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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Friday @ 8:59 PM ET
Could say the same last draft but he still did it for Vanacker.
- Assman22


I don't recall Wiz saying that last year
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Friday @ 9:03 PM ET
From Lines.com - Anton Frondell

Ranks near the top of his draft class because of his being a smooth skater and scorer who already has shown he is a complete package. Has a strong hockey understanding of his role in all three zones, and has speed, size, hands, puck handling ability. His long powerful stride eat up ice and his strong vision and long reach and natural offensive skills. He buries his shots consistently with Djurgärdens and not more than six feet, he always comes back deep in his end lowering strong hits to separate defenders from pucks. On the attack, he doesn’t need to break stride to catch and shoot and can snap off hard shots in full flight. A natural sniper and skater who also has a deadly one timer, but he also ranks up there as one of the finest defensive centers in the class, so he will help some NHL team in some way if he is a top six winger, end up in a third line center role as a pro. His upside is a top line centre based on the power in his skating, shot and two-way presence and smarts. If you use your precious early draft pick on him, you probably adding a power forward. You have reservations about his skating agility, his vision, playmaking, and foot skills, or that his defensive game like most prospects, is still a work in progress. Frondell’s boots have to be part a positive conversation that makes a NHL team draft him because I am they would have liked more views where he displayed higher playmaking ability, and for that matter, a much higher level of explosiveness in many areas, from transition to heavy battle zones. There are certainly not many players as physically advanced, with his best tool being his shot and leg drive. So if he lacks elusiveness, and an explosive gear along with an impressive. power skating, you end up pairing him with linemates who can drive play and open space which, he at this juncture, cannot. While I am piling on, I would expect him to add keener attack ideas, unless I am over exaggerating the his attack skills as an issue.

–Bill Płaczek–

- totem


Thank you totem, for throwing taht up.

Did you see YOUR profiles I put on Lines.com
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

Friday @ 9:04 PM ET
Thank you totem, for throwing taht up.

Did you see YOUR profiles I put on Lines.com

- wiz1901


Yes, saw those, thanks.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Friday @ 9:05 PM ET
He’s going to be a good one.
- paulr


a good left wing.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Friday @ 9:07 PM ET
IMO this was the safest pick KD could have made and that it's for a centerman with size is a good thing. .........

This could be tin foil hat stuff but as the pick sunk in I wondered if this is a sign KD is for the first time feeling some heat or doubt? ......

Is he wondering are Bedard and Nazar NHL centers, especially a 1 or 2C? Is a grouping of skill consisting of Kancerov, Bedard, Nazar, Moore, Lardis too smallish as a whole? Then does he think can Frondell safely fill those 2 holes at least to some degree?

Does he concede Desnoyers has a higher ceiling, but he needs the assurance the floor and size that Frondell brings to his pipeline puzzle?

Maybe tin foil stuff, and maybe KD feels no pressure at all, but IMO the drafting of Frondell starts a phase of more critical analysis for KD.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Friday @ 9:08 PM ET
I think as we move into the 10-20 range the trades will begin.
- SaskHawkFan


I just think standing pat is a way to get two more really good developmental kids.


BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Friday @ 9:11 PM ET
I just think standing pat is a way to get two more really good developmental kids.
- wiz1901


You think they still draft goalie with the 25th pick?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Friday @ 9:12 PM ET
IMO this was the safest pick KD could have made and that it's for a centerman with size is a good thing. .........

This could be tin foil hat stuff but as the pick sunk in I wondered if this is a sign KD is for the first time feeling some heat or doubt? ......

Is he wondering are Bedard and Nazar NHL centers, especially a 1 or 2C? Is a grouping of skill consisting of Kancerov, Bedard, Nazar, Moore, Lardis too smallish as a whole? Then does he think can Frondell safely fill those 2 holes at least to some degree?

Does he concede Desnoyers has a higher ceiling, but he needs the assurance the floor and size that Frondell brings to his pipeline puzzle?

Maybe tin foil stuff, and maybe KD feels no pressure at all, but IMO the drafting of Frondell starts a phase of more critical analysis for KD.

- Mr Ricochet


You say i dig my heels in.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Friday @ 9:13 PM ET
Frondell said he is going to try to make the Hawks out of camp and if not go back to Europe for the year.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Friday @ 9:13 PM ET
Bit of a reach for Kindel based on predictions.

Small but sure scores a lot.

https://www.eliteprospect...er/576985/benjamin-kindel

- totem


I had Kindel at slot #18.
This is how I see it:
Undersized winger with Calgary of the WHL. Posseses a strong body core, which can attribute for his strong skating and jump. An elite level soccer player at 16, he uses his feet very well in board battles and all over the sheet. He is looking for teammates so that he can pass the puck. Has a strong two way game and he has a high end tool box which allowed him to be a a creative playmaker as well as a scorer. If it was your first time watching hockey, you are going to notice him as the skilled guy with the work boots on. Never take a shift off; his size has not deters his success in the dub. Excellent forechecker who is always battling for pucks. Thinks the game really well, uses his offensive gifts and likes the to be the one with the bicuit. He will need to continue adding core strength and adjusting to hockey athletics and techniques, and to the nuances he needs to understand the detail he needs to implement in his game. He has room to grow in all phases, and so far we are seeing glimpses. Could play the centre position.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Friday @ 9:14 PM ET
Think Del Mastro will be really good in a couple of years, not sure what Chicago does with all those defensemen.
- totem

Fixed!
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Friday @ 9:16 PM ET
Hensley and Eklund are still available. As much as I like Spence it won’t surprise me if KD moves up he takes Eklund.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Friday @ 9:16 PM ET
ten picks to go until #25 and I see SEVEN guys who I would love to drop....
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

Friday @ 9:17 PM ET
Cootes gone. Solid for VAN. Like this player a lot, better that his stats, Seattle WHL was not so good this year.
Revco38
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wherever I leave my hat
Joined: 07.26.2006

Friday @ 9:21 PM ET
Hensley and Eklund are still available. As much as I like Spence it won’t surprise me if KD moves up he takes Eklund.
- paulr


Eklund can just flat out score.

There goes that idea...
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Friday @ 9:21 PM ET
I don't recall Wiz saying that last year
- BetweenTheDots



I think I just said it again a posts back.

You are getting two potential players in 25 and 33, and I simply cannot believe Eklund and Carbonneau are there.

These are kids who don't look like 4th liners, scores.

Watch the Isles will take them...nah, they got a take one of those defenseman Not Hensler but Reid or Kashawn.[/img]
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Friday @ 9:21 PM ET
Cootes gone. Solid for VAN. Like this player a lot, better that his stats, Seattle WHL was not so good this year.
- totem

Another guy who is hard to play against and doesn’t quit.
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Friday @ 9:22 PM ET
Cootes gone. Solid for VAN. Like this player a lot, better that his stats, Seattle WHL was not so good this year.
- totem


Solid pick for Vancouver Agreed.
Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Friday @ 9:25 PM ET
ten picks to go until #25 and I see SEVEN guys who I would love to drop....
- wiz1901

Name the 7. We need to know who to be hoping for!

We need a few teams to make surprise picks of less highly rated players so one of those 7 fall to the Hawks!
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Friday @ 9:30 PM ET
This format is boring and i'm really having a hard time being engaged.
Revco38
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wherever I leave my hat
Joined: 07.26.2006

Friday @ 9:32 PM ET
Aitcheson is a beast. Good picks by NYI
Revco38
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wherever I leave my hat
Joined: 07.26.2006

Friday @ 9:34 PM ET
This format is boring and i'm really having a hard time being engaged.
- SaskHawkFan



Trying to mimic the NBA and attract the casual/younger fan, but no one knows these players. Just like baseball- too young, not on TV like Football or Basketball college players. I get it, $ talks, but not engaging and BORING to be honest.
Ztra
Joined: 06.21.2018

Friday @ 9:34 PM ET
I’m hoping a lot of dmen are picked between now and 25.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Friday @ 9:37 PM ET
Name the 7. We need to know who to be hoping for!y



We need a few teams to make surprise picks of less highly rated players so one of those 7 fall to the Hawks!

- Ztra


I dunno if any acres what I think, but here goes:


Ecklund adn Kashawn are gone. so down to seven

Carbonneau

Shane Vansaghi is going to be a bottom six impact players.

Billy Zonnon

Czech Valclav Nestril

The goalie Ravensbergen

the Russian Daniil Prokhorov is a giant punisher whose had hands and is far from ready but...

Scorer Cullen Potter who is not big..Chicagolands Ryker Lee the same.

Why not Mason West???
Revco38
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wherever I leave my hat
Joined: 07.26.2006

Friday @ 9:39 PM ET
I dunno if any acres what I think, but here goes:

Ecklund adn Kashawn are gone.

Shane Vansaghi is going to be a bottom six impact players.

Billy Zonnon

Czech Valclav Nestril

The goalie Ravensbergen

the Russian Daniil Prokhorov is a giant punisher whose had hands and is far from ready but...

Scorer Cullen Potter who is not big..Chicagolands Ryker Lee the same.

- wiz1901


Think Nestril lasts to Rd 2. Would not mind Prokhorov- need to wait on him, but think he has most upside of the remaining options.
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