoy having CapWages after CF was purchased by Capitals (I believe) but they have a ways to go before they're a mirror image of CF. With that being said, happy one year anniversary to CapWages and I thank them everyday for not having to use that dreadful ancient site PuckPedia for info lol

As in $1.75AAV ?
I'll smoke to that.

- rpeters01

No, he meant $3.5 per (AAV) which is probably about accurate. Kaiser should get a bit north of what Soda received. Think his best attribute is that he can play up and down the pairings with anybody.
He's seemingly good at everything and if you go to see a game in person, you'll like him even more - he rarely sits down after a shift for more than 20-30 secs and when he knows he's about to change, he's up at the boards seething like a mad dog waiting to be unleashed. Kaiser really leveled up the last 5-6 weeks of the season and happy to see it!

No, he meant $3.5 per (AAV) which is probably about accurate. Kaiser should get a bit north of what Soda received. Think his best attribute is that he can play up and down the pairings with anybody.
He's seemingly good at everything and if you go to see a game in person, you'll like him even more - he rarely sits down after a shift for more than 20-30 secs and when he knows he's about to change, he's up at the boards seething like a mad dog waiting to be unleashed. Kaiser really leveled up the last 5-6 weeks of the season and happy to see it!
- Assman22

Yeah, for sure he was one of the most active guys on the back end. I think he's shot up the Hawks' blueline rankings.

Nice article about Bedard's offseason.

https://chicago.suntimes....x-contract-talks-panthers

Dots will be happy to hear that he's going to a stiffer stick (up to 75 from 70 last year). Main purpose was to improve on face-offs it seems.

Nice article about Bedard's offseason.

https://chicago.suntimes....x-contract-talks-panthers

Dots will be happy to hear that he's going to a stiffer stick (up to 75 from 70 last year). Main purpose was to improve on face-offs it seems.
- Chunk

I think it was interesting to hear to that Blashill has been exchanging texts with him about the games in the playoffs.

Nice article about Bedard's offseason.

https://chicago.suntimes....x-contract-talks-panthers

Dots will be happy to hear that he's going to a stiffer stick (up to 75 from 70 last year). Main purpose was to improve on face-offs it seems.
- Chunk

It does make me happy, because they are looking at everything to help a player be the best he can be.

This is not your 2000s Blackhawk hockey team that lucked itself into becoming one of the most dominant teams. This is a calculated well organized approach to not only amassing the best talent they can get their hands on, it's also focusing on everything of each prospect to help them become the best versions of themselves to be better hockey players.

Mark Lazerus says there's no way you can build a hockey team through the draft, i say no one has ever committed to it 100% like the Blackhawks have since 2022 and counting.

Where is this new and improved Hockey Buzz we were promised? Where are the blog writers? More of the same from EK!

So... you're saying this is Groundhog Day ???

It does make me happy, because they are looking at everything to help a player be the best he can be.

This is not your 2000s Blackhawk hockey team that lucked itself into becoming one of the most dominant teams. This is a calculated well organized approach to not only amassing the best talent they can get their hands on, it's also focusing on everything of each prospect to help them become the best versions of themselves to be better hockey players.

Mark Lazerus says there's no way you can build a hockey team through the draft, i say no one has ever committed to it 100% like the Blackhawks have since 2022 and counting.
- BetweenTheDots

You will be banned if you keep this up.

You will be banned if you keep this up.
- rpeters01

I have to say as a Chicago sports fan what KD is doing is refreshing, if he can't trade for a young and up and coming forward in the league, he just trades up in the draft for better talent.

In the last 4 years KD has made the Blackhawks the best 18 to 21 year old hockey team in the league. Which is an excellent start to any rebuild

It does make me happy, because they are looking at everything to help a player be the best he can be.

This is not your 2000s Blackhawk hockey team that lucked itself into becoming one of the most dominant teams. This is a calculated well organized approach to not only amassing the best talent they can get their hands on, it's also focusing on everything of each prospect to help them become the best versions of themselves to be better hockey players.

Mark Lazerus says there's no way you can build a hockey team through the draft, i say no one has ever committed to it 100% like the Blackhawks have since 2022 and counting.
- BetweenTheDots

How did they "luck" themselves into being dominant?

How did they "luck" themselves into being dominant?
- Chunk

Hossa signing. Maybe not luck. But he could have signed elsewhere. In that sense’s they were lucky he signed with the Hawks.

I think to win championships in any team sports you have to get a few breaks.

Kane’s OT winner in Philly was a softie?
17 seconds?

Hossa signing. Maybe not luck. But he could have signed elsewhere. In that sense’s they were lucky he signed with the Hawks.

I think to win championships in any team sports you have to get a few breaks.

Kane’s OT winner in Philly was a softie?
17 seconds?
- Ztra

Sure, I don't have any argument against needing luck to win the whole thing. Dots was implying they lucked into being a good team.

Hossa said he signed with the Hawks specifically because he saw them as an up-and-coming competitive team. Indeed he could have signed with anyone, but the Hawks created the conditions for him wanting to join.

KD isn't going to be able to attract high end talent in FA until they start actually winning again, unless someone really just wants to play for Chicago. For him to acquire anyone in the short term, it will need to be via trade.

Hossa signing. Maybe not luck. But he could have signed elsewhere. In that sense’s they were lucky he signed with the Hawks.

I think to win championships in any team sports you have to get a few breaks.

Kane’s OT winner in Philly was a softie?
17 seconds?
- Ztra

I think the Hawks, it wasn't really about luck, but just the huge shift in the vision for the team. Ownership of the team was really stingy and didn't care to do much to build up the team. Once that changed, they opened up the wallets and made the organization one players would want to play for, things were so much better. If that change hadn't happened, we probably would have seen star players continue to leave for greener pastures.

How did they "luck" themselves into being dominant?
- Chunk

Their scouting department was terrible, they made no effort to get multiple first round picks and as bad as this sounds dollar Bill leaving the organization. Bowman getting sick and his dad becoming part of the org. Yes very very lucky since they were not a professionally run organization

Their scouting department was terrible, they made no effort to get multiple first round picks and as bad as this sounds dollar Bill leaving the organization. Bowman getting sick and his dad becoming part of the org. Yes very very lucky since they were not a professionally run organization
- BetweenTheDots

Yet they won three cups with a core the “terrible “ scouting department drafted? What KD is doing hasn’t been done on this scale before. There’s no guarantee it will or won’t work. You are the only person I’ve seen who fully believes trading away all talent, intentionally tanking, accumulating and drafting a poop ton of prospects is the perfect way to build a team. Most Hawks fans are cautiously optimistic but realistic about this method of team building. As I’ve said before you and Steve from Mopeville are the two extremes, he thinks KD can’t do anything right and you think KD can’t do anything wrong. Obviously I’m hoping you’re right but I’m also unsure how it will work.

Their scouting department was terrible, they made no effort to get multiple first round picks and as bad as this sounds dollar Bill leaving the organization. Bowman getting sick and his dad becoming part of the org. Yes very very lucky since they were not a professionally run organization
- BetweenTheDots

???

They drafted Keith, Seabrook, Brouwer, Bickell, Buff, Kane, Toews, Hjalmarsson, Crawford. They signed Hossa, Campbell, Oduya, etc..

Sure they signed some duds too but every FO does. Which aspect of scouting was deficient?

They didn't make any effort to get multiple first round picks and they still built a monster.

???

They drafted Keith, Seabrook, Brouwer, Bickell, Buff, Kane, Toews, Hjalmarsson, Crawford. They signed Hossa, Campbell, Oduya, etc..

Sure they signed some duds too but every FO does. Which aspect of scouting was deficient?

They didn't make any effort to get multiple first round picks and they still built a monster.
- Chunk

They traded for Sharp, too. Hossa was arguably the greatest FA signing in NHL history. Scotty thought that Campbell was a bad signing, from what I read. But context is probably important, as in who else was available and at what price.

Drafting wise, while striking gold with Toews and Kane, they also struck out on the rest of the picks in those two drafts. 2008 yielded only Ben Smith, and 2005 yielded only Hjalmarsson. 2009 was only Marcus Kruger. There were a number front office changes over that decade, also, so it's hard to make a blanket statement about it. The only constant prior to the start of the dynasty was Dollar Bill.

Yet they won three cups with a core the “terrible “ scouting department drafted? What KD is doing hasn’t been done on this scale before. There’s no guarantee it will or won’t work. You are the only person I’ve seen who fully believes trading away all talent, intentionally tanking, accumulating and drafting a poop ton of prospects is the perfect way to build a team. Most Hawks fans are cautiously optimistic but realistic about this method of team building. As I’ve said before you and Steve from Mopeville are the two extremes, he thinks KD can’t do anything right and you think KD can’t do anything wrong. Obviously I’m hoping you’re right but I’m also unsure how it will work.
- paulr

I still think KD will trade some assets for NHL players, just not right now unless its something that you just can't pass up.

I too am on board with the complete rebuild, though i won't be if they don't trade for the "missing piece" or two when the time is right.

so the next question will be "when is the time right?" For me, not until a decent amount of the kids come up and you see what you have. I'm more patient than i've been with these type of things in the pass, or maybe i've just learned to not stress over things you can't control.

Even though Hossa was a monster move, the dynasty was mostly drafted. While i don't think they win 3 cups without Hossa, I also believe there were 5 others that they don't win 3 cups without, and most if not all of those, were drafted

Going to require more patience but i'm good, and the more exciting part of rebuild is coming up as guys move up. Honestly i was more excited last year with Nazar than any other aspect, including Bedard.

They traded for Sharp, too. Hossa was arguably the greatest FA signing in NHL history. Scotty thought that Campbell was a bad signing, from what I read. But context is probably important, as in who else was available and at what price.

Drafting wise, while striking gold with Toews and Kane, they also struck out on the rest of the picks in those two drafts. 2008 yielded only Ben Smith, and 2005 yielded only Hjalmarsson. 2009 was only Marcus Kruger. There were a number front office changes over that decade, also, so it's hard to make a blanket statement about it. The only constant prior to the start of the dynasty was Dollar Bill.
- 333inthe3rd

I'm not going to look up the years, but they didn't do that bad drafting later, TT, Kevin Hayes, Hartman all were let go or unsigned, but ended up pretty good for being drafted later.

Its just Q hated young guys .........................

. I still think KD will trade some assets for NHL players, just not right now unless its something that you just can't pass up.

I too am on board with the complete rebuild, though i won't be if they don't trade for the "missing piece" or two when the time is right.

so the next question will be "when is the time right?" For me, not until a decent amount of the kids come up and you see what you have. I'm more patient than i've been with these type of things in the pass, or maybe i've just learned to not stress over things you can't control.

Even though Hossa was a monster move, the dynasty was mostly drafted. While i don't think they win 3 cups without Hossa, I also believe there were 5 others that they don't win 3 cups without, and most if not all of those, were drafted

Going to require more patience but i'm good, and the more exciting part of rebuild is coming up as guys move up. Honestly i was more excited last year with Nazar than any other aspect, including Bedard.
- vabeachbear

I agree, I think he’ll eventually try to look for an established player if he isn’t looking already. I also expect him to get a little risky giving up assets for the, as you say, right player.