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wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Thursday @ 4:41 PM ET
I don't think mine is available anywhere now.

btw that footage above....at the 13 minute of it, you really get to see what this guy could become as he develops, a big slick scorer to addition to the size and edge.

Daniil Prokhorov
Another tall forward who plays a physically imposing style creating chances in the offensive zone. He basically is tough to play against. He is strong on the puck, and a quite agile and mobile at his size. He really isn’t the play driver who entered the zone with dazzle, looking for his next outlet. He holds off checkers, plays effectively on the move and when he is in the cycle. He is not going create looks with smart reads and thread needle passes; he beats you with aggressive play while he has the puck. He is good in maintaining possession and he loves crashing the front. May end up being the most formidable grad of the class, owing to the fact he wants to make noise in his shifts by momentum changing contact that service notice. Still has much work to do in improving his vision and sense, and improving the many things unrefined in his current game; you want him seeing the openings and options he has connecting with his teammates in the attack zone. When he learns his position better defensively,there will be a more defined reason why an NHL team might take him at anytime in the draft, because, he does use his violent checking and physicality to set the tone. He may not bring lightning to every shift, but in the bigs, I am pretty sure you are getting the thunder.

- wiz1901

Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Thursday @ 4:41 PM ET
They do, so do the Hawks. I would have taken Kreider for the two years remaining on his contract, he scored >20 goals on a down season this past year. A trade for a young forward plus Kreider and I’d be happy. I’d rather not commit to a long term contract in free agency for a 28/29 year old, and that’s the current age of most first time free agents. Would I take Donato over Kreider, probably, the issue is that Donato wants a minimum of four years. Kreider fits the timeline, in two years guys like Vanacker and Boisvert will be ready, along with the 3rd OA.
- Angotti

Krieder has some back issue I believe. Meh to me. Maybe leaving the mess in NYwill spur him on but LBH, he was part of the reason for the mess with his play.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Thursday @ 4:42 PM ET
Kinda. If they resign all of their UFAs/RFAs to their projections they are barely over at $74M. Likely, they are banking on Kreider coming back better hoping he can stay healthy.

Wouldn't surprise me if he reverted back closer to form for the last two years of his contract.

- Chunk


Will he be on Toews line?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Thursday @ 4:43 PM ET
Hmmm…I think I go Donato over Dutch. If Donato comes anywhere close to what he did last year especially.

Duchene can still play but weren’t there some character issues attributed to him in the past? Maybe he’s cleaned that up, Idk.

If Ehlers can stay healthy I don’t mind that and would sign him and let Donato walk.

There is some speculation that Donato reaches UFA and someone pays something the Hawks aren’t comfortable offering. In which case I think you’d have to be fine to let him walk.

- HawkintheD

I want nothing to do with Duchene. He looked like a player time in catching up to at the end of the season and was non-existent in the POs
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Thursday @ 6:35 PM ET
Krieder has some back issue I believe. Meh to me. Maybe leaving the mess in NYwill spur him on but LBH, he was part of the reason for the mess with his play.
- Elbows15

He was definitely part of the problem, however their defensive group was horrid. I don’t understand all of these teams that load up on offense and forget to build a diversified defensive group that has stay at home Dmen, as well as Dmen that can push the puck up the ice.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Thursday @ 6:44 PM ET
That’s the other reason I’d keep him if they can. Also supposed to be a good guy in the locker room.
- HawkintheD

Sign Donato 1 year $16M fixes floor problem eazy peazy.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Thursday @ 6:45 PM ET
He was definitely part of the problem, however their defensive group was horrid. I don’t understand all of these teams that load up on offense and forget to build a diversified defensive group that has stay at home Dmen, as well as Dmen that can push the puck up the ice.
- Angotti

They have never been particularly good 5 v 5 and their PP has cratered. Fox, Mika, Krieder were not good last season. Like, at all.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Thursday @ 8:45 PM ET
Talk about the Oilers being undisciplined, yikes
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Thursday @ 8:46 PM ET
They have never been particularly good 5 v 5 and their PP has cratered. Fox, Mika, Krieder were not good last season. Like, at all.
- Elbows15


Personally there is no Ranger i want that's over 30.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Thursday @ 8:47 PM ET
They really should just bench Kane
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Thursday @ 9:44 PM ET
Personally there is no Ranger i want that's over 30.
- BetweenTheDots

I can't think of any I want. Besides. They signed/traded for poop, they can play poop.
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

Yesterday @ 12:59 AM ET
It won't be Chicago. Toews has already sold his place.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Yesterday @ 7:21 AM ET
Krieder has some back issue I believe. Meh to me. Maybe leaving the mess in NYwill spur him on but LBH, he was part of the reason for the mess with his play.
- Elbows15


I know he had vertigo, and jacked up his hand. Not sure what else he had.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Yesterday @ 9:29 AM ET
I know he had vertigo, and jacked up his hand. Not sure what else he had.
- Chunk

Not a fan of anyone on the Rangers either, however Kreider for two years would have been fine, he can skate north/south and can score. He’ll do okay with Q, and they’ll flip him for a better return than they gave up next year. Anyway, water under the bridge, let’s see what KD does in a couple of weeks.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Yesterday @ 9:38 AM ET
Agree, odds are good that Donato is gone. I still think the writing was on the wall when a deal wasn't done by early Feb to resign him.

I would rather have Donato over Duchene. Duchene higher skill, but he was beyond useless for Dallas when push came to shove in the playoffs. His game is ready to fall off a cliff pretty hard.

Donato on the other hand is working hard day in and day out. His effort on the ice this last season specifically was the right kind of example for the younger crowd to emulate.

- breadbag


Completely agree.
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Yesterday @ 12:17 PM ET
Personally there is no Ranger i want that's over 30.
- BetweenTheDots


How different will their environment be without Trouba and Kreider, and with JT Miller added? And will Sullivan's hiring change anything? The team has been less than the sum of its parts, obviously. When a group of talented players continues to underperform, that's more often a team dynamic issue versus the team is unfortunate to have a bunch of guys who aren't good anymore.

To your point, a GM has to get under the hood to figure out which guys can still play and are being held back by that situation, and won't bring the team's problems with them after they get traded. Not sure that level exists on my armchair GM app.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Yesterday @ 12:26 PM ET
I also agree Donato over Duchene.

RG.ORG: James Murphy reports that multiple sources claim the Boston Bruins are actively entertaining offers for their first-round pick (seventh overall) in this year’s draft. It’s believed GM Don Sweeney would like to move up into the top five in the draft order.


Forget what Corey says about the draft strength-depth, b/c most of what he says is parroting.

Standing pat Kyle gets three grade A propsets, and one is a for sure NHLer.

I doubt he gets offered the young journeyman NHL forward he desires in a trade for all or any of those slots.



The hawks are going to gets a good NHLer player, no McNeil, Boqvist, type player.

They won't be scooping up any players around 34 of the second round in the near future, kids line up or not. The goaltending enegrizing youth movement is going to see them rise some in the standings net year.

I think Kyle pads his farm with these, because #25 & 32 won't take you up where Boston wants out of, and the HAWKS ,trading with Bruins takes you out of that top forward tier, and midround there isn't any speciifc "developmnetal golden boy" like Justin Carbonneau, or Roger McQueen takes a nosedive to mid first round, and frankly, I doubt either falls.
They would have to be apple bobbing for one of the many developmental defenseman that are going to be in that first round area where those two picks could get the mid round.
I just think this is the year to select all three 3, 25, and 34.

There isn't enough delliniation in the guys you may mine at 25, and 34 and any a move higher in the first round than #15 or #16 ?

The guy that I would be interested in is Justin Carbonneau, but I think he goes much higher, and won't be sitting there gift wrapped for the Habs at #16.
Since I don't have access to my board until the new version is mitigated and relaunched, so I know i move him even higher up.

My point not enough there to do that 2 picks for 1.

Just select, because no team is looking to drop down when their mid-rounder is future help. Maybe a team desperate for a restock, but you call thise teams and they are gonna drive a harder bargain no matter what the "trade value" is set at on average.
A team has got to want to move out.


The 24th slot drafted Vanaker from slots 34 and 50 got the Hawks acquired
The 18th slot drafted Sacha Boisvert. Tampa Bay's first-round pick and Los Angeles and Vancouver's second-round picks all in 2024 to New York in exchange for a second-round pick in 2024 and this pick. In layman’s terms 2024 1st round pick (#20), 2024 2nd round pick (#54), and a 2024 2nd round pick (#61) were sent for slot #18. <—this was quite the over pay the hawks made, so let’s hope Sacha wants to sign here.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Yesterday @ 2:14 PM ET
Talk about the Oilers being undisciplined, yikes
- BetweenTheDots



YEAH, yikes !
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Yesterday @ 2:39 PM ET
YEAH,
- wiz1901yikes !


I stopped watching the game i can't believe the Oilers came back
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Yesterday @ 3:46 PM ET
I stopped watching the game i can't believe the Oilers came back
- BetweenTheDots

Twenty minutes doesn’t make a whole game.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Yesterday @ 4:44 PM ET
Spent the day trying to organize all my draft goalies, which I haven't really placed yet.

I actually think three go in the top 66 of mine, but there may be more from the 17 or so I have as ones tht will be taken after slot 66.

There are all these big goalies, ones that you select, and then patiece try and grow their games.

All in all that is still not enough for very team grab a developmental, so I am betting there will be more picked above there rankings.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Yesterday @ 5:06 PM ET
I know this has been discussed before but the 3rd overall pick Richardenson bertuzzi to Buffalo for bryram and perterka and the 9th pick and 2027 2nd. Buffalo moves up 6 spots and gets veteran help which is what they want Hawks moved down 6 spots but get immediate help now which also fits their timel line. Plus Hawks have the cap space to lock them both up for a long time.and who knows someone might fall that they had on their board in the top five. Other players or assets could be added or subtracted to.make the trade happen.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Yesterday @ 6:29 PM ET
Hawks and Bruins made a trade Chi receives Ryan Mast and 2025 7th round pick. Bos receives Victor Soderstrom. KD at work

Don't know much about Mast.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Yesterday @ 6:51 PM ET
Hawks and Bruins made a trade Chi receives Ryan Mast and 2025 7th round pick. Bos receives Victor Soderstrom. KD at work

Don't know much about Mast.

- BGKarras

Read a scouting report about Mast, huge 6’5 220, excellent skater, strong defensively, moves the puck out of his zone well, not much offensive upside and he’s not very physical.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Yesterday @ 6:57 PM ET
Read a scouting report about Mast, huge 6’5 220, excellent skater, strong defensively, moves the puck out of his zone well, not much offensive upside and he’s not very physical.
- paulr

Thanks Paul.... seems like reclamation project hopefully a change of scenery helps that's a big boy there.
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