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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Tuesday @ 8:17 PM ET
Apparently Dallas is looking for a top six forward in return.
- paulr


Maybe they'll trade the Avs for Necas?
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Tuesday @ 8:42 PM ET
Maybe they'll trade the Avs for Necas?
- BetweenTheDots

I’d keep Robertson.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Tuesday @ 8:57 PM ET
I’d keep Robertson.
- paulr


I would too. The whole explanation for trading Robertson was that they needed the cap space. they've got about $5M and need to sign five players. If they want a top six in return they're going to need someone either unproven or signed to a sweet deal, in any case, they'll have to pay through the nose.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Tuesday @ 9:15 PM ET
If both firsts this year and Reichel would do it, I'll draw up the papers myself and pick up Robertson from the airport.
- Chunk

This is sarcasm right
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Tuesday @ 9:25 PM ET
Off topic anyone know how to post a trade on puckpedia.com puckgm
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Tuesday @ 9:59 PM ET
This is sarcasm right
- oldduffman


Not in the slightest. Why? It's a weak draft, Reichel is just a guy, and Robertson has proven to be a consistent performer in the NHL right now, not in 3 years.

Enough with the "they should be good in a few years". They can get better now. They need to add a bunch of salary just to get to the floor, and they are already flush with prospects and picks (and have two firsts next year).

I'm done with hoping 10 more prospects pan out. Hope is not a strategy.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Tuesday @ 10:02 PM ET
Not in the slightest. Why? It's a weak draft, Reichel is just a guy, and Robertson has proven to be a consistent performer in the NHL right now, not in 3 years.

Enough with the "they should be good in a few years". They can get better now. They need to add a bunch of salary just to get to the floor, and they are already flush with prospects and picks (and have two firsts next year).

I'm done with hoping 10 more prospects pan out. Hope is not a strategy.

- Chunk

Oh I know someone who’d disagree.
bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Woodridge, IL
Joined: 07.02.2016

Tuesday @ 10:10 PM ET
For the Toronto pick I’d love to see KD try to do what he can to get Malcolm Spence. A big, fast, skilled, nasty winger who loves to get in the faces of opponents and can play a skill game. The best thing is he’s disciplined and knows when to be nasty and when to play.
- paulr

I saw a mock draft, it might have been SI, that had the Hawks taking Spence at #25
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Tuesday @ 10:19 PM ET
Oh I know someone who’d disagree.
- paulr


I know a few, but I'm not entirely wrong here, so I'm going to hang onto my convictions until someone provides a reasonable counter proposal.

Ignorant confidence!
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Tuesday @ 10:19 PM ET
Not in the slightest. Why? It's a weak draft, Reichel is just a guy, and Robertson has proven to be a consistent performer in the NHL right now, not in 3 years.

Enough with the "they should be good in a few years". They can get better now. They need to add a bunch of salary just to get to the floor, and they are already flush with prospects and picks (and have two firsts next year).

I'm done with hoping 10 more prospects pan out. Hope is not a strategy.

- Chunk


Yup! Go and get someone. I hate comparisons to the Cup teams etc..but everyone memtions that the Hocks didn't get Hossa/Soupy until they were a better team.and started to win.
You know how they got better? Traded for Havlat. Traded for Sharp etc...they don't need to add 4 top 6 players,but try and trade for a guy that is a dude or could be a dude.

And these terrible tweets and videos and reports: Hocks tried to trade for Demidov.
Hocks tried to trade for the #1 pick last year. Hocks are looking to move up from #3 this year. I've had enough of that too.

Servalli tweeting that Ana and NYR are talking Kreider
Revco38
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wherever I leave my hat
Joined: 07.26.2006

Tuesday @ 10:21 PM ET
I saw a mock draft, it might have been SI, that had the Hawks taking Spence at #25
- bjphawkfan



Athletic where Pronman, Bultman and Wheeler are drafting.

https://www.nytimes.com/a...ck-draft-2025-round-1-gm/
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Tuesday @ 10:30 PM ET
Athletic where Pronman, Bultman and Wheeler are drafting.

https://www.nytimes.com/a...ck-draft-2025-round-1-gm/

- Revco38

I don’t have a subscription who do they have Chicago choosing?
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Tuesday @ 10:47 PM ET
Not in the slightest. Why? It's a weak draft, Reichel is just a guy, and Robertson has proven to be a consistent performer in the NHL right now, not in 3 years.

Enough with the "they should be good in a few years". They can get better now. They need to add a bunch of salary just to get to the floor, and they are already flush with prospects and picks (and have two firsts next year).

I'm done with hoping 10 more prospects pan out. Hope is not a strategy.

- Chunk


Hope is a dangerous thing Andy ,but Red came around . Well you might be on to something ,did a bit deeper dive on Mr. Robertson Numbers . I didn't not like his playoffs , this year . Overall his numbers are very good .Is that environment or him driving the play .He seemed to be losing playing time down the stretch , a good team seeing something they don't like . i don't no but I am not comfortable giving up a top 3 to a team like Dallas .Maybe the later 1st pick this year and next, and keep Reichel ,
beggars cant be choosers
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Tuesday @ 10:48 PM ET
Yup! Go and get someone. I hate comparisons to the Cup teams etc..but everyone memtions that the Hocks didn't get Hossa/Soupy until they were a better team.and started to win.
You know how they got better? Traded for Havlat. Traded for Sharp etc...they don't need to add 4 top 6 players,but try and trade for a guy that is a dude or could be a dude.

And these terrible tweets and videos and reports: Hocks tried to trade for Demidov.
Hocks tried to trade for the #1 pick last year. Hocks are looking to move up from #3 this year. I've had enough of that too.

Servalli tweeting that Ana and NYR are talking Kreider

- captainserious


The 2006-10 Hawk team did the build the opposite of how it’s going now. They had a boatload of “support” players, Buff, Bolland, Brouwer, Fraser and defensemen Seabrook, Keith and Hjalmarsson then they made a few trades at the same time as they drafted Toews and Kane. Basically the team was just developing.

This time they drafted the star player the beginning of a defence and are adding the depth players. I think trading for an established NHL player is tough because they really have no trade chips, unless they trade with a team looking at re-tooling or re-building. Signing the right UFA at a reasonable contract and term can be done but it’s unlikely they get a star player. Maybe an RFA signing?

You’re right, the Hawks need one or two established NHL players. Hopefully they can get it done but I don’t think trading the number three pick this year is a great idea unless they’re getting a younger player who’s proven he is a solid NHL player.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Tuesday @ 10:55 PM ET
The 2006-10 Hawk team did the build the opposite of how it’s going now. They had a boatload of “support” players, Buff, Bolland, Brouwer, Fraser and defensemen Seabrook, Keith and Hjalmarsson then they made a few trades at the same time as they drafted Toews and Kane. Basically the team was just developing.

This time they drafted the star player the beginning of a defence and are adding the depth players. I think trading for an established NHL player is tough because they really have no trade chips, unless they trade with a team looking at re-tooling or re-building. Signing the right UFA at a reasonable contract and term can be done but it’s unlikely they get a star player. Maybe an RFA signing?

You’re right, the Hawks need one or two established NHL players. Hopefully they can get it done but I don’t think trading the number three pick this year is a great idea unless they’re getting a younger player who’s proven he is a solid NHL player.

- paulr


I liked how the team looked toward end of season. I agree don’t go trading high picks or top prospects yet. I want to see how they look next year.

Also want to see Bedard take that next step. Which I think he will.

Hawks have an absolute stud in Rinzel. Think Nazar comes out blazing next year.

Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Tuesday @ 10:56 PM ET
I don’t have a subscription who do they have Chicago choosing?
- paulr


Frondell and Prokhorov, a 6'5" 209 lb Russian RW (or 6'6"/218 lbs if going by Elite Prospects), scored 20 goals in 43 games last year in the MHL.

Daniil Prokhorov plays the game like he’s trying to leave a mark — literally. There is no player as violent and eager to throw huge hits. He sprints at opponents, seeing red the whole time, and looks to level them. His offence comes from fighting, battling off defenders behind the net to work his way around to the netfront.

He's #72 and this video does not make him look all that good:

https://www.bing.com/vide...BE3F6AB86A16&&FORM=VRDGAR

Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Tuesday @ 11:01 PM ET
Hope is a dangerous thing Andy ,but Red came around . Well you might be on to something ,did a bit deeper dive on Mr. Robertson Numbers . I didn't not like his playoffs , this year . Overall his numbers are very good .Is that environment or him driving the play .He seemed to be losing playing time down the stretch , a good team seeing something they don't like . i don't no but I am not comfortable giving up a top 3 to a team like Dallas .Maybe the later 1st pick this year and next, and keep Reichel ,
beggars cant be choosers

- oldduffman


I'm guessing this had a lot to do with it:

https://www.nhl.com/news/...r-game-1-against-colorado.

Also, he was one of the few productive Stars against EDM.

I get you don't want to really give a division rival that high of a pick, but this draft class is weaker and it's not like they don't already have a stocked pipeline.

Out of morbid curiosity, why do you want to keep Reichel around?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Tuesday @ 11:10 PM ET
I liked how the team looked toward end of season. I agree don’t go trading high picks or top prospects yet. I want to see how they look next year.

Also want to see Bedard take that next step. Which I think he will.

Hawks have an absolute stud in Rinzel. Think Nazar comes out blazing next year.

- bhawks2241


It's for sure exciting watching all the young guys on the ice, but you need some NHL players added. The 11 F they have signed right now are.

Bert
Bedard
TT
Foligno
D!ckinson
Mikheyev
Veleno
Reichel
Nazar
Slaggert
Dach

If they let Donato go, and don't acquire anyone else, you backfill with two of Greene, Moore, Savoie, Lardis and/or possibly the #3 this year.

As much as I like the kids that screams a 31st finish (PITT is going to have the worst record next year).
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Tuesday @ 11:13 PM ET
I'm guessing this had a lot to do with it:

https://www.nhl.com/news/...r-game-1-against-colorado.

Also, he was one of the few productive Stars against EDM.

I get you don't want to really give a division rival that high of a pick, but this draft class is weaker and it's not like they don't already have a stocked pipeline.

Out of morbid curiosity, why do you want to keep Reichel around?

- Chunk

Reichel ,I don't know ,can just see him going to the Stars and becoming one . Definitely not a hard NO ,just hanging onto them top 3 picks . Ya injurie had something to do with his playoffs .
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Tuesday @ 11:14 PM ET
The 2006-10 Hawk team did the build the opposite of how it’s going now. They had a boatload of “support” players, Buff, Bolland, Brouwer, Fraser and defensemen Seabrook, Keith and Hjalmarsson then they made a few trades at the same time as they drafted Toews and Kane. Basically the team was just developing.

This time they drafted the star player the beginning of a defence and are adding the depth players. I think trading for an established NHL player is tough because they really have no trade chips, unless they trade with a team looking at re-tooling or re-building. Signing the right UFA at a reasonable contract and term can be done but it’s unlikely they get a star player. Maybe an RFA signing?

You’re right, the Hawks need one or two established NHL players. Hopefully they can get it done but I don’t think trading the number three pick this year is a great idea unless they’re getting a younger player who’s proven he is a solid NHL player.

- paulr


There are likely going to be a lot of teams retooling and/or moving players this year. 9 new head coaches. Lou out in NYI, Blake replaced in LA, VAN is a mess, NSH grossly disappointed last year, NYR are going to be moving parts, PITT is melting down, BOS has like 6 guys under contract. OTT has been rumored to be looking to change things. BUF is still BUF, DAL has no space, TOR is going to be making changes.

So many chances to do cool stuff. Don't be a killjoy.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Tuesday @ 11:16 PM ET
Reichel ,I don't know ,can just see him going to the Stars and becoming one . Definitely not a hard NO ,just hanging onto them top 3 picks . Ya injurie had something to do with his playoffs .
- oldduffman


He'll become one.. with nature.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Tuesday @ 11:28 PM ET
There are likely going to be a lot of teams retooling and/or moving players this year. 9 new head coaches. Lou out in NYI, Blake replaced in LA, VAN is a mess, NSH grossly disappointed last year, NYR are going to be moving parts, PITT is melting down, BOS has like 6 guys under contract. OTT has been rumored to be looking to change things. BUF is still BUF, DAL has no space, TOR is going to be making changes.

So many chances to do cool stuff. Don't be a killjoy.

- Chunk


Wasn’t trying to be. I was just pointing out the challenges.

I wouldn’t mind seeing KD try to acquire Peterka and Byram. I think Byram takes the place of a Murphy, an older player who’s proven he knows the ropes. Plus he’s a pretty strong offensive defender. Peterka may look good on Bedard’s wing. But what does KD have to offer? Or dangle one or two prospects?

Davidson has to look at this short and long term. Marner will want to be paid amongst the top players, with a seven year contract with a full No move clause. Then factor in his inability to raise his game when it matters. Bennett will want a similar contract. I’m sure both will want to sign with a contender.

Robertson is an option but I’m sure it will cost a top prospect plus. Zegras is a guy who may be acquired for less because his play isn’t improving. But I’m sure he’ll still cost a Lardis or Boisvert for example.

BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Tuesday @ 11:55 PM ET
Not in the slightest. Why? It's a weak draft, Reichel is just a guy, and Robertson has proven to be a consistent performer in the NHL right now, not in 3 years.

Enough with the "they should be good in a few years". They can get better now. They need to add a bunch of salary just to get to the floor, and they are already flush with prospects and picks (and have two firsts next year).

I'm done with hoping 10 more prospects pan out. Hope is not a strategy.

- Chunk


You're right hope isn't a strategy, but being desperate isn't either.

Again they have the best and most 18, 19, 20 and soon to be 21 year olds in their system.

Are you the kind of guy who starts hanging the pictures on the wall before the paint dries? Cause that's what you're doing if you give up the 3rd OA pick.

Did you see that little thing posted by tnt of the top 4 picks playing in this year's SC final? Ekblad, Reinhart, Draisaitl and Bennett?

Calgary and Buffalo lost patience with 2 of those players
Revco38
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wherever I leave my hat
Joined: 07.26.2006

Wednesday @ 3:08 AM ET
I don’t have a subscription who do they have Chicago choosing?
- paulr



Desnoyers and Spence
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

Wednesday @ 3:18 AM ET
More profiles:

Draft Prospect Profile:
LIAM KILFOIL - C
Height: 5-11
Weight: 179
DOB: 03-21-07 Age: 18

2024-25 HALIFAX QMJHL 62-21-25-46 (PO: 11-3-2-5) PPG: 0.74 PIM: 14
2025-26 HALIFAX QMJHL

Kilfoil showed leadership and offensive skills on a Halifax team that only won at a .414 pace for the regular season, and barely made the playoffs. Was the top scorer for the team and played a balanced game, including special teams. Saw him in a couple of games and he was active and around the puck and was able to anticipate the play. Will need to add some strength to play well at higher levels. Mid-round rating, probably good value in the 4trh round or so.

Central Scouting Final Ranking: 90 (NA)
Wiz: 117

Elite Prospects: https://www.eliteprospect...layer/689883/liam-kilfoil

Neutral Zone: neutralzone.com/nhl-scouting-reports/qmjhl-liam-kilfoil/
"Liam Kilfoil is a competitive, versatile left-shot forward (5’11”, 180 lbs) capable of playing both center and wing, who served as an Assistant Captain for the Halifax Mooseheads in the QMJHL. Despite being slightly undersized by NHL standards, Kilfoil consistently played a major role for Halifax, averaging a significant 21:13 TOI per game, including heavy responsibilities on special teams—3:24 per game on the power play and 2:02 on the penalty kill. He led Halifax offensively with 21 goals and 46 points in 62 games, highlighting his offensive reliability on a struggling team.

Kilfoil’s key statistical strengths include his high rate of takeaways (4.1/game), reflecting strong defensive instincts and puck awareness. He consistently generates scoring chances (1.73/game) and converts them efficiently (16%). However, his defensive record (-24), limited face-off effectiveness (41%), below-average puck battle success (48%), and modest passing accuracy (84%) indicate clear areas that must improve for a chance at success at higher levels."


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