Looking at his pictures on internet, I think you are right. He is here quite a bit.
- stevefrmglencoe

Guess not, Chunk..... How bout you Steve, is Belfry still Kaner's skills coach?

You watching the Memorial Cup, Steve? If so any thoughts, especially on Desnoyers? Kid has had 2 eye catching games in a row and had a goal and a primary assist v London and was active.

London v Medicine Hat for all the marbles tomorrow night.

Guess not, Chunk..... How bout you Steve, is Belfry still Kaner's skills coach?

You watching the Memorial Cup, Steve? If so any thoughts, especially on Desnoyers? Kid has had 2 eye catching games in a row and had a goal and a primary assist v London and was active.

London v Medicine Hat for all the marbles tomorrow night.
- Mr Ricochet

Two things can be true at the same time.


They've both worked with Kane. Keane seems to have been more team related, where Belfry is more of a private coach from what I've read.

FYI - if you haven't already heard, Desnoyers has been playing through an injury for a little while.

If Bedard comes back with only 1 improvement gaining a step in burst/quickness would help him the most IMO. Simply said the kid can't really create his own shot. Extra burst would fix that and open options for the kid.

If I were greedy and asked for 2 improvements the second would be work on possession. Kid doesn't skate into 3-4 defenders as often as his rookie season but the kid still turns over tons and tons of pucks and he's your forward leader in TOI. .... Can't win like that and I think Bedard knows that.

Don't know when it will happen, and to what degree, but I look forward to the switch flipping for Bedard. Intelligent offseason work, not shooting 475 pucks a day, gets the kid closer to flipping that switch..
- Mr Ricochet

You also can't ignore the fact that Blashill seems intent on making guys play the game a different way (the "right" way).

You also can't ignore the fact that Blashill seems intent on making guys play the game a different way (the "right" way).
- Chunk

There’s only one way to play, and that’s the right way. No cheating, no short cuts, no waiting for a pass. Bedard drove me insane last season with his lazy hooking penalties. Obviously there were other culprits but the future guys are the guys I’m concerned with.

There’s only one way to play, and that’s the right way. No cheating, no short cuts, no waiting for a pass. Bedard drove me insane last season with his lazy hooking penalties. Obviously there were other culprits but the future guys are the guys I’m concerned with.
- paulr

There’s only one way they SHOULD play. I think we’ve seen from several teams that there are different ways to play.

Everything I’ve listened to from Blashill says that he won’t tolerate cheating the play.

Two things can be true at the same time.


They've both worked with Kane. Keane seems to have been more team related, where Belfry is more of a private coach from what I've read.

FYI - if you haven't already heard, Desnoyers has been playing through an injury for a little while.
- Chunk

Thanks, Chunk. I heard, not read, that you never know who's hurt and that Desnoyers may be dinged........ I watched him closely his last 2 games and he was physically engaged, skating with purpose and his motor was high. .. If he's injured and is playing this way that's impressive. .......

I have never heard the name Keane as a skills coach, not that I follow such things. ... Love hearing Kane was in town in late May and working on his game with a coach. He turned into a hell of a pro besidees being an elite player.

There’s only one way to play, and that’s the right way. No cheating, no short cuts, no waiting for a pass. Bedard drove me insane last season with his lazy hooking penalties. Obviously there were other culprits but the future guys are the guys I’m concerned with.
- paulr

Bedard is damn near an enigma.... I was thinking about this. You read The Daily Racing Form for 30 yrs, a thousand races and it computes pretty much automatically. You delineate what class a horse is very quickly and then you read Holy Bull or Secretariate's lifetime page and it's immediately unlike anything you've ever seen. Truly different animals that go damn near undefeated with Beyer figures that boggle your mind.

Go to Bedard's EP page. Looking at EP for 20 yrs, same thing. You've seen a thousand pages and the class of the athlete computes quickly. Then you see Bedard's page and it's similar to Holy Bull or Secretariate. .....

His numbers going back to 13-14 yrs old are freakish and the majority of the time he's playing up a yr or two and still destroying the stats page. Every yr.

A rare blueblood. But the kid came flawed and his numbers were so crazy those flaws across the whole hockey universe were ignored. Those insane numbers over yrs had people calling him generational pretty much every step of the way as we all ignored his flaws that weren't exploited in jrs like they are totally in the Bigs. To the point he was probably the worst defensive player we've ever seen.

Kid is a tough little bastard. I was really happy to see the kid try and play a complete game while struggling offensively but he stuck to it. ... The kid went home last yr and whatever/whoever got to him he came back and the very first preseason shift he was battling at his own endwall. The yr before he would be 5 ft in the neutral zone waiting for someone to get the puck to him. .... That screamed out to me and he played that way thru the whole season and with his offensive draughts you know damn well he was frustrated but he stuck to the 2 way game he was trying to learn at the NHL level..

He has a really long way to go to be a hockey player but IMO he knows that. To the point he's probably not gonna reach his ceiling until he's 25, whatever that is and how much he wants it.

He improved his faceoffs in season and last yr we saw many shifts where he could be seen at both endwalls in the same shift. Never saw that his rookie season. We saw him come back from a busted jaw and in his first game back attacked the middle from the sidewall in traffic ... He knows and has shown he'll work to improve and develop into some kind of hockey player.

And he has an EP page like few we've ever seen.

Bedard is damn near an enigma.... I was thinking about this. You read The Daily Racing Form for 30 yrs, a thousand races and it computes pretty much automatically. You delineate what class a horse is very quickly and then you read Holy Bull or Secretariate's lifetime page and it's immediately unlike anything you've ever seen. Truly different animals that go damn near undefeated with Beyer figures that boggle your mind.

Go to Bedard's EP page. Looking at EP for 20 yrs, same thing. You've seen a thousand pages and the class of the athlete computes quickly. Then you see Bedard's page and it's similar to Holy Bull or Secretariate. .....

His numbers going back to 13-14 yrs old are freakish and the majority of the time he's playing up a yr or two and still destroying the stats page. Every yr.

A rare blueblood. But the kid came flawed and his numbers were so crazy those flaws across the whole hockey universe were ignored. Those insane numbers over yrs had people calling him generational pretty much every step of the way as we all ignored his flaws that weren't exploited in jrs like they are totally in the Bigs. To the point he was probably the worst defensive player we've ever seen.

Kid is a tough little bastard. I was really happy to see the kid try and play a complete game while struggling offensively but he stuck to it. ... The kid went home last yr and whatever/whoever got to him he came back and the very first preseason shift he was battling at his own endwall. The yr before he would be 5 ft in the neutral zone waiting for someone to get the puck to him. .... That screamed out to me and he played that way thru the whole season and with his offensive draughts you know damn well he was frustrated but he stuck to the 2 way game he was trying to learn at the NHL level..

He has a really long way to go to be a hockey player but IMO he knows that. To the point he's probably not gonna reach his ceiling until he's 25, whatever that is and how much he wants it.

He improved his faceoffs in season and last yr we saw many shifts where he could be seen at both endwalls in the same shift. Never saw that his rookie season. We saw him come back from a busted jaw and in his first game back attacked the middle from the sidewall in traffic ... He knows and has shown he'll work to improve and develop into some kind of hockey player.

And he has an EP page like few we've ever seen.
- Mr Ricochet

He surely has flaws as a teenager playing in the best league in the world.

My personal opinion is i see a kid who wants to be the best in the world and is willing to push himself and his body to be that person.

To me he's got captain material written all over him. I for one saw flaws in Toews and Kanes games as teenagers but the Blackhawks were the deepest team in the NHL once they signed Hossa to his contract.

Imagine if Bedard was drafted then, we wouldn't be discussing his flaws and he easily would be scoring near 100 points a season.

Supposedly “the Carolina pick in the 29th overall slot has been dealt for two 2025 second round picks to beannounced at the draft.”
Nashville Preds have TWO second
San Jose has two premium 2nds in #33 & 53.
The Chicago Blackhawks have TWO seconds, and the highest one of the teams that have multiple 2nds at #34 (and #62 Dallas)
Nashville Preds have TWO second at #35 & #55, probably more valuable that the Hawks two regardless of the one slot higher @ 34/35.
Montreal’s TWO slot#s 41 & #49.
Boston with TWO late 2nds.
Seattle has TWO also.
New Jersey has TWO late seconds.
Philadelphia has FOUR seconds,

This what a wild rumor does to me,deciding it was Kyle that traded into Carolina slot #39.
If the Hawks pull in front of three non-playoff teams who are going to be looking the same type promising talent that the Hawks are, only the trade moves the up FIVE Slots and better control the draft board.

Guess not, Chunk..... How bout you Steve, is Belfry still Kaner's skills coach?

You watching the Memorial Cup, Steve? If so any thoughts, especially on Desnoyers? Kid has had 2 eye catching games in a row and had a goal and a primary assist v London and was active..
- Mr Ricochet

I think this guy disagrees on Caleb Desnoyer's memorable Memorial Cup:

One of Moncton’s most interesting storylines is that star forward Caleb Desnoyers, who led the team in scoring in the regular season and playoffs, hasn’t found the scoresheet in six games. That dates back to the final three games of the QMJHL final. With no report of injury, there is concern because he just hasn’t quite been himself. A semifinal against a stacked London team would be a great time to get back on the scoreboard.

He surely has flaws as a teenager playing in the best league in the world.

My personal opinion is i see a kid who wants to be the best in the world and is willing to push himself and his body to be that person.

To me he's got captain material written all over him. I for one saw flaws in Toews and Kanes games as teenagers but the Blackhawks were the deepest team in the NHL once they signed Hossa to his contract.

Imagine if Bedard was drafted then, we wouldn't be discussing his flaws and he easily would be scoring near 100 points a season.
- BetweenTheDots

I would like to see Bedard on the LW with a true #1C that is right handed and has some speed and size with a decent RW filling out the line. Posters think it is being critical thinking Bedard should play on the wing. It worked out ok for Kaner.

I would like to see Bedard on the LW with a true #1C that is right handed and has some speed and size with a decent RW filling out the line. Posters think it is being critical thinking Bedard should play on the wing. It worked out ok for Kaner.
- Ztra

Was Kane ever a center in London or the NTDP? Legit asking. If not that would be the difference.

Supposedly “the Carolina pick in the 29th overall slot has been dealt for two 2025 second round picks to beannounced at the draft.”
Nashville Preds have TWO second
San Jose has two premium 2nds in #33 & 53.
The Chicago Blackhawks have TWO seconds, and the highest one of the teams that have multiple 2nds at #34 (and #62 Dallas)
Nashville Preds have TWO second at #35 & #55, probably more valuable that the Hawks two regardless of the one slot higher @ 34/35.
Montreal’s TWO slot#s 41 & #49.
Boston with TWO late 2nds.
Seattle has TWO also.
New Jersey has TWO late seconds.
Philadelphia has FOUR seconds,

This what a wild rumor does to me,deciding it was Kyle that traded into Carolina slot #39.
If the Hawks pull in front of three non-playoff teams who are going to be looking the same type promising talent that the Hawks are, only the trade moves the up FIVE Slots and better control the draft board.
- wiz1901

KD rarely disappoints on draft day moves, so I guess this is possible.

One things I noticed on Puckpedia is they give the "point value" for each team's draft picks. Carolina's 1st round pick is worth 11.93 points and the Hawks' two 2nds are worth a total of 12.87 points so Carolina gets more value in this trade scenario.

I didn't work out the point value for other teams with multiple seconds, but if someone here is ambitious enough, maybe they can add up the numbers.

Go to Puckpedia, select the team from the team drop down menu along the top banner, select "draft picks" under the team logo, then scroll down to see the pick value and how they were acquired.

I would like to see Bedard on the LW with a true #1C that is right handed and has some speed and size with a decent RW filling out the line. Posters think it is being critical thinking Bedard should play on the wing. It worked out ok for Kaner.
- Ztra

I don't know where Bedard should play but all i know is he needs to play.
As the talent begins to fill in around him the better his line will perform. As with any pro.

Bedard is damn near an enigma.... I was thinking about this. You read The Daily Racing Form for 30 yrs, a thousand races and it computes pretty much automatically. You delineate what class a horse is very quickly and then you read Holy Bull or Secretariate's lifetime page and it's immediately unlike anything you've ever seen. Truly different animals that go damn near undefeated with Beyer figures that boggle your mind.

Go to Bedard's EP page. Looking at EP for 20 yrs, same thing. You've seen a thousand pages and the class of the athlete computes quickly. Then you see Bedard's page and it's similar to Holy Bull or Secretariate. .....

His numbers going back to 13-14 yrs old are freakish and the majority of the time he's playing up a yr or two and still destroying the stats page. Every yr.

A rare blueblood. But the kid came flawed and his numbers were so crazy those flaws across the whole hockey universe were ignored. Those insane numbers over yrs had people calling him generational pretty much every step of the way as we all ignored his flaws that weren't exploited in jrs like they are totally in the Bigs. To the point he was probably the worst defensive player we've ever seen.

Kid is a tough little bastard. I was really happy to see the kid try and play a complete game while struggling offensively but he stuck to it. ... The kid went home last yr and whatever/whoever got to him he came back and the very first preseason shift he was battling at his own endwall. The yr before he would be 5 ft in the neutral zone waiting for someone to get the puck to him. .... That screamed out to me and he played that way thru the whole season and with his offensive draughts you know damn well he was frustrated but he stuck to the 2 way game he was trying to learn at the NHL level..

He has a really long way to go to be a hockey player but IMO he knows that. To the point he's probably not gonna reach his ceiling until he's 25, whatever that is and how much he wants it.

He improved his faceoffs in season and last yr we saw many shifts where he could be seen at both endwalls in the same shift. Never saw that his rookie season. We saw him come back from a busted jaw and in his first game back attacked the middle from the sidewall in traffic ... He knows and has shown he'll work to improve and develop into some kind of hockey player.

And he has an EP page like few we've ever seen.
- Mr Ricochet

Good post Rico. The kid improved his defense and also improved at the dot, and now he wants to improve his skating, and from what I’ve seen and how much he’s improved those other facets of his game, I have no doubts that his skating/speed will also improve. The kid has taken a lot of heat for some reason, yet he’s put up over 60 points a season as a teenager, that’s impressive. I still think that if Teravainen was on his line, the kid would finally break that 30 goal mark.

KD rarely disappoints on draft day moves, so I guess this is possible.

One things I noticed on Puckpedia is they give the "point value" for each team's draft picks. Carolina's 1st round pick is worth 11.93 points and the Hawks' two 2nds are worth a total of 12.87 points so Carolina gets more value in this trade scenario.

I didn't work out the point value for other teams with multiple seconds, but if someone here is ambitious enough, maybe they can add up the numbers.

Go to Puckpedia, select the team from the team drop down menu along the top banner, select "draft picks" under the team logo, then scroll down to see the pick value and how they were acquired.
- boilermaker100

Bored on a rainy Sunday morning.
Carolina’s 1st 11.93
Boston 8.29
Chicago 12.85
Montreal 12.23
Nashville 13.30
NJ 8.16
Philly 12.72
SJ 14.43
Seattle 11.91

I've been perusing the rumor sites and found these interesting tidbits.

1. The Marco Rossi camp is supposedly asking for 7 x 7M and the Wild aren't interested in paying that. He was also demoted to 4th line center in their recent playoff round. Not saying the Hawks should be in on him, but looks like he'll be available.

2. Dallas with 5M in cap space and only 8 forwards signed. Benn, Duchesne and Granlund are free agents. Benn wants to stay and Nils says he'll accommodate him.

From what I read, Dumba may be bought out saving a couple of million in cap space. Mason Marchment, one year left at 4.5M and a 10 team NTC, may be on the market. Even with those moves it will be tough to re-sign everyone.

Also, their young prospect Mavrick Bourque is an RFA. Offer sheet him for 2.3M at the cost of a 3rd round pick? Stars may be in a bind to match that. There's an analytic site out there showing his projected contract at 2 x 1.95M. (Yeah he committed a very careless penalty in game 5 leading to the Oilers 1st goal.)

3. Our friend Connor Murphy appears on likely trade candidates lists for the upcoming season. Seravalli has him 8th on his list. Hopefully he can stay healthy til the TDL. I can see him at RD until then allowing Lev and/or Rinzel to play at Rockford for a while if they don't make the team out of camp. Would someone be willing to offer a 1st for a veteran RD on an expiring contract? Again, his health will be a big factor.

Bored on a rainy Sunday morning.
Carolina’s 1st 11.93
Boston 8.29
Chicago 12.85
Montreal 12.23
Nashville 13.30
NJ 8.16
Philly 12.72
SJ 14.43
Seattle 11.91
- Angotti

Way to go, Lou.

Way to go, Lou.

- boilermaker100

You add a lot of good information to this site, that’s the least I could do. Heading north this week, hope you guys have some warm weather up there for us, I’m now a wuss when it’s below 60°.

I've been perusing the rumor sites and found these interesting tidbits.

1. The Marco Rossi camp is supposedly asking for 7 x 7M and the Wild aren't interested in paying that. He was also demoted to 4th line center in their recent playoff round. Not saying the Hawks should be in on him, but looks like he'll be available.

2. Dallas with 5M in cap space and only 8 forwards signed. Benn, Duchesne and Granlund are free agents. Benn wants to stay and Nils says he'll accommodate him.

From what I read, Dumba may be bought out saving a couple of million in cap space. Mason Marchment, one year left at 4.5M and a 10 team NTC, may be on the market. Even with those moves it will be tough to re-sign everyone.

Also, their young prospect Mavrick Bourque is an RFA. Offer sheet him for 2.3M at the cost of a 3rd round pick? Stars may be in a bind to match that. There's an analytic site out there showing his projected contract at 2 x 1.95M. (Yeah he committed a very careless penalty in game 5 leading to the Oilers 1st goal.)

3. Our friend Connor Murphy appears on likely trade candidates lists for the upcoming season. Seravalli has him 8th on his list. Hopefully he can stay healthy til the TDL. I can see him at RD until then allowing Lev and/or Rinzel to play at Rockford for a while if they don't make the team out of camp. Would someone be willing to offer a 1st for a veteran RD on an expiring contract? Again, his health will be a big factor.
- boilermaker100

Don't see a first for Murphy in our future. 3rd to 4th more likely.

Don't see a first for Murphy in our future. 3rd to 4th more likely.
- rpeters01

They’ll get at least a 2nd, RD’s with size have some value. TBH, I’d rather get a young forward back, another dart that could surprise, not necessarily a top prospect. If they can’t get more than a 3rd for him, I’d resign him to a one or two year contract, can’t have all rookies on the right side, plus it reduces Arties and Rinzel’s TOI while they gain experience. Just my 2 cents.

You add a lot of good information to this site, that’s the least I could do. Heading north this week, hope you guys have some warm weather up there for us, I’m now a wuss when it’s below 60°.
- Angotti

Mid 80's Monday and Tuesday. High 60's and 70's for the rest of the week.

In case you missed it, Jarmo Kekalainen, former Columbus GM, hired as senior advisor to Kevin Adams in Buffalo. Adams probably will be spending a lot of time looking over his shoulder at the GM in waiting. I'm already looking forward to some Jarmo-Stan Bowman trades.

Guess not, Chunk..... How bout you Steve, is Belfry still Kaner's skills coach?

You watching the Memorial Cup, Steve? If so any thoughts, especially on Desnoyers? Kid has had 2 eye catching games in a row and had a goal and a primary assist v London and was active.

London v Medicine Hat for all the marbles tomorrow night.
- Mr Ricochet

I don't know who is Kane's skills coach. Would not surprise me if he is working with multiple guys at different times on different aspects of his game. I think it was Keane at the UC on Thursday.

I will repeat the story of when Blackwell was rehabbing during his season here, his rehab skates mimicked a penalty killer covering the points, stealing the puck and going in on a breakaway. Over and over. It was exhausting watching him. He would go to the bench between reps, catch his breath and look at his phone. I always thought that was odd.

The only 2 first round picks I have seen play live are Misa in Saginaw and Ryker Lee. Misa reminded me of Tavares. My kid thinks he is faster and better than that. We will see. I've watched Lee since he was a little kid. He was at Watts Ice Center in Glencoe working on his game all the time till this past season in the USHL. His mom used to drop him off early and pick him up late. He was tiny but has grown. He used to have my kid feed him one timers. He told me about playing at Shattuck. He wanted to make USA Development didn't make it but killed it in USHL Madison. Daily Faceoff mentioned him as sleeper of the 1st round.

Hagens looked great at WJC. Sounds like there are 5 or 6 top guys. I hope whoever they take goes right back to school or Juniors for another year. I don't want them to rush anyone and I don't want a year of team control burned again.

Heard that it is common knowledge among NHLers that the "victim" of Perry when he was terminated is Caley Chelios.

Also heard that the reason the staff at 5/3rd is turning over and the repairs have slowed is that the Hawks are on an austerity program. No raises, no bonuses, no new hires. The lack of TV revenue and the decline in season ticket sales is impacting the team. I thought it was strange when they sold 535 Cornelia and 535 Stafford Place. What billionaire sells fully paid-off cash-flowing apartments?

I don't know who is Kane's skills coach. Would not surprise me if he is working with multiple guys at different times on different aspects of his game. I think it was Keane at the UC on Thursday.

I will repeat the story of when Blackwell was rehabbing during his season here, his rehab skates mimicked a penalty killer covering the points, stealing the puck and going in on a breakaway. Over and over. It was exhausting watching him. He would go to the bench between reps, catch his breath and look at his phone. I always thought that was odd.

The only 2 first round picks I have seen play live are Misa in Saginaw and Ryker Lee. Misa reminded me of Tavares. My kid thinks he is faster and better than that. We will see. I've watched Lee since he was a little kid. He was at Watts Ice Center in Glencoe working on his game all the time till this past season in the USHL. His mom used to drop him off early and pick him up late. He was tiny but has grown. He used to have my kid feed him one timers. He told me about playing at Shattuck. He wanted to make USA Development didn't make it but killed it in USHL Madison. Daily Faceoff mentioned him as sleeper of the 1st round.

Hagens looked great at WJC. Sounds like there are 5 or 6 top guys. I hope whoever they take goes right back to school or Juniors for another year. I don't want them to rush anyone and I don't want a year of team control burned again.

Heard that it is common knowledge among NHLers that the "victim" of Perry when he was terminated is Caley Chelios.

Also heard that the reason the staff at 5/3rd is turning over and the repairs have slowed is that the Hawks are on an austerity program. No raises, no bonuses, no new hires. The lack of TV revenue and the decline in season ticket sales is impacting the team. I thought it was strange when they sold 535 Cornelia and 535 Stafford Place. What billionaire sells fully paid-off cash-flowing apartments?
- stevefrmglencoe

Quote from Bamford's column today:

"The Blackhawks are going to share more information and some interior images of the expansion of Fifth Third Arena on Tuesday."